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The Producer 02-21-2023 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9091253)
https://twitter.com/lukaszukab/statu...bG82s0EfFdTRNg

Canadian Olympic gold medalist Jamie Sale chiming in on which public executions she'd watch on PPV (the list includes Biden, Trudeau, Gates, Soros, Fauci etc).

Sad to see.
poor old Craig Simpson stuck his D in crazy

Manic! 02-21-2023 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9091289)
poor old Craig Simpson stuck his D in crazy
https://twitter.com/hnicsimmer/statu...756096?lang=en

JDął 02-21-2023 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9091245)
I think you're putting words in his mouth. Sonick said he's left wondering whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job. He didn't say he automatically assumes the person is a nutjob.

Why do you have to take it to an extreme? It's all about context. If you come across someone with a flag on their backpack while hiking on a trail, it's probably no big deal. If you encounter someone with a flag with a group protesting about rights & freedoms, then yes, maybe you can associate them with the truck convoy.
He said "Now when I see a flag waving it's tarnished by not knowing whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job." This implies any flag he sees may be "tarnished" to him. If people are obviously in a protest scenario.... then they're in a protest scenario. You're right in that context is important and he didn't provide any.
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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9091252)
Typical use of logical fallacies that conservatives have done so well at training their followers to parrot. I expected nothing more in a coherent response.

https://www.salon.com/2021/07/18/why...ith-the-right/
It's illogical to think anyone showing a Canadian flag might be a "right wing nutjob" as you admit is your train of thought when you see one. That's cynical and sad, but hey it's your life if you want be upset all the time. Awesome irony in this post since you can't produce your own counterpoints and just use emoji's (you've done this twice now) then deflect from the point of the conversation by linking to an article by someone else (parroting) no one is going to read :lol Just explain or back the point you were making man, prove me wrong!
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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9091241)
Uh... no... a bunch of redneck clowns acted like idiots using a symbol of my country and tarnished it.

Let's keep the blame where it belongs.
That's on you, that's a personal opinion. Many millions of Canadians don't agree.




I am defending nothing but the flag. The acts of a few cannot tarnish the national flag of Canada. People behaving poorly, in a protest or otherwise, only tarnish themselves. The national flag is apolitical and supersedes all of that.

inv4zn 02-21-2023 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091303)
I am defending nothing but the flag. The acts of a few cannot tarnish the national flag of Canada. People behaving poorly, in a protest or otherwise, only tarnish themselves. The national flag is apolitical and supersedes all of that.
You are not wrong in your argument, but it is also an unfortunate state of the times in that seeing a small Canadian flag sticker on the back of a Camry does not illicit the same response as a massive flag waving from the back of a lifted truck with Fuck Trudeau stickers all over it.

The Flag, has unfortunately become a vastly different symbol than the one it is meant to stand for. It is no longer apolotical, because rednecks have decided to use it to fit their own stupid motives.

sonick 02-21-2023 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091303)
He said "Now when I see a flag waving it's tarnished by not knowing whether it's truly patriotic or some right wing nut job." This implies any flag he sees may be "tarnished" to him. If people are obviously in a protest scenario.... then they're in a protest scenario. You're right in that context is important and he didn't provide any.

It's illogical to think anyone showing a Canadian flag might be a "right wing nutjob" as you admit is your train of thought when you see one. That's cynical and sad, but hey it's your life if you want be upset all the time. Awesome irony in this post since you can't produce your own counterpoints and just use emoji's (you've done this twice now) then deflect from the point of the conversation by linking to an article by someone else (parroting) no one is going to read :lol Just explain or back the point you were making man, prove me wrong!

That's on you, that's a personal opinion. Many millions of Canadians don't agree.




I am defending nothing but the flag. The acts of a few cannot tarnish the national flag of Canada. People behaving poorly, in a protest or otherwise, only tarnish themselves. The national flag is apolitical and supersedes all of that.
I am glad you caught on. Both times you've forced into the conversation with the clear intent to twist and misconstrue my thoughts and words in attempt to drag the discussion into a mud-slinging rage-fest of illogical rhetoric. To your advice, in both cases I chose not to subject myself to such idiocy and so have simply dignified you with the response it deserved.

Keep baby-raging BabyRage

68style 02-21-2023 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9091303)
That's on you, that's a personal opinion. Many millions of Canadians don't agree.
Many millions?

Uh.......... you saw how many people actually supported that movement right? Do you estimate Trump's crowd sizes for him too?

Badhobz 02-21-2023 01:53 PM
What if… you’re Chinese and you had a cananderrr flag on yerrr bumper ? Does that automatically make me a radical right wing yellowneck ?

Fuck you tru tru !!! I hate you and your socialist policies. Down with big government. Etc etc. less taxes….

:fullofwin:

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 02:11 PM
“Illogical rhetoric”

Posts an opinion piece from a website known for posting pro pedophelia articles

Ok.

unit 02-21-2023 02:12 PM
jd13, do you also think that if a russian flew a huge flag off their car driving down the street that it only represents squatting, adidas, and vodka? also if they had a massive Z on the side of their car that it represents their love for zebras or dragonball? i don't understand how you think context doesn't matter.

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 03:00 PM
Trudeaus soft on crime, tough on legal guns approach seems to be working wonders

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...-dtes-weekend/

Every fucking person they stop on the DTES having illegal, loaded firearms? Lol ffs..

68style 02-21-2023 03:02 PM
I didn't know Trudeau was the mayor of Vancouver or the premiere of BC... weird

Every single person? You mean the 4 they cherry picked for the article out of how many? Bruh...........

inv4zn 02-21-2023 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091351)
Trudeaus soft on crime, tough on legal guns approach seems to be working wonders

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...-dtes-weekend/

Every fucking person they stop on the DTES having illegal, loaded firearms? Lol ffs..
lol, help me understand.

VPD recovering illegal guns after stopping people who were doing illegal things, in the DTES, and this is all Trudeau's doing? What?

How is that different than me blaming Trudeau for my garbage not getting picked up during a blizzard?

SkinnyPupp 02-21-2023 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9091179)
I said that cuz reports just came out that China tried to influence Canadian elections to a Liberal minority. And lo and behold, we have a Liberal minority!

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...sis-documents/

I think it's both ... Russia and China. But don't tell me US doesn't try to influence outcome of other countries toward democracy.
I don't know this source, but here's one report on it. Certainly US is in there as well, with FOX News giving it huge coverage. They're not necessarily trying to "take down Canada", but rather take down people who think progressively. It seems like today's conservatives are having their last death gasps (this could last decades, don't get too excited), and are desperately (and more violently) trying to just grab onto anything they can and rip it down with them. Russia is using that to radicalize them a bit more, and cause more issues, so we end up with the Freedom Convoy and January 6.

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9091352)
I didn't know Trudeau was the mayor of Vancouver or the premiere of BC... weird

Every single person? You mean the 4 they cherry picked for the article out of how many? Bruh...........
Nope but firearms are very much a federal issue.

The fact they can stop multiple people over a single weekend with illegal firearms kind of underlines the complete ineffectiveness of every policy regarding firearm crime brought in by the liberals and also the soft on crime approach that these people who are very clearly repeat, violent, felons can continue to walk the streets with the means to kill people. It’s all very lovely

68style 02-21-2023 03:39 PM
You realize when they put policies in place... that it takes years to enact them and see the results... right?

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 03:53 PM
Care to explain how the policies would have changed these outcomes?

inv4zn 02-21-2023 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091363)
Care to explain how the policies would have changed these outcomes?
I mean, you can't. Nobody can.

But tough on crime also isn't the solution to it all, as you can see down south. Granted they started out with far more problems them we have (even though you may not admit it), but throwing everybody in prison also begets other societal issues.

sonick 02-21-2023 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091343)
“Illogical rhetoric”

Posts an opinion piece from a website known for posting pro pedophelia articles

Ok.
Fair enough, I have not followed Salon.com's recent political leanings and just grabbed the most relevant article, happy to strike that. That said, even without the link my criticism still stands.

He's the one who keeps trying to initiate it me, multiple people can see right through what he's trying to do, idgaf.

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9091364)
I mean, you can't. Nobody can.

But tough on crime also isn't the solution to it all, as you can see down south. Granted they started out with far more problems them we have (even though you may not admit it), but throwing everybody in prison also begets other societal issues.
If carrying around loaded, illegal, guns isn’t enough to do some time, then nothing is.

So I know a guy who has literally HUNDREDS of charges, grew up with the guy he’s still my buddies neighbor. The guy has, in no particular order, stabbed a cab driver, stabbed an undercover cop, been charged with armed Robbery for robbing a cab driver, DOZENS of assault charges, DOZENS of drug charges. Most recently he was dropped off by a cab driver and he tried to rob the cab driver with a gun, the cab driver drove off and called the cops, the cops came and then entered a 10 hour stand off before throwing flash bangs and smoke grenades through the windows and using a robot to knock down the door.

He saw my buddy the other day and he’s like “heh.. all the charges got stayed or else I mighta actually seen some time”

This is the system we live in. He’s not of means, he has no money for decent lawyers, he gets off -every- charge

sdubfid 02-21-2023 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091374)
If carrying around loaded, illegal, guns isn’t enough to do some time, then nothing is.

So I know a guy who has literally HUNDREDS of charges, grew up with the guy he’s still my buddies neighbor. The guy has, in no particular order, stabbed a cab driver, stabbed an undercover cop, been charged with armed Robbery for robbing a cab driver, DOZENS of assault charges, DOZENS of drug charges. Most recently he was dropped off by a cab driver and he tried to rob the cab driver with a gun, the cab driver drove off and called the cops, the cops came and then entered a 10 hour stand off before throwing flash bangs and smoke grenades through the windows and using a robot to knock down the door.

He saw my buddy the other day and he’s like “heh.. all the charges got stayed or else I mighta actually seen some time”

This is the system we live in. He’s not of means, he has no money for decent lawyers, he gets off -every- charge
Good example of the 80/20 rule

20% of criminals cause 80% of crime
20% of left wing nut jobs cause 80% of news stories
20% of right wing nut jobs cause 80% of news stories

inv4zn 02-21-2023 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9091374)
If carrying around loaded, illegal, guns isn’t enough to do some time, then nothing is.

So I know a guy who has literally HUNDREDS of charges, grew up with the guy he’s still my buddies neighbor. The guy has, in no particular order, stabbed a cab driver, stabbed an undercover cop, been charged with armed Robbery for robbing a cab driver, DOZENS of assault charges, DOZENS of drug charges. Most recently he was dropped off by a cab driver and he tried to rob the cab driver with a gun, the cab driver drove off and called the cops, the cops came and then entered a 10 hour stand off before throwing flash bangs and smoke grenades through the windows and using a robot to knock down the door.

He saw my buddy the other day and he’s like “heh.. all the charges got stayed or else I mighta actually seen some time”

This is the system we live in. He’s not of means, he has no money for decent lawyers, he gets off -every- charge
If true, that's repulsive - but why is he getting off on every single one?

Hondaracer 02-21-2023 06:47 PM
It’s not because of his intellect I’ll tell ya that much.

I can only assume that is how the system works. As I said he has no one to fight for him, no money for a lawyer, etc. a well known chronic criminal. And gets off every single time.

He was also involved in a massive car accident which claimed the life of a young father of a family with two young kids etc. surprise surprise everyone in the car was drinking and blew a stop sign. A real gem

supafamous 02-21-2023 07:08 PM
https://globalnews.ca/news/9483836/1...monton-canada/

Anyone following the insane QAnon style nuttiness around "15 min cities"? They think it means that people will be forced to live within an area that's 15 mins away from them (basically Hunger Games districts). The nuts are going on about how the Libs are taking away their right (and desire) to drive 45 mins to take their kids to school or to get to work.

Traum 02-21-2023 07:22 PM
Why am I not surprised that this type of idiotic protesting is happening in redneck Alberta again???

Mikoyan 02-21-2023 11:41 PM
Interior BC too. I was speaking with a client and they went off at the end of our conversation about the 15 min cities.


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