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Cut ALL those positions, cut the pensions, etc. this shit is fucking absurd
The woman who was ousted as GC after 3 years has a 4 million dollar pension..she gets 150k a year until she’s 90, she gets 200k a year in govt. expenses after leaving the position, and that 200k continues 6 months after she fucking dies to do whatever she needs in terms of flying people in for her fucking irrelevant funeral.
Blow this shit up.
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Well... I mean... if you want to be North Korea, that shit works fine. Trump was kinda starting to do it with the USA too... North Korea never has to send anyone to anything. But........... they're also getting a lot more jobbed by their politicians than we ever will be, so there's that too.
You're smart enough to understand that foreign relations and envoys are necessary to keeping us relevant on the world stage right?
Do they need to go to expos? With an entourage? Buying $15 glasses of orange juice on tax payers dime?
These people are just scum that have sucked their way into these positions through influence. If you revamped the entire system to get people who actually want to be there as opposed to finding a way into to simply obtain a pension I guarantee you everyone would be better off.
Yet we have people like stolen Valour Harjeet who can be defense minister then just be shuffled into some other cabinet position he knows nothing about because he’s already part of the establishment? This shit is a fucking joke regardless of who is in power
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Aren't the caterers on the govt planes also crazy overcharging though? I see that as a big mis-step too. Peter stealing from Paul.
You can say literally the same thing about management at any private company too... why they steal all the profits and everything else lavish and have these huge golden parachutes when they lay people off and pay shitty salaries to everyone below too right?
It's a human nature problem.
There's the 1 flight they mentioned, I forgot who now, but her and everyone that went with her spent nothing. That's what I would be like if I was in that position... but then how long do you do that when you coworkers aren't and you're like fuck why am I being so cheap when nobody else is. It's a culture problem by people in positions of power.
I even know all my friends who are in sales or travel for work... they max their expenses out any possible way they can, obsess over points collecting and just take advantage at every opportunity, take receipts for lunches or dinners you go on so they can claim it when meeting up even though it's got nothing to do with their work. It's gross.
Imagine sitting around a table with a bunch of high ranking officials from other countries and being like "Sorry, I'll just have the water, We (Canada) can't afford the orange juice"
ahhahaha
Even funnier if the envoy from Somalia was all like "It's ok Canada, I'll cover you"
I realize that, but at the end of the day it’s all us proletariats being ripped off either way by exec culture.
Why does the G7 or summits even happen at all? Really? A climate change meeting that requires everyone to fly to it? Do we not have FaceTime or any number of zoom meetings nowadays?
My buddy is in mining he just spent like a week+ at some Salvador Dali art hotel in Switzerland while we’re all getting gouged left and right for raw materials. Just gets passed on down to the end consumer of their products and blamed on rising costs or supply problems.
Yes, but you can choose not to partake in that. Outside of maybe internet access and groceries you don’t have to be engaged in the profits of private enterprise.
We are forced to be at the mercy of the govt, these people doing these things. There’s no choice.
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The flip side of that is how do you get effective executives in government then if there are no perks when private has tonnes? They’re all just going to go to private sector and you’re left with morons who need to hold up their finger to know which way is left or right.
Nobody is altruistic enough to serve the public just so they can sleep at night knowing they served the public, which is what you’re asking for.
International Cooperation Minister Bev Oda goes to a conference in London.
Does not like the hotel the conference is at.
Spends $665 night to to stay t the Savoy.
Spends $1000 a day for a limo to take her to the conference at the original hotel.
Has to pay a cancellation charge to the original hotel.
Spends $16 for a glass of Orange juice.
Full story: Bev Oda apologizes for swanky hotel stay - Politics - CBC News
nternational Cooperation Minister Bev Oda said sorry Tuesday for charging taxpayers with an expensive hotel stay in London, England last year, but her apology failed to satisfy critics.
"The expenses are unacceptable, should never have been charged to taxpayers," Oda said in the House of Commons in response to a question from interim Liberal leader Bob Rae. "I have repaid the costs associated with [the] changing of hotels and I unreservedly apologize."
Oda's travel expenses caused controversy on Monday when it was revealed that she was originally booked to stay at a hotel where she was attending a conference last June, but had her staff rebook her at the swanky Savoy hotel, where her stay cost her about $665 per night. The total bill for her three-day stay including the room and room service was $1,995. The room charges included an orange juice that cost $16.
Oda also hired a car and driver, at a cost of about $1,000 per day, to bring her to the hotel she was originally supposed to stay at and incurred a cancellation charge for refusing to stay at the Grange St. Paul's hotel.
After the Canadian Press broke the story on Monday, Oda's office said she would personally cover the tab for the difference in cost between the two hotels, the cancellation fee, and the orange juice. In total, she repaid $1,353.81.
"She only did this because she got caught," NDP House leader Nathan Cullen said Tuesday.
Demands for more reimbursement
Opposition MPs are demanding she also reimburse taxpayers for the car rental since it was also associated with her change in hotels. If she had stayed at the original hotel where the conference was, transportation wouldn't have been needed, they say.
Oda didn't answer any further questions in question period. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan said the minister apologized and repaid the costs associated with changing hotels.
Oda's office says she followed all Treasury Board guidelines when she filed the expenses, and in an interview with a local television station yesterday she said she had nothing to be embarrassed about and she suggested her critics were being "extremist."
Oda did not provide an answer when asked in the interview why she insisted on staying at the Savoy instead of the same hotel as the conference.
Liberal MP Scott Andrews, however, vocalized a theory: "This is about her not being able to get a smoking room on site, " he said.
The Grange St. Paul's is now a non-smoking hotel but last summer it was possible to book a smoking room. The Savoy also has smoking rooms available.
CBC News asked Oda's office again Tuesday for an explanation for the hotel change and was told Oda had "no further comment."
Opposition vows more scrutiny
Some opposition MPs say extravagant spending is a pattern for Oda and that they are going to start putting it under more of a microscope.
In 2006, she used limousines to ferry her to and from the Juno Awards ceremony in Halifax, racking up $5,475 in bills. When the expenses were criticized in the House of Commons, she said she had reimbursed the taxpayer $2,200 of the bill.
A year later, Oda billed taxpayers more than $1,200 for another limousine ride that took her to both a government event and a party.
NDP Leader Tom Mulcair said Oda's apology does not put an end to the controversy.
"The only thing that she's apologizing for is the extra expense for the hotels. We still haven't heard about whether or not she's going to reimburse the $1000 for the limo to get her from one hotel to another," he said, adding this is a "repeat offence" by a minister that shows disregard for taxpayers' money.
Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae said there is no justification for Oda hiring a car and driver during her stay in London, particularly when there are cars available from the embassy, or she could have taken taxis.
"It's ridiculous to think that ministers get themselves in these positions where they think this is what they are entitled to, it's all wrong," he said following question period.
Oda is on the hot seat this week but she is not the highest-spending member of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's cabinet. Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz is the one who racked up the biggest travel and hospitality tab in recent years.
Since March 2010, his expenses for trade missions to places such as Italy, Turkey, Indonesia and Japan have totalled $271,489. Ritz's spokeswoman, Meagan Murdoch, says all his travel helped Canadian agriculture exports hit record levels of $44 billion last year.
Oda had the fifth-highest travel and hospitality expenses over a two-year period, behind Ritz, Flaherty, Defence Minister Peter MacKay and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird.
Lets not forget about Sheer who was making 300K tax free a year living in a pax payer funded mansion but still could not afford to pay for his kids private schools and his own clothes. so he had his party pay for it. The party gets funding from tax payers.
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I kind of feel like we are both paying those massive perks while still having morons that that wag their fingers while chanting "Do what I say, not what I do"...
Hey JT~! Have you recovered from your 2nd round of COVID yet?
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The flip side of that is how do you get effective executives in government then if there are no perks when private has tonnes? They’re all just going to go to private sector and you’re left with morons who need to hold up their finger to know which way is left or right.
Nobody is altruistic enough to serve the public just so they can sleep at night knowing they served the public, which is what you’re asking for.
International Cooperation Minister Bev Oda goes to a conference in London.
Does not like the hotel the conference is at.
Spends $665 night to to stay t the Savoy.
Spends $1000 a day for a limo to take her to the conference at the original hotel.
Has to pay a cancellation charge to the original hotel.
Spends $16 for a glass of Orange juice.
Full story: Bev Oda apologizes for swanky hotel stay - Politics - CBC News
nternational Cooperation Minister Bev Oda said sorry Tuesday for charging taxpayers with an expensive hotel stay in London, England last year, but her apology failed to satisfy critics.
"The expenses are unacceptable, should never have been charged to taxpayers," Oda said in the House of Commons in response to a question from interim Liberal leader Bob Rae. "I have repaid the costs associated with [the] changing of hotels and I unreservedly apologize."
Oda's travel expenses caused controversy on Monday when it was revealed that she was originally booked to stay at a hotel where she was attending a conference last June, but had her staff rebook her at the swanky Savoy hotel, where her stay cost her about $665 per night. The total bill for her three-day stay including the room and room service was $1,995. The room charges included an orange juice that cost $16.
Oda also hired a car and driver, at a cost of about $1,000 per day, to bring her to the hotel she was originally supposed to stay at and incurred a cancellation charge for refusing to stay at the Grange St. Paul's hotel.
After the Canadian Press broke the story on Monday, Oda's office said she would personally cover the tab for the difference in cost between the two hotels, the cancellation fee, and the orange juice. In total, she repaid $1,353.81.
"She only did this because she got caught," NDP House leader Nathan Cullen said Tuesday.
Demands for more reimbursement
Opposition MPs are demanding she also reimburse taxpayers for the car rental since it was also associated with her change in hotels. If she had stayed at the original hotel where the conference was, transportation wouldn't have been needed, they say.
Oda didn't answer any further questions in question period. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan said the minister apologized and repaid the costs associated with changing hotels.
Oda's office says she followed all Treasury Board guidelines when she filed the expenses, and in an interview with a local television station yesterday she said she had nothing to be embarrassed about and she suggested her critics were being "extremist."
Oda did not provide an answer when asked in the interview why she insisted on staying at the Savoy instead of the same hotel as the conference.
Liberal MP Scott Andrews, however, vocalized a theory: "This is about her not being able to get a smoking room on site, " he said.
The Grange St. Paul's is now a non-smoking hotel but last summer it was possible to book a smoking room. The Savoy also has smoking rooms available.
CBC News asked Oda's office again Tuesday for an explanation for the hotel change and was told Oda had "no further comment."
Opposition vows more scrutiny
Some opposition MPs say extravagant spending is a pattern for Oda and that they are going to start putting it under more of a microscope.
In 2006, she used limousines to ferry her to and from the Juno Awards ceremony in Halifax, racking up $5,475 in bills. When the expenses were criticized in the House of Commons, she said she had reimbursed the taxpayer $2,200 of the bill.
A year later, Oda billed taxpayers more than $1,200 for another limousine ride that took her to both a government event and a party.
NDP Leader Tom Mulcair said Oda's apology does not put an end to the controversy.
"The only thing that she's apologizing for is the extra expense for the hotels. We still haven't heard about whether or not she's going to reimburse the $1000 for the limo to get her from one hotel to another," he said, adding this is a "repeat offence" by a minister that shows disregard for taxpayers' money.
Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae said there is no justification for Oda hiring a car and driver during her stay in London, particularly when there are cars available from the embassy, or she could have taken taxis.
"It's ridiculous to think that ministers get themselves in these positions where they think this is what they are entitled to, it's all wrong," he said following question period.
Oda is on the hot seat this week but she is not the highest-spending member of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's cabinet. Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz is the one who racked up the biggest travel and hospitality tab in recent years.
Since March 2010, his expenses for trade missions to places such as Italy, Turkey, Indonesia and Japan have totalled $271,489. Ritz's spokeswoman, Meagan Murdoch, says all his travel helped Canadian agriculture exports hit record levels of $44 billion last year.
Oda had the fifth-highest travel and hospitality expenses over a two-year period, behind Ritz, Flaherty, Defence Minister Peter MacKay and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird.
Lets not forget about Sheer who was making 300K tax free a year living in a pax payer funded mansion but still could not afford to pay for his kids private schools and his own clothes. so he had his party pay for it. The party gets funding from tax payers.
Again, I don’t care about which party they are from. Fuck this whole thing
If the bitch wouldn’t be staying at the Savoy on her own dollar during a personal holiday etc. she sure as hell shouldn’t be staying there on the tax payers dime.
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Poilievre pandering to the lowest common denominator. How are we even still talking about this? Is this guys strategy of channeling Maxime Bernier and gunning for the 4chan crowd really the direction the cons want take their party?
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But he called vaccine mandates “unfair, unscientific bullying” and said he encourages “everyone to keep protesting government attacks on our freedoms.”
“I support all Canadians who peacefully stand up for their rights in protesting the Liberal Government’s vaccine vendetta,” Poilievre said
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
People like Poilievre don't care how they win. He would throw his whole family under the bus to become P.M. Every single stance he takes is based on how many votes he will get. The guy is a weasel.
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I agree with you, but I don't think it's a strategy to pay off. People don't care about the pandemic anymore, and they certainly don't give a shit about people protesting for freedom related to the pandemic as life is essentially as normal now.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
https://apple.news/AIWI2zxJMQASoAUgA0q5-yw
Poilievre pandering to the lowest common denominator. How are we even still talking about this? Is this guys strategy of channeling Maxime Bernier and gunning for the 4chan crowd really the direction the cons want take their party?
It is unfortunate the news media doesn't do actual journalism anymore.
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