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Manic! 02-19-2023 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091116)
CBC reporting the word “freedom” is a rallying cry for the far right

Lol Jesus Christ

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6349879.164470256...t-20220212.jpg

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6332157.164348213...edom-rally.jpg

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/dam/ctvnews/...?1656961608220

https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-p...db03/3000.jpeg

westopher 02-19-2023 06:38 PM

It's pretty clear that the right has highjacked the term "freedom" to actually fight against freedom in other parts of the world. You literally have people in the US using "my body my choice" as an argument against vaccination (which was never forced) and those same people doing everything they can to strip freedom of sexuality, women's body autonomy, pushing religion in schools, etc.
So yeah, it's happening and you are probably just purposely being obtuse.

sonick 02-19-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9091123)
It's pretty clear that the right has highjacked the term "freedom" to actually fight against freedom in other parts of the world. You literally have people in the US using "my body my choice" as an argument against vaccination (which was never forced) and those same people doing everything they can to strip freedom of sexuality, women's body autonomy, pushing religion in schools, etc.
So yeah, it's happening and you are probably just purposely being obtuse.

I also hate and am saddened how they've hijacked the Canadian flag for their cause as well.

I remember I used to tie a Canada flag to the trunk of my Miata and drive around for Canada Day every year. Now when I see a flag waving it's tarnished by not knowing whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job.

68style 02-19-2023 08:44 PM

Nevermind all the people who yell “FREE” nowadays during Oh Canada… that never happened prior to the convoy BS

MarkyMark 02-19-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9091129)
I also hate and am saddened how they've hijacked the Canadian flag for their cause as well.

I remember I used to tie a Canada flag to the trunk of my Miata and drive around for Canada Day every year. Now when I see a flag waving it's tarnished by not knowing whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job.

I think it's pretty obvious who the nut jobs are though. On Canada Day you're good. If you drive around with a big Canada flag year round with 'Freedom' on the side of your vehicle written in duct tape then you're probably a little nut nut.

donk. 02-20-2023 01:08 AM

Or your just American on the inside.....

SkinnyPupp 02-20-2023 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9091129)
I also hate and am saddened how they've hijacked the Canadian flag for their cause as well.

I remember I used to tie a Canada flag to the trunk of my Miata and drive around for Canada Day every year. Now when I see a flag waving it's tarnished by not knowing whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job.

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9091133)
Nevermind all the people who yell “FREE” nowadays during Oh Canada… that never happened prior to the convoy BS

And all this shit was started by Russia. These dummies don't even realize they are being completely manipulated by fucking Russia.

whitev70r 02-20-2023 06:11 AM

^ not China?

SkinnyPupp 02-20-2023 07:08 AM

It was Russia 100%. I read a report a few days ago, but I'd have to look it up again.

I'm sure other countries were flinging their own shit as well though

Hondaracer 02-20-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9091140)
And all this shit was started by Russia. These dummies don't even realize they are being completely manipulated by fucking Russia.

lol you’re just as bad as the freedom warriors but you’re just on the opposite side.

People like them and you, nothing can just ever be what it is. It couldn’t possibly just be people worried about govt overreach or questionable decisions on peoples rights. It always has to be some sort of weird fucking back story manipulation bla bla bla

It’s no different than anyone going on about the vaccine having ulterior motives etc. nothing can ever just be what it is. It’s gotta have some crazy other reason for it being.

whitev70r 02-20-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9091143)
It was Russia 100%. I read a report a few days ago, but I'd have to look it up again.

I'm sure other countries were flinging their own shit as well though

I said that cuz reports just came out that China tried to influence Canadian elections to a Liberal minority. And lo and behold, we have a Liberal minority!

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...sis-documents/

I think it's both ... Russia and China. But don't tell me US doesn't try to influence outcome of other countries toward democracy.

JDął 02-20-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9091129)
I also hate and am saddened how they've hijacked the Canadian flag for their cause as well.

I remember I used to tie a Canada flag to the trunk of my Miata and drive around for Canada Day every year. Now when I see a flag waving it's tarnished by not knowing whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job.

No one can usurp the national flag and what it represents. It stands for the nation of Canada and nothing else. If they're flying it upside down that's symbolism for something else but the flag will never be tarnished. If you think anyone hanging a Canadian flag off their deck or rolling with a sticker on their car is now a "right wing nutjob" the only person who's been hijacked is yourself.

sonick 02-20-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091182)
No one can usurp the national flag and what it represents. It stands for the nation of Canada and nothing else. If they're flying it upside down that's symbolism for something else but the flag will never be tarnished. If you think anyone hanging a Canadian flag off their deck or rolling with a sticker on their car is now a "right wing nutjob" the only person who's been hijacked is yourself.

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Manic! 02-20-2023 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091182)
No one can usurp the national flag and what it represents. It stands for the nation of Canada and nothing else. If they're flying it upside down that's symbolism for something else but the flag will never be tarnished. If you think anyone hanging a Canadian flag off their deck or rolling with a sticker on their car is now a "right wing nutjob" the only person who's been hijacked is yourself.

Then what the fuck is this:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...L._SL1500_.jpg

https://www.amazon.ca/Freedom-Mandat.../dp/B09RQWLL23

Hondaracer 02-20-2023 07:09 PM

Welcome to Canada:

Aug 17th 2022:

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On August 17, 2022, investigators charged 32-year-old Jamie George Guimond for his alleged involvement with Warrant: Aggravated Assault, Pointing a Firearm, Carrying Concealed Weapon, Discharge a Firearm. Guimond was already in custody at Stony Mountain Institution when the charges were laid on an unrelated matter. He remains in custody.
https://news4winnipeg.com/suspect-ch...enue-shooting/

Fast forward SEVEN MONTHS.. this past weekend on the DTES and the same guy is just firing bullets off like nothing..

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In a VPD release Monday, police say 32-year-old Jamie George Guimond has been charged with attempted murder and discharging a firearm in connection with the incident.
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...rges-eastside/

This country is a fucking joke!! Lol this is fucking insane

unit 02-20-2023 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091182)
No one can usurp the national flag and what it represents. It stands for the nation of Canada and nothing else. If they're flying it upside down that's symbolism for something else but the flag will never be tarnished. If you think anyone hanging a Canadian flag off their deck or rolling with a sticker on their car is now a "right wing nutjob" the only person who's been hijacked is yourself.

you gotta be delusional to actually believe that in todays political landscape.

JDął 02-20-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9091236)
you gotta be delusional to actually believe that in todays political landscape.

No, you don't; in fact it's the inverse when it comes to those who see it your way. It's the national flag of Canada, period. Are you now going to see any Canadian flag flying ANYWHERE, a sticker on a car, a patch on a backpack overseas, on a souvenir tshirt anywhere in Canada or the rest of the world and now associate them with the Truck Convoy of 2022? Is every member of the military, police, fire, and emergency services community your political enemy? If your answer is yes then you've allowed a Prime Minister, his political party, and media to make you judge and hate your neighbour and that's truly sad.

Time to take a step back from the tribal politics and look at the big picture.

68style 02-20-2023 09:12 PM

Uh... no... a bunch of redneck clowns acted like idiots using a symbol of my country and tarnished it.

Let's keep the blame where it belongs.

Gumby 02-20-2023 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091182)
No one can usurp the national flag and what it represents. It stands for the nation of Canada and nothing else. If they're flying it upside down that's symbolism for something else but the flag will never be tarnished. If you think anyone hanging a Canadian flag off their deck or rolling with a sticker on their car is now a "right wing nutjob" the only person who's been hijacked is yourself.

I think you're putting words in his mouth. Sonick said he's left wondering whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job. He didn't say he automatically assumes the person is a nutjob.

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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091237)
No, you don't; in fact it's the inverse when it comes to those who see it your way. It's the national flag of Canada, period. Are you now going to see any Canadian flag flying ANYWHERE, a sticker on a car, a patch on a backpack overseas, on a souvenir tshirt anywhere in Canada or the rest of the world and now associate them with the Truck Convoy of 2022? Is every member of the military, police, fire, and emergency services community your political enemy? If your answer is yes then you've allowed a Prime Minister, his political party, and media to make you judge and hate your neighbour and that's truly sad.

Time to take a step back from the tribal politics and look at the big picture.

Why do you have to take it to an extreme? It's all about context. If you come across someone with a flag on their backpack while hiking on a trail, it's probably no big deal. If you encounter someone with a flag with a group protesting about rights & freedoms, then yes, maybe you can associate them with the truck convoy.

sonick 02-21-2023 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9091245)
I think you're putting words in his mouth. Sonick said he's left wondering whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job. He didn't say he automatically assumes the person is a nutjob.


Why do you have to take it to an extreme? It's all about context. If you come across someone with a flag on their backpack while hiking on a trail, it's probably no big deal. If you encounter someone with a flag with a group protesting about rights & freedoms, then yes, maybe you can associate them with the truck convoy.

Typical use of logical fallacies that conservatives have done so well at training their followers to parrot. I expected nothing more in a coherent response.

https://www.salon.com/2021/07/18/why...ith-the-right/

supafamous 02-21-2023 06:45 AM

https://twitter.com/lukaszukab/statu...bG82s0EfFdTRNg

Canadian Olympic gold medalist Jamie Sale chiming in on which public executions she'd watch on PPV (the list includes Biden, Trudeau, Gates, Soros, Fauci etc).

Sad to see.

68style 02-21-2023 06:56 AM

Pretty ironic, she only got to do what she got to do because of government funding.

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 07:29 AM

Not sure if anyone has been paying attention to the Toronto news but their transit system is basically overrun with violent crime these days, a nice trend sweeping Canada. Crazy what happens when there’s no accountability for your actions.

My friends who live in TO wives won’t even go on the TTC alone anymore due to fear of assault etc. it’s pretty sweet.

I’m sure the legalization of hard drugs will surely improve our current situation!

68style 02-21-2023 07:38 AM

You and my 80 year old mom should talk Honda :D

Traum 02-21-2023 09:23 AM

Based on my understanding on the issue, the violent crime thing in the TO transit system is more like a manifestation of their homelessness / mental health / drug addiction issue. In that sense, it isn't too different than what we are seeing in Vancouver, except that because of the difference in weather, the people in Vancouver do it on the streets / DTES / camp out in parks, whereas in TO, they have to seek actual shelter away from the elements.

For the most part, I think it is an over-reaction at this point to entirely avoid going on the TTC. Literally hundreds of thousands of trips are still being taken everyday on the TTC. Case counts of incidents have steadily been going up from 600-ish cases a year to I think around 900 cases per year now. When you factor that over the millions and trillions of trips in a year, does that make TTC / public transit dangerous in Toronto? You'd want to be aware of your surroundings instead of mindlessly burying your head into your podcast or your phone, and the problem needs to be addressed. But there is no need to make it into a bigger hyperbole than it already is.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091261)
Not sure if anyone has been paying attention to the Toronto news but their transit system is basically overrun with violent crime these days, a nice trend sweeping Canada. Crazy what happens when there’s no accountability for your actions.

My friends who live in TO wives won’t even go on the TTC alone anymore due to fear of assault etc. it’s pretty sweet.

I’m sure the legalization of hard drugs will surely improve our current situation!



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