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Infiniti 04-05-2023 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9094696)
Yea I wish we could have a “real” smart guy like Turd in power

What he lacks in being "smart" he makes up for by surrounding himself with smart people.

Hondaracer 04-05-2023 06:59 AM

Lol!

Hondaracer 04-05-2023 11:33 AM

Finally someone has some fucking balls to deal with the DTES

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...east-hastings/

If being provided with inside accommodations isn’t enough for you, then there probably isn’t anything that’s going to be good enough. Make it a crime to setup an encampment on the streets.

I can’t stress this enough, there is -nowhere- I’ve been that looks as bad has as many people littering the streets at Vancouver, it’s fucking embarrassing

Infiniti 04-05-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9094965)
Finally someone has some fucking balls to deal with the DTES

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...east-hastings/

If being provided with inside accommodations isn’t enough for you, then there probably isn’t anything that’s going to be good enough. Make it a crime to setup an encampment on the streets.

I can’t stress this enough, there is -nowhere- I’ve been that looks as bad has as many people littering the streets at Vancouver, it’s fucking embarrassing

You realize they will just go elsewhere. Mind you, i'd be down for West Van, Richmond or Langley to have a go.

GLOW 04-05-2023 11:53 AM

he did say he has his objectives and when complete he'll leave

i guess that allows him the freedom to be inclined to do things and not worry about having to win the popular vote.

i've noticed street disorder increased exponentially during the last few years of the pandemic... where did the influx of people come from?

westopher 04-05-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9094965)
Finally someone has some fucking balls to deal with the DTES

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...east-hastings/

If being provided with inside accommodations isn’t enough for you, then there probably isn’t anything that’s going to be good enough. Make it a crime to setup an encampment on the streets.

I can’t stress this enough, there is -nowhere- I’ve been that looks as bad has as many people littering the streets at Vancouver, it’s fucking embarrassing

This is the same thing Kennedy Stewart did 8 months ago, then the VPD walked away from it because of the threats of violence. It's great if it happens, but this isn't some new cutting edge approach. It's just words until it's done, like all the times prior.

Hondaracer 04-05-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 9094969)
You realize they will just go elsewhere. Mind you, i'd be down for West Van, Richmond or Langley to have a go.

They’ve created hundreds of new rooms, actual INDOOR accommodations etc.

They have also been now providing funding for the re-offenders etc. and an avenue to deal with that (ironically I know one of the first people to he trained under the new ‘chronic repeat offender’ system so I will have a first hand view of what’s going on with that)

If you resist being taken off the streets where you’re starting fires and filling your tents with weapons and whatnot because you can’t be a functioning part of society, then you’re better off in jail or dead.

The amount of violent crime and civil disobedience here is fucking insane, and of course with zero repercussions for one’s actions this is all just going to continue. Force people off the streets, if they can’t assimilate then lock them up period

Why should any of us have to be victims to this shit

Infiniti 04-05-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9094974)
They’ve created hundreds of new rooms, actual INDOOR accommodations etc.

They have also been now providing funding for the re-offenders etc. and an avenue to deal with that (ironically I know one of the first people to he trained under the new ‘chronic repeat offender’ system so I will have a first hand view of what’s going on with that)

If you resist being taken off the streets where you’re starting fires and filling your tents with weapons and whatnot because you can’t be a functioning part of society, then you’re better off in jail or dead.

The amount of violent crime and civil disobedience here is fucking insane, and of course with zero repercussions for one’s actions this is all just going to continue. Force people off the streets, if they can’t assimilate then lock them up period

Why should any of us have to be victims to this shit

That's great and all, but this isn't a permanent solution and you know it. They'll scatter for a few days and be right back setting up shop. In other words, I am not arguing with you, I'm just pointing out that this will only serve as temporary reprieve from the current situation.Soon enough, we will be back to watching the war zone unfolding in the DTES.

whitev70r 04-05-2023 12:59 PM

They've removed a large number of them already, I assume individuals have taken the offer to move to a housing option (whether it be an SRO or something else). It seems like this is to remove the last bunch who are the real hardcore, extremists, or mentally ill individuals who refuse any kind of housing alternative. I feel they (city, police, social workers, etc.) have done a fair, compassionate job in this.

Great68 04-05-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 9094978)
That's great and all, but this isn't a permanent solution and you know it. They'll scatter for a few days and be right back setting up shop. In other words, I am not arguing with you, I'm just pointing out that this will only serve as temporary reprieve from the current situation.Soon enough, we will be back to watching the war zone unfolding in the DTES.

IMO multiple dispersed small camps are better than one large camp. The dangers internal to the camp, as well as the external impacts on the local areas are much less severe.

The city just needs to have the fortitude to rout them before they get a foothold again.

mikemhg 04-05-2023 05:28 PM

Broken Windows Theory is real.

The clean up is long overdue, you can't address the criminality without addressing the utter filth and decline of the area from an aesthetic perspective first.

westopher 04-05-2023 06:02 PM

It's going to be very hard to lure businesses back to the area, especially with the decline in demand for commercial space.
No businesses, no traffic, no reason for people to go there, back to no rules.

Hondaracer 04-05-2023 06:14 PM

How about just enforce the ones we currently have?

Obviously no one wants to be right in the DTES, but as I’ve said before, my wife’s company moved from Homer and Pender due to the situation, office space leasing is down 20%+ through the downtown core. Granville etc. looks like a third world country.

Clean this shit up.

westopher 04-05-2023 06:18 PM

I'd bet there's more homeless than VPD by a long shot. As I said, this has already been tried. Let's see if the cops don't have to walk away again.

Hondaracer 04-05-2023 06:23 PM

https://i.imgur.com/P2IwTRS.jpg

This sack of shit..

westopher 04-05-2023 06:53 PM

So what did he actually say? Or are screenshots from a fine media outlet like dailyhive good enough?

whitev70r 04-05-2023 07:31 PM

Here you go ...


Hondaracer 04-05-2023 08:37 PM

Absolutely pathetic by someone like him who is a huge cause of much of the current scene there. So fucking gross.

highfive 04-06-2023 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9095027)
Absolutely pathetic by someone like him who is a huge cause of much of the current scene there. So fucking gross.

All politicians are like that. He's working on his next job. Probably run for MLA / MP or some shit. When he was mayor, he was no where. Now he has all the time in the world to say shit.

Maybe tell him to pay that small business he owes money to first. lol

CivicBlues 04-07-2023 09:54 AM

Funny thing is, his last job before Mayor was as a Federal NDP MP.

donk. 04-07-2023 12:21 PM

I guess Kennedy does not support the HIC clean up
Spoiler!

Hondaracer 04-07-2023 12:22 PM

Wasn’t he the one who hired the private security at Vancouver house to fucking push the homeless people away from his building?

whitev70r 04-10-2023 04:22 PM

So what is the big deal about Katie Telford, JT's chief of staff, testifying about Foreign Interference. Why did Libs not want her to do that?

Traum 04-10-2023 09:41 PM

I am not super up-to-date on the story, but I seem to remember reading that CSIS and/or RCMP saying that they have briefed Turdeau on the foreign interference in the last federal election, but Turdeau has claimed in front of the camera in Parliament that he has never been briefed on something like that. Naturally, those things don't add up.

With Telford being Turdeau's Chief of Staff, obviously she is expected to know stuff -- at least when it comes to what materials get through to Turdeau. Turdeau and the Libs would of course not want her to talk.

westopher 04-11-2023 01:10 PM

Not sure if this really fits here, but seems it kinda does.
How fucked is it that the head of one of the worst police services in the country can make this kind of money. Does he receive a controversy bonus every time something illegal or immoral happens within his department?
His 3 deputy chiefs are paid more than other Canadian chiefs. Maybe this is what people are talking about with the "defund the police" movement. Not closing the police store.
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Palmer’s $493,932 in earnings suggest he was the highest paid leader of a municipal police department in Canada in 2022.
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/l...n-2022-6779603


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