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westopher 11-04-2022 05:57 PM

So if someone does something that has a positive effect, you think they are stupid for not doing it sooner?
It's pretty obvious that no matter what happens with this government, it will always end up with "they are stupid, I am smart" comments from you, so why bother to pretend otherwise?

Hehe 11-04-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9080825)
So if someone does something that has a positive effect, you think they are stupid for not doing it sooner?
It's pretty obvious that no matter what happens with this government, it will always end up with "they are stupid, I am smart" comments from you, so why bother to pretend otherwise?

Exactly... which goes back to my original point. Our gov't always does things reactively... never actually has any plan in advance.

I already said, I'm not against this proposal. But digging deep into the reasoning of doing this right now, why?

It's nothing more than saying "oh yes, we are doing something to help Canadians with sky high inflation and an interest rate that young people still in college have never encountered in their working life".

This proposal was not made because it helps Canadians to get better education. It's merely a way with little resistance for the gov't to say that they are actually doing something.

westopher 11-04-2022 08:59 PM

I like how “the government is stupid for not doing it earlier in their term” as opposed to “it’s stupid that previous governments didn’t enact this policy.” There’s absolutely no logic in it.

inv4zn 11-04-2022 09:55 PM

hehe you dolt, interest on student loans used to only start accruing AFTER graduation. Making them interest free is not an incentive for 18 year olds to pursue education, it's making the loans "cheaper" to maintain for literally millions of working adults.

Also interest-freeze has been in place since 2020 when Covid first hit, they just made it permanent after 2 years of already being in place.

If you want to argue it's reactionary, at least argue it's because Biden is about to write off student loans in the 'muricas.

I don't have student loans as I paid mine off aggressively, but this is a good thing.

Hehe 11-04-2022 10:26 PM

I’ve been through college and grad school. So I believe I know a thing or two about what student loan is.

Again, let me repeat what I’ve said in the last 2 posts, I’m not against the policy and it makes sense to have this. I just want to point out the fact that our government is too short sighted. They don’t see things into the future but only the present. Which is the part that saddens/annoys me the most.

When we have leaders who can’t see more than a few years, that means there’s little to be expected.

Manic! 11-04-2022 11:19 PM

Better late than never.
Alberta also does student loans at prime plus 2. They have no plans to end it. I guess they are to busy fighting wef and kids.

Hondaracer 11-04-2022 11:23 PM

So that guy who assaulted the woman in the lobby of her building and then instantly released:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...ail-vancouver/

Has now been released again on Bail, but not only with that random assault he committed, he also is charged with 2 counts of sexual assault for PREVIOUS INCIDENTS PRIOR TO THE RANDOM ASSAULT

Don’t even know what to say anymore

sonick 11-05-2022 12:36 AM

Who decides on the court's terms regarding granting bail vs no bail? City of Vancouver? Province of BC? Federal government?

Legitimately curious as I have no idea, but definitely seems unreasonable to grant bail given the multiple offences and risk to repeat.

sdubfid 11-05-2022 04:36 AM

Possibly Bob barker with a plinko machine

Hondaracer 11-05-2022 06:50 AM

The scary thing is almost certainly the random assault in the lobby would have been a sexual assault if the strangers hadn’t intervened

But again, guess she wasn’t penetrated, only mentally scarred for life so in Canada you can just walk the turnstile back into the streets and hit up McDonald’s for a nice Big Mac before committing your next felony.

westopher 11-05-2022 06:56 AM

Serious question, what is causing people like that to be released? Honestly the only hope is that this guy has an altercation with the wrong person and gets his face smashed in at this point.
Multiple violent crime offenders, especially random sexual violence should be either fast tracked for their court dates or be held as long as necessary.

Great68 11-05-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9080845)
Who decides on the court's terms regarding granting bail vs no bail? City of Vancouver? Province of BC? Federal government?

Legitimately curious as I have no idea, but definitely seems unreasonable to grant bail given the multiple offences and risk to repeat.

The Crown attorney first decides if they want to consent to or oppose bail. If they decide to oppose bail, then they make their case in front of a judge.

The Defense attorney argues why an accused should be released on bail.

But ultimately the decision to grant or deny bail comes down to the judge.

So the answer to "what is causing these people to be released" really comes down to Judges being a bit soft and/or not correctly assessing the risk to public safety and the likelihood for a violent person to reoffend while on bail.

As to who puts pressure on the judges to be a bit more scrutinizing during bail hearings? I'm not really sure, probably the provincial government, or the public itself.

Zedbra 11-05-2022 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9080841)
So that guy who assaulted the woman in the lobby of her building and then instantly released:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...ail-vancouver/

Has now been released again on Bail, but not only with that random assault he committed, he also is charged with 2 counts of sexual assault for PREVIOUS INCIDENTS PRIOR TO THE RANDOM ASSAULT

Don’t even know what to say anymore

And the Liberals backed out all of Haprer's mandatory sentences for many offences that were set to keep the public safe - virtue signalling is better than your peace.

Hondaracer 11-06-2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9080841)
So that guy who assaulted the woman in the lobby of her building and then instantly released:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...ail-vancouver/

Has now been released again on Bail, but not only with that random assault he committed, he also is charged with 2 counts of sexual assault for PREVIOUS INCIDENTS PRIOR TO THE RANDOM ASSAULT

Don’t even know what to say anymore


Hahahahahah

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...after-release/

This guy was arrested again instantly after being released on that bail I posted about, in under 24 hours, for breaking the bail conditions

Yay Canada!

Full credit to the cops, they seem to be doing their jobs. This system is going to get more and more people randomly assaulted, killed, and raped.

Hondaracer 11-07-2022 11:03 PM

Lol this dumb bitch.. go snort some more amphetamines

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/chrystia-f...195659519.html

Quote:

“I personally, as a mother and wife, look carefully at my credit card bill once a month,” she said. “And last Sunday, I said to the kids, ‘you’re older now. You don’t watch Disney anymore. Let’s cut that Disney+ subscription. So we cut it. It’s only $13.99 a month that we’re saving, but every little bit helps.”
Making 250k+ a year with whatever other side deals she has and a net worth of 5+ million and she’s telling you to cancel your Disney+ subscription :toot:

Manic! 11-07-2022 11:05 PM

Con candidate in Alberta was disqualified for things she liked and shared on social media. This was one of her videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...eEsrv&index=54

CivicBlues 11-08-2022 07:57 AM

For so long we only saw gaffe-prone nutjobs in politics in the form of old white men. Feminists would always retort with "well if women ran the world..." Well what say you now? :whistle:

Manic! 11-08-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9081046)
For so long we only saw gaffe-prone nutjobs in politics in the form of old white men. Feminists would always retort with "well if women ran the world..." Well what say you now? :whistle:

Mental illness does not care about gender. The fact she was nominated by the conservative party shows the mental state of the party and people who support the conservative party.

mikemhg 11-08-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9081046)
For so long we only saw gaffe-prone nutjobs in politics in the form of old white men. Feminists would always retort with "well if women ran the world..." Well what say you now? :whistle:

I think it just proves that women can be just as batshit crazy as dudes can.

This woman reminds me of some of these conservative Aunt Lydia types that are vehemently against abortion. Such an odd case of cutting your own nose off to spite your face.

Imagine if women wanted to ban jerking off, and seeing some men come out and support that initiative :lol

CivicBlues 11-08-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9081061)
Mental illness does not care about gender. The fact she was nominated by the conservative party shows the mental state of the party and people who support the conservative party.

One need only look as far as "suburban soccer moms" to see where much of the base for right-leaning politics lies. Almost as perplexing as why Black/Latino Republicans exist in 2022.

donk. 11-08-2022 11:27 AM

"tHE conSErvAtiVeS"

Manic! 11-08-2022 11:46 AM

Can't wait for the cons to be triggered.

https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/...rld-110722.jpg

https://ew.com/tv/canadas-drag-race-...-guest-judges/

whitev70r 11-08-2022 11:48 AM

I think it has to do with stage in life. Most left-leaning individuals are young, single, unmarried, no kids. Then they grow up, have family, bills to pay, real life to deal with, responsibilities, and values gradually shift to center or center right.

Manic! 11-08-2022 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9081066)
I think it has to do with stage in life. Most left-leaning individuals are young, single, unmarried, no kids. Then they grow up, have family, bills to pay, real life to deal with, responsibilities, and values gradually shift to center or center right.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...44/247/297.png

sonick 11-08-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9081066)
I think it has to do with stage in life. Most left-leaning individuals are young, single, unmarried, no kids. Then they grow up, have family, bills to pay, real life to deal with, responsibilities, and values gradually shift to center or center right.

Yep its a longstanding thing not just an observation.

to quote John Adams one of the american Founding Fathers:
“If a person is not a liberal when he is twenty, he has no heart; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, he has no head."


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