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68style 04-25-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9097139)
We do, but In Canada we also have mechanisms in place to hold violent offenders until their trials, the problem is that the courts aren't properly assessing and holding these people.

That's a good point... BUT... that time counts as double time when they're sentenced... and if I had to guess, the judge knows they won't get much time for the crime anyway, and if the holding time until some trial way far away is counting as double time, they may even owe the person days.

Whole system needs an efficiency revamp.

Hondaracer 04-25-2023 04:00 PM

Here ya go, from today.. these are cases of repeat offenders who BROKE EXISTING BAIL CONDITIONS! Lol what in the fuck..

https://i.imgur.com/eJ4UClj.jpg

And.. as I’ve said all along.. the feds are responsible for this..

https://www.cheknews.ca/b-c-crown-sa...s-1149846/?amp

The bail laws are the federal govt.

Trudeau more concerned with Ukraine and other BS than repeat violent offenders stabbing people on transit or non-stop random violent assaults lol.. we’re circling the toilet bowl here. It’s VERY MUCH an issue this isn’t some isolated over blown media thing.

sonick 04-26-2023 02:18 PM


The PNE is building a brand new, state-of-the-art outdoor Amphitheatre with a capacity of approximately 10,000.

Not sure how much (if all of it?) is gov't funded.

As if parking there was not a bitch already.

GLOW 04-26-2023 05:47 PM

good or bad, under his rule seems like he's doing stuff that makes headlines right out the gates

increase tax 12%
'clean up' dtes
ampitheatre
etc

tbh i can't recall what the previous mayor has done other than sit at a table of over 6 on a patio when there were restrictions ... oh and turn stanley park in to a big bike lane during the lockdown

still haven't heard anything (and still very worried) about how he plans to roll out his 3-3-3 permitting magic

Hondaracer 04-26-2023 06:05 PM

With actual measurable statistics as well regarding the cleanup of the DTES etc.

As I’ve always said, don’t mind paying a bit more in tax if you actually get somthing out of it other than govt. bloat

westopher 04-26-2023 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9097206)
https://twitter.com/KenSimCity/statu...06701658935296

The PNE is building a brand new, state-of-the-art outdoor Amphitheatre with a capacity of approximately 10,000.

Not sure how much (if all of it?) is gov't funded.

As if parking there was not a bitch already.

This is fantastic news, even if it's 100% taxpayer funded. Vancouver music scene is hilariously lacking for a city that claims to be interested in the arts, and there are great transit options to get you there. Money to be made, fun to be had. Shit like this is what makes world class cities. Not a bunch of empty glass towers.

whitev70r 04-26-2023 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9097206)

As if parking there was not a bitch already.

Love the ghetto parking in Hastings area ... gotta to give the elderly Asian ladies some extra income around the year.

GLOW 04-28-2023 08:58 AM

that's called trickle down economics LUL

whitev70r 04-28-2023 11:38 AM

So Mike Farnsworth came out with his report and a strong recommendation for Surrey ... continue with transition to Surrey Police Force with good reason. RCMP forces are chronically understaffed, stretched, this would take RCMP officers from rural needed areas to serve Surrey.

Karen mayor in Surrey vows to keep the RCMP force ...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...sion-1.6824051

Hondaracer 04-28-2023 11:58 AM

Echoed my sentiments, how am I so smart?

:troll:

Great68 04-28-2023 12:21 PM

What's so crazy is that Brenda Locke was first elected to Surrey Council as part of the Safe Surrey Coalition (with Doug McCallum) in 2018, which campaigned on the promise of forming the Surrey Police Force.

That coalition won 7 out 8 councillor seats plus mayor, which to me seems like the people of Surrey gave the party a pretty clear mandate to form Surrey PD.

Now 5 years later she's gone 180 and claimed the people of surrey don't want Surrey PD?

What a joke. Good call Farnsworth.

Hondaracer 04-28-2023 12:23 PM

She ran on the notion of anti-McCalum rather than actual reality

Great68 04-28-2023 12:25 PM

Yeah and she barely beat him, like less than 1000 votes (<1%)

whitev70r 04-28-2023 12:26 PM

Rightfully so ... McCallum was going senile but this Karen mayor is just as nutz in other ways.

westopher 04-28-2023 04:23 PM

Lol she's just bizarro mccallum. Senile old lady instead of senile old man. Enjoy that 16% tax hike to have your police service get jackets that say Surrey instead of canada.

Hondaracer 04-28-2023 05:26 PM

Surrey > Canada

westopher 04-28-2023 06:04 PM

Lol remember when mccallum said he was going to flood the streets of Surrey so they could travel by boat like in Venice?

Hondaracer 04-28-2023 07:46 PM

Can’t setup a tent on a canal

westopher 04-28-2023 07:48 PM

They'd just build a garbage barge.

GLOW 05-01-2023 09:10 AM

based on what she's saying...they're going to go ahead with no federal funding had they continue with RCMP, does that mean they need even more $, or was the 16% tax hike going to fund that?

Hehe 05-01-2023 10:25 AM

TBH, as a Surrey resident, I don't get this zero sum mentality.

The whole idea that they wanted RCMP back was because Surrey Police didn't have enough preparation in place and would potentially lead to unsafe neighborhoods as police are understaffed.

Why not do a combination of the 2? As Surrey grows to become the most populous city in BC in 2030, having our own police force wouldn't be a bad idea. And since there was already a huge investment into starting a new Surrey police force, why not flow with it but this time, do it better? Announce something like we are keeping the RCMP (fulfilling the campaign promise), but we will ultimately phase out in 10-15years.

Start with one of the 6 communities in Surrey, Say Whalley or whatever, and have Surrey police force to start there. Concentrate the funding to Surrey Police's training and establish a model. Then work your way out. Every 2yrs or so, a new community is added to the Surrey Police. And any shortcomings or problems can be addressed prior of any expansion. And the idea is that ultimately, when the whole transition is done, Surrey Police would be properly trained, staffed, and funded.

whitev70r 05-01-2023 10:30 AM

^ that's actually a pretty good idea to gradually phase it in instead of all SPD or RCMP.

But one of the key reasons Farnsworth named was the chronic short staffing of RCMP officers and to go back to RCMP for Surrey would mean the sacrifice of some rural areas. Why doesn't the head of RCMP just say, no thanks, we don't want to come back and do Surrey, we don't have enough resources. Wouldn't that solve the stalemate?

Hondaracer 05-01-2023 11:16 AM

Because it would highlight how inept the RCMP really is

Manic! 05-01-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9097731)
Because it would highlight how inept the RCMP really is

Like the VPD is any better?

Great68 05-01-2023 02:08 PM

Seems so crazy to me that Oak Bay has its own police force, for 18,000 people, and a location that has bascially no meaningful geographical separation from Victoria and Saanich (which also have their own muncipal forces) yet Surrey with 500k people is still RCMP.


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