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The older I get, the worse politics look. I'm almost at the point where I feel like it's a complete sham and the real people pulling the strings are just watching and laughing at us sheep lining up and voting between 2 to 3 piles of shit because it's "our duty."
At the Canadian federal and BC provincial level, I'd still say voters as a whole generally make the right or less damaging choice more often than we make the wrong choice. This means we still make the wrong / poorer choice every now and then. And for the most part, the quality and integrity of our politicians have generally been going downhill.
At the municipal level, CoV just keep on getting shxttier, with Kennedy Stewart being the absolute worst (CoV) mayor I've wittnessed in my entire adult life. The current City Council is also the worst it has ever been.
It's definitely gotten worse over the last decade or so.
I feel like it really accelerated during the Obama years in his presidency, with COVID/Trump pouring gasoline on the problem.
The internet has created this cesspool of misinformation, mistrust, and polarization.
We were insolated from it in the past, now are politics are becoming more and more Americanized.
It blows my mind that we aren't discussing this problem more broadly -- it doesn't bode well for future politics.
I never really followed US politics (until recently when Kavanaugh was getting confirmed), but I remember I was down by Pikes Place in Seattle and I think Obama's first year as POTUS. There was some sort of Farmers market type stands outside and one of the stands had a picture of Obama with the sign "OBAMA = Hitler" and they were handing out flyers about something to that effect.
Like WTF?
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US political ads are so cringe right now. It's midterms soon and they're showing Congressional/Senate candidates on TV right now. These are from Washington state so I can't imagine what kind of garbage is being shown in Redder states right now. This is literally what the two ads I saw were showing:
Democrat: I was in the army so you should vote for me. In Washington I'll fight against misinformation and falsehoods like I fought in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Republican: I'm a "CONSERVATIVE business man." Here's my brood which is the picture perfect example of an Aryan family - blonde stay-at-home wife, 4 young kids. In Washington I'll fight against Biden's evil agenda. Did I mention I was a CONSERVATIVE business man? I create jobs!
Platform? Values? Voting record? Nahh. Not important.
Man I miss the days they just badmouthed the other candidate. At least they were sometimes funny.
Only a few years before this shit show reaches Canada.
Every single ad in red states the republican candidate has a gun and says things like "I'm going to take aim at corruption" or "it's time to defend American from outside interests *cocks gun*"
Or some other SO CLEVER (sarcasm) gun reference. My eyes couldn't roll any further if I tried, but apparently the clapping walruses down there just eat it up.
UPC in Alberta had an essay writing contest for women.
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Alberta women were invited this spring to share their vision for Alberta and what they would do if they were Members of the Legislative Assembly. The winners of the contest and their submissions are below.
This won 3rd place.
Spoiler!
Women have a unique strength: our ability to give birth. This strength cannot be justly undermined, underestimated, or demeaned, for without it none of us would be alive today, our way of life and our culture would vanish, our very species would cease to exist. While it is sadly popular nowadays to think that the world would be better off without humans, or that Albertan children are unnecessary as we can import foreigners to replace ourselves, this is a sickly mentality that amounts to a drive for cultural suicide. The first rule of health for any biological population is their ability to reproduce and pass along their way of life into the future. Women are not exactly equal to men. This biological reality is also under attack by present-day delusion. To try to promote that women break into careers that men traditionally dominate is not only misguided, but it is harmful. Such a focus detracts from the languishing unique strength and the truly important role that women have in the preservation of our community, culture, and species. Unfortunately, present day government policies all-too-often have this misguided and harmful aim. Many women now realize in their late 30s that they actually want a child after having been taught that career was what mattered earlier in their lives, and they then regret not having done it earlier, when they were in their prime. Others couldn’t afford to have children when they were younger. Sadly, having children is an expensive burden in our modern society. It is this way because our society has become oriented around personal greed and selfish and hedonistic goals. Families who are trying to raise children are competing for resources such as housing, and are at a disadvantage in this environment. And while there is some government assistance for people with children, it is primarily focused on the lowest income parents, so it provides little help to middle class families. My vision of Alberta is a place that is oriented around healthy families and communities again, not around personal greed and selfishness. Recognizing children as being of the utmost importance in our society would be the cornerstone of such a future. Unity among people requires shared common values, and the importance of children and family are the most fundamental values of any healthy population, so this is also the place to start towards achieving greater unity among presently-divided Albertans. As a future parliamentarian, I would promote healthy appreciation for the value that young Albertan women have in their ability to carry our population forward into the future. I believe that the best approach would be to reward families for their reproductive service both with financial rewards to offset the financial burden they are taking on and with medals to symbolize their valuable achievement of having 2+ children. Encouraging our society to reorient in this healthier perspective would provide the greatest good for Alberta going forward and would alleviate many of the problems that we are currently facing.
They ended up removing it from the website. Lucky places like google archive the internet.
This is the website for the Legislative Assembly of Alberta.
So, how do folks feel about their local elections?
Arguably, it's the level of government that matters to most people as they encounter it on a daily basis, yet voter turnout is well below 40%.
Looks like there will be some major vote splitting in both Surrey and Vancouver this year. I also see that there is a new political party in the City of Burnaby.
As an elder millennial, I also feel that there is a changing of the guard and that people my age and who are ethnic minorities are entering politics in droves. Someone I went to school with is running for one of the major parties in Vancouver, for example. It's nice to see that millennials, the generation that has been dumped on for decades, are finally asserting themselves in both politics and in the corporate world.
UPC in Alberta had an essay writing contest for women.
This won 3rd place.
Spoiler!
Women have a unique strength: our ability to give birth. This strength cannot be justly undermined, underestimated, or demeaned, for without it none of us would be alive today, our way of life and our culture would vanish, our very species would cease to exist. While it is sadly popular nowadays to think that the world would be better off without humans, or that Albertan children are unnecessary as we can import foreigners to replace ourselves, this is a sickly mentality that amounts to a drive for cultural suicide. The first rule of health for any biological population is their ability to reproduce and pass along their way of life into the future. Women are not exactly equal to men. This biological reality is also under attack by present-day delusion. To try to promote that women break into careers that men traditionally dominate is not only misguided, but it is harmful. Such a focus detracts from the languishing unique strength and the truly important role that women have in the preservation of our community, culture, and species. Unfortunately, present day government policies all-too-often have this misguided and harmful aim. Many women now realize in their late 30s that they actually want a child after having been taught that career was what mattered earlier in their lives, and they then regret not having done it earlier, when they were in their prime. Others couldn’t afford to have children when they were younger. Sadly, having children is an expensive burden in our modern society. It is this way because our society has become oriented around personal greed and selfish and hedonistic goals. Families who are trying to raise children are competing for resources such as housing, and are at a disadvantage in this environment. And while there is some government assistance for people with children, it is primarily focused on the lowest income parents, so it provides little help to middle class families. My vision of Alberta is a place that is oriented around healthy families and communities again, not around personal greed and selfishness. Recognizing children as being of the utmost importance in our society would be the cornerstone of such a future. Unity among people requires shared common values, and the importance of children and family are the most fundamental values of any healthy population, so this is also the place to start towards achieving greater unity among presently-divided Albertans. As a future parliamentarian, I would promote healthy appreciation for the value that young Albertan women have in their ability to carry our population forward into the future. I believe that the best approach would be to reward families for their reproductive service both with financial rewards to offset the financial burden they are taking on and with medals to symbolize their valuable achievement of having 2+ children. Encouraging our society to reorient in this healthier perspective would provide the greatest good for Alberta going forward and would alleviate many of the problems that we are currently facing.
They ended up removing it from the website. Lucky places like google archive the internet.
This is the website for the Legislative Assembly of Alberta.
The part that cracks me up is the UCP response. The Minister in charge of women's issues condemns it, then realised she was in charge of the judging panel.
Alberta's associate minister in charge of women's issues Jackie Armstrong-Homeniuk says that an essay with sexist, racist and white nationalist elements never should have been awarded a prize in a contest for young women launched earlier this year.
Armstrong-Homeniuk, the UCP MLA for Fort Saskatchewan-Vegreville and the newly appointed associate minister for status of women, tried to distance herself from the contest on Tuesday through a written statement.
Initially Armstrong-Homeniuk said the essay should never have been chosen. Hours later, after hearing from her caucus and cabinet colleagues about how the essay was chosen, she issued a second statement.
"It's clear that the process failed, and I apologize for my role in that," Armstrong-Homeniuk said.
"The selection of this particular essay and awarding it with third prize was a failure on my part as the head of the judging panel.
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Sold out the party? What kind of power would they have in the government otherwise? Would he have won the election that was forced if they dropped out of it?
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
We’ll all that’s going to happen now if he he wants to topple the govt. the liberals are going to come back with a majority.
He sold them out in that he literally has no power yet cowered to the libs in order to have some semblance of “power” yet he is completely powerless. Should add a couple powers to that sentence lol. This is a big party of all my fellow union morons who thought there was an actual chance his anti-scab legislation would go through which is very clearly will not. How long will jagmeet get strung along until none of what he was promised ever gets put on the table, till the next election?
Again, if you were an NDP supporter and you’re not at the very least extremely unhappy with how your party has played this game. Then you simply don’t understand the situation
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It's nice to see that millennials, the generation that has been dumped on for decades, are finally asserting themselves in both politics and in the corporate world.
I agree with what you are saying, but millenials have not been dumped on for decades...they are literally between 25 and 40 now lol.
Not allowing 11 year olds to run for office isn't really "dumping on millenials".
Again, if you were an NDP supporter and you’re not at the very least extremely unhappy with how your party has played this game. Then you simply don’t understand the situation
As a NDP supporter I would rather have JT in power than someone from the con party. Seems like the cons only care about getting into power. When they should be focused on making the country better. Talk is JT is going to call an election as soon as PP wins the nomination. That way PP has no time to walk back any of his statements
That essay comp smells. Those things are suppose to be photo op's. But we have zero photo's of the winners and we don't even have full names. Also it was held by the Alberta legislative assembly but you only had members from the UPC. I would not be surprised if the writers where staff or lobbyists.
I have a customer that is bit crazy and into conspiracy theories. She is the reason why I know what gang stocking is. Last week I told her that buying lotto is just giving more money to Trudeau and she went off. Got all upset and started screaming.
Maybe if I see her again I will tell her that 6/49 was started in 1982. The PM at that time was Pierre Trudeau.
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If it wasn’t going to be PP I’d say it wouldn’t be a big deal either, but the incel, anti vax nut job empowerment that will come from his leadership will be fucking unbearable.
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Westopher is correct.
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Originally Posted by fsy82
seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
As a NDP supporter I would rather have JT in power than someone from the con party. Seems like the cons only care about getting into power. When they should be focused on making the country better. Talk is JT is going to call an election as soon as PP wins the nomination. That way PP has no time to walk back any of his statements
That essay comp smells. Those things are suppose to be photo op's. But we have zero photo's of the winners and we don't even have full names. Also it was held by the Alberta legislative assembly but you only had members from the UPC. I would not be surprised if the writers where staff or lobbyists.
I have a customer that is bit crazy and into conspiracy theories. She is the reason why I know what gang stocking is. Last week I told her that buying lotto is just giving more money to Trudeau and she went off. Got all upset and started screaming.
Maybe if I see her again I will tell her that 6/49 was started in 1982. The PM at that time was Pierre Trudeau.
"Seems like the cons only care about getting into power. When they should be focused on making the country better."
"Talk is JT is going to call an election as soon as PP wins the nomination."
"Seems like the cons only care about getting into power. When they should be focused on making the country better."
"Talk is JT is going to call an election as soon as PP wins the nomination."
The irony.
Isn't that what the cons want. They keep chanting Trudeau must go and the only way that's going to happen is with another election. Is it JT's fault the cons can't agree on any policy? From abortion to the carbon tax they can't agree on anything.
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So JT engineers a separation from NDP, they gang up on him in non-confidence motion and gov't gets toppled, sends the country into another election?
JT better as hell not call one again ... if he does, that alone might sink him. It feels like it was just a year ago that we went through this waste of time and money.
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EDIT: This whole video would be much better with some music:
- senior verbally assaulted in China town with racist remarks
- senior bear sprayed
- suspected arrested then automatically released
Crazy there’s so much random crime, who’d have thunk? The system is so effective
Guys like this you would love to see accidentally on purpose take a few sledge hammer blows to the skull, bring no value to society.
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