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westopher 10-11-2022 08:11 AM

Just think of how shitty the hockey moms/dads could get growing up.
These associations are just the evolution of the most over the top hockey parents.

Traum 10-11-2022 08:38 AM

I'd say it's the ugly side of human nature. Any time there is any semblance of power involved, it brings out the worst in certain types of people. It's my way or the highway. People butt heads, and power struggle ensues. You see it in sports associations from little leaguer type of thing, to regional / provincial level training. You see it in strata council. You see it in grassroots organizations. It's super pathetic. :(

supafamous 10-11-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9078113)
IMO, both KS are shxtty choices. But since I know how delusional, incompetent, and absolutely disastrous Kennedy Stewart is and how much I want to get rid of him, I am willing to put my ballot behind the other KS devil.

You should also bear in mind that Kennedy Stewart has a major fallout with the VPD, and things are so bad between them that for the first time in a long time (or possibly first time ever), the police union is backing Ken Sim as their candidate of choice. Sim's platform claims to hire 100 additional officers and 100 mental health nurses, and while I think he sounds every bit like a sleazy used car salesman, I'd expect him to at least partially make good of his promise to the VPD / mental health workers. In that regard, the VPD should have some additional resources to tackle crime and mental health issues.

(FWIW, I also think VPD is very poorly managed under Chief Palmer, and much of their financial woes is their own fault.)

Kennedy Stewart has been, at best, a disappointment as Mayor BUT I would say that his circumstances are as much the reason as it was his skills. The implosion of Vision Vancouver caused the most fragmented and divisive city council we've seen in a long time and there are few mayors who could have wrangled that council into something productive.

It's quite possible that we'll be headed to another divided council this election and Ken Sim is totally not the guy to get things done - like you said he sounds like a sleazy used car salesman and every answer he gives is proof he doesn't know how gov't runs and that he also thinks he knows better (when he doesn't). He's so full of shit.

I'm largely a one issue voter (housing) and Ken's platform on housing is next to useless. He's no closet racist like Colleen Hardwick but his platform will do nothing but make things even worse for residents.

The only mayoral candidate that understands the housing crisis and the way out of it (or improve it) is Kennedy Stewart and if his party and OneCity Vancouver get elected we'd see actual progress on housing in Vancouver.

I also can't get behind a candidate that the police union is behind.

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9078113)
As a last bit of spreading my own municipal propaganda, I am going to put 1 of my parks board commissioner vote to Tricia Barker (TEAM). She is campaigning on a platform to restore Stanley Park to pre-Covid status and access, and that is exactly what I want because I think the current setup with 1 lane permanently given to cyclists + blocking off the exit to Beach Ave is absolutely ludicrous. Last year I was stuck in gridlock for something like 1.5 hrs between Prospect Point until I got out of the Park at W.Georgia with a hungry and very cranky young child in the back of my car, and this insanity just needs to end.

I feel your pain but I'm not sure I agree but I also don't think what they've done is working and I'm not sure what the right solution is - the park is busier than ever and those additional bike lanes were a success for cyclists but it sure made everything else worse by a lot. Stanley Park should be accessible for everyone and maybe we need to seriously consider widening the road around it (even if at certain points to make passing possible).

unit 10-11-2022 01:45 PM

just get rid of the horse drawn carriage, that's the main reason why cars get super clogged up in stanley, not because there is only one lane now.

EvoFire 10-11-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9078217)
just get rid of the horse drawn carriage, that's the main reason why cars get super clogged up in stanley, not because there is only one lane now.

This. We go to the aquarium every other week. Everytime there's a problem it's the horse drawn carriage. Sometimes the back up goes all the way through the aquarium parking lot, it's bad.

supafamous 10-11-2022 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9078217)
just get rid of the horse drawn carriage, that's the main reason why cars get super clogged up in stanley, not because there is only one lane now.

I suspect that it's too much of a tourist attraction to get rid of but there's gotta be more spots where they can add a passing lane AND potentially require the carriage to stop long enough to clear the backups?

Manic! 10-11-2022 04:17 PM

Alberta is going down the shitter.


https://twitter.com/KevinCTV/status/...arkYA__bKW6Ujw

Gumby 10-11-2022 04:26 PM

But that's not what the radio ads enticing others from across Canada to move to Alberta are saying! :lol

Traum 10-11-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9078217)
just get rid of the horse drawn carriage, that's the main reason why cars get super clogged up in stanley, not because there is only one lane now.

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9078231)
This. We go to the aquarium every other week. Everytime there's a problem it's the horse drawn carriage. Sometimes the back up goes all the way through the aquarium parking lot, it's bad.

I'd say the closure of the Beach Ave. exit is the single biggest reason why traffic is backed up leaving the park. W.Georgia is busy, and it is not easy to merge into that bridge-leaving traffic.

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9078212)
I feel your pain but I'm not sure I agree but I also don't think what they've done is working and I'm not sure what the right solution is - the park is busier than ever and those additional bike lanes were a success for cyclists but it sure made everything else worse by a lot. Stanley Park should be accessible for everyone and maybe we need to seriously consider widening the road around it (even if at certain points to make passing possible).

A key point that you've mentioned is -- Stanley Park should be accessible for everyone, and the arrangement right now means it is only accessible for the local residents in the West End and the cyclists.

As the crown jewel park for tourists, I also think it is extremely short sighted for Parks Board to make Stanley Park inaccessible to tourists. No tour group is gonna waste 1.5 hrs stuck in traffic jam, so they are just gonna skip it altogether. This was a non-issue at the time during lockdown, but with travel being completely open again, the tourist-generated revenues is HUGE (and I am not just talking about the direct revenues made by the Park and its various businesses).

Tapioca 10-11-2022 08:34 PM

I see ABC squeaking out a mayoral win as well as their incumbents returning to council as they will grab the lion's share of the second/third generation immigrant detached home owning voting block. Reddit Vancouver seems to be fixated on crime in the DTES, so Kennedy will probably lose the renter tech-bro vote - that vote will be split between ABC and the NPA. Hardwick has a ceiling of maybe 15%.

Hondaracer 10-12-2022 12:25 AM

That’s how I feel my riding is with gross Jenny Kwan. The people who vote her in are the same type who don’t come out into the sunlight. But they get out to vote because she’s an encumbant Asian NDPer!

She’s literally done nothing, like I ask people who say they vote for her what she’s actually done period and no one can have a single answer lol

Hondaracer 10-12-2022 12:32 AM

Here’s a gooder, the man who was arrested for stabbing multiple people in crab park over the weekend was convicted of manslaughter in 2016.

Prior to being arrested for the stabbing he also had multiple serious charges pending:

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...attack-in-2016

He killed somone by stabbing them in 2016.. charged with manslaughter and you’re out again by 2022 with multiple convictions to go on another stabbing spree?…

Lol this country is a fucking joke man. We are the land of no-accountability. Whether it be Corporate, political, or criminal there are no repercussions for your actions.

SkinnyPupp 10-12-2022 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9078263)
That’s how I feel my riding is with gross Jenny Kwan. The people who vote her in are the same type who don’t come out into the sunlight. But they get out to vote because she’s an encumbant Asian NDPer!

She’s literally done nothing, like I ask people who say they vote for her what she’s actually done period and no one can have a single answer lol

Most peoples' answer to why they vote for her would probably be "to try to get NDP a majority government"

Hondaracer 10-12-2022 01:54 AM

She’s been a federal MP long before the NDP had even a sniff of power. She’s had enough time to go to Disneyland and other family trips on the Tax payers time which she eventually got caught for. But again, the people voting for her have their heads buried in the sand

whitev70r 10-12-2022 06:44 AM

Harm reduction (BC way of offering clean drugs without required treatment) as a strategy has had enough time to evaluate its efficacy ... and the eye test says it is failing miserably.

I appreciate that the video isn't just criticism but offers the Portugal model of clean drugs plus mandatory assessment as an alternative solution (person is offered clean drugs but must enter into an appropriate flow of help and rehab).

whitev70r 10-12-2022 05:36 PM

K, if you live in Surrey, please do not re-elect Doug McCallum. I don't understand why Surrey would even put this senile idiot in municipal office. Please ... anyone but McCallum.

westopher 10-12-2022 05:46 PM

Haha the guy is like a geriatric cartoon character.

Manic! 10-13-2022 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9078263)
She’s literally done nothing, like I ask people who say they vote for her what she’s actually done period and no one can have a single answer lol

What has Pierre done in all his years? what bills has he put forward that have passed? Lets judge all politicians the same way.

Manic! 10-13-2022 11:05 AM


What do you think?

68style 10-13-2022 12:15 PM

I think he’s hooped from the getgo putting the word socialist in his party name… no matter how good his platform is lol

westopher 10-13-2022 12:36 PM

Pretty sure I’ve met Sean a couple times. He’s a really talented cook. Used to work at L’abbatoir

supafamous 10-13-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9078451)

That's cute.

He wrote a column in the Georgia Straight that goes into more details: https://www.straight.com/news/sean-o...r-city-council

Sean isn't much wrong with what he's saying is happening but he's wrong or at least naive about how to fix it. He's raging against the machine but doesn't show that he knows how to work the machine. He thinks capitalism is the root of the problem which it kinda is but it's also the solution to the problems - people pursue profit so set the incentives so that profit is made from solving the right problems.

GLOW 10-13-2022 03:13 PM

i agree, you have to know how the system works in order to even attempt to get things done.

a lot of the people do not understand government, policy, approvals process etc and are just angry, which is fine, but you can't just "make things happen".

CoV voting has so many things to choose from I appreciate the voting assistant interface setup where you can read a bio/blurb of what a candidate is about and who they are. Reminds me of going through resumes.

Not the best way to decide on someone in under a minute I know, but for someone like myself it gives me a feel of do I think they have what it takes (but not know their true motives) and it made it easy when it came time to walk in and start inking dots.

whitev70r 10-13-2022 03:24 PM

This is NOT OK and cannot be the norm !!

Elderly man breaks hip in Chinatown assault: Vancouver police


https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...sault-elderly/


A 93-year-old man has been taken to the hospital with a broken hip after Vancouver police say he was knocked to the ground in Chinatown Tuesday.

It happened just after 3 p.m. The VPD says the man, who has lived in the neighbourhood for 30 years, was heading to a bakery in the area of Main and East Pender streets when he was “pushed over by a stranger.”

The senior was helped by several bystanders before he was taken to be treated.

Police have released surveillance footage of the incident, noting it happened in a heavy pedestrian and vehicle traffic area. Investigators are hoping the public can help identify the suspect.

GLOW 10-15-2022 12:04 PM

quite sad to see this happen to chinatown


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