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68style 05-01-2023 02:40 PM

So does Burnaby and Burnaby is huge!

Surrey is great training ground for RCMP noobs from depot haha

Hondaracer 05-03-2023 07:49 AM

So now that we have King Charles, every single flag, piece of stationary, logo, etc. that displays the queens crown now has to be changed to reflect King Charles crown.

That will be a good use of tax payer dollars

Traum 05-03-2023 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9097906)
So now that we have King Charles, every single flag, piece of stationary, logo, etc. that displays the queens crown now has to be changed to reflect King Charles crown.

That will be a good use of tax payer dollars

It's the cost of doing business, not to mention that the last time this was really necessary, it was some 44+ years ago (when QE II stepped into her role). Do you see restaurants complaining every time they need to update their menus? Or in our Canadian governments' case, how Ministries need to spend money for this exact same purpose every time it get restructured?

As the saying goes, there are bigger fishes to catch if you want to cut down on government waste.

sonick 05-03-2023 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9097935)
It's the cost of doing business, not to mention that the last time this was really necessary, it was some 44+ years ago (when QE II stepped into her role). Do you see restaurants complaining every time they need to update their menus? Or in our Canadian governments' case, how Ministries need to spend money for this exact same purpose every time it get restructured?

As the saying goes, there are bigger fishes to catch if you want to cut down on government waste.

lol I was gonna say, if you are looking for issues with the monarchy, having to update our money is very, VERY low on the list.

68style 05-03-2023 10:07 AM

No Liz on the money no mo? What the heck am I supposed to spank to now FeelsBadMan

westopher 05-03-2023 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9097935)
It's the cost of doing business, not to mention that the last time this was really necessary, it was some 44+ years ago (when QE II stepped into her role). Do you see restaurants complaining every time they need to update their menus? Or in our Canadian governments' case, how Ministries need to spend money for this exact same purpose every time it get restructured?

As the saying goes, there are bigger fishes to catch if you want to cut down on government waste.

Taxpayers don't pay for me to update my menus. We spend that money based on our decisions.
The monarchy is a leech on taxpayers across the colonies. The worlds richest welfare recipients.

Hondaracer 05-03-2023 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9097935)
It's the cost of doing business, not to mention that the last time this was really necessary, it was some 44+ years ago (when QE II stepped into her role). Do you see restaurants complaining every time they need to update their menus? Or in our Canadian governments' case, how Ministries need to spend money for this exact same purpose every time it get restructured?

As the saying goes, there are bigger fishes to catch if you want to cut down on government waste.

Bigger fish to cash beside completely irrelevant spending?

Literally zero need for this. Zero

Hehe 05-03-2023 11:36 AM

It honestly isn't anything to complain. The drawing used on our notes gets updated from time to time as well. It's not like there's a huge one-time cost. The cost of making designs are already factored into in RC Mint's budget.

So the only difference is that instead of doing a new one on QEII, it's one for King Charles.

If anything, it'd be official documents that has already been printed, things like for immigration and what not that are handed out to many and are printed ahead of time. Those need to be discarded and written off.

But as far as our dollar note goes, the cost is really minimum.

whitev70r 05-03-2023 11:39 AM

I don't think it's just the reprinting of new bills, it's the WHOLE damn monarchy thing that we have to foot from our taxes including: Lieutenant Governor General ... remember that really good one, Payette? Her/his salary, house, expenses, etc. PLUS, LG of every frickin province and all the expenses incurred from that.

Hondaracer 05-03-2023 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9097967)
It honestly isn't anything to complain. The drawing used on our notes gets updated from time to time as well. It's not like there's a huge one-time cost. The cost of making designs are already factored into in RC Mint's budget.

So the only difference is that instead of doing a new one on QEII, it's one for King Charles.

If anything, it'd be official documents that has already been printed, things like for immigration and what not that are handed out to many and are printed ahead of time. Those need to be discarded and written off.

But as far as our dollar note goes, the cost is really minimum.


The money is nothing, they will just reprint it as they normally would.

Literally -anything- in circulation with the queens crown on it has to be replaced. Books, flags, plaques, etc.

Armed forces uninforms, vehicle labelling etc. EVERYTHING

MarkyMark 05-03-2023 11:52 AM

Watch him croak a year after they change everything and they have to do it all over again

underscore 05-03-2023 12:01 PM

It seems like a good excuse to just change it to a generic symbol and leave it. Like a crown or something.

Manic! 05-03-2023 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9097973)
It seems like a good excuse to just change it to a generic symbol and leave it. Like a crown or something.

I don't think we legally can. Canada is a constitutional monarchy.

underscore 05-03-2023 01:01 PM

I know we're stuck legally linked to the ̶f̶r̶e̶e̶l̶o̶a̶d̶e̶r̶s̶ monarchy but surely there's no requirement that things have to depict Liz or Chuck specifically on things?

westopher 05-03-2023 01:22 PM

The only way it's worth it is if the new logo is his sausage fingers.

Hondaracer 05-03-2023 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9097987)
I know we're stuck legally linked to the ̶f̶r̶e̶e̶l̶o̶a̶d̶e̶r̶s̶ monarchy but surely there's no requirement that things have to depict Liz or Chuck specifically on things?

My wife works with a guy who is like an encyclopedia on the monarchy and he said every country has a huge obligation to change everything with the symbol. Even semi private organizations such as Legions etc. are suppose to change everything

whitev70r 05-03-2023 02:31 PM

King Charles made a slight change to the coronation wording ... yah, no not me!

King Charles changes key piece of coronation, causing mixed feelings
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/king-ch...20that%20role.

King Charles has made a controversial change to one tradition surrounding the coronation of a new monarch. What has traditionally been called "homage of the peers" will now be "homage of the people."

Charles asks anyone watching to say: "I will pay true allegiance to your majesty and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

People have mixed emotions about the move, with some calling it tone-deaf and others welcoming the opportunity to be included.
Instead of hereditary peers swearing an oath to him when he's crowned on Saturday, he's asked the public to take that role.

Infiniti 05-04-2023 06:07 AM

Canada should send Charles a gift to mark the occasion

https://cdn.britannica.com/27/194327...Revolution.jpg

Traum 05-04-2023 12:13 PM

https://globalnews.ca/news/9665567/f...chong-threats/

Quote:

The MP [Michael Chong] released a statement after the Globe and Mail reported, citing a top-secret document and an anonymous national security source, that China’s intelligence service sought to target the MP and his family and that a Chinese diplomat who remains in Canada was involved.

Chong, a former cabinet minister, currently serves as the Tories’ foreign-affairs critic and routinely criticizes the regime in Beijing for its human-rights record and its alleged attempts to meddle in Canada’s affairs.

Chong said the Canadian Security Intelligence Service never briefed him about any threats made against him or his family, adding he believes that is because Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s office did not authorize such a warning.

“The Trudeau government continuing to accredit and allow a (Chinese) diplomat to remain in Canada to target my family abroad demonstrates a complete lack of leadership and common decency.”
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cana...hong-1.6383908

Quote:

Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly said Thursday she asked her deputy minister to tell Chinese Ambassador Cong Peiwu that Canada will not tolerate any form of foreign interference in its affairs.

Joly confirmed media reports that the Canadian Security Intelligence Service believes a diplomat working out of China's Toronto consulate had targeted Conservative MP Michael Chong and his relatives in Hong Kong, due to his criticism of Beijing's human-rights record.
It goes without saying that I fxxking hate PeePee's guts, but the way Turd / Libs had handled this, and how they continue to handle this -- ie. without expelling the Chinese ambassador's a$$ -- is completely unacceptable. All that is happening now is -- this POS Chinese ambassador gets summoned by the Lib gov, with Turd / Libs wagging a finger at him telling him not to do this again.

WTF?! Expel his a$$ already! :rukidding:

Hondaracer 05-04-2023 02:32 PM

Also people within the liberal govt. continually refuse to answer questions regarding the interference

68style 05-04-2023 03:02 PM

Not that they should avoid incurring any wrath, but has any politician ever directly answered to anything ever?

I feel like that's being surprised about water being wet lol

Great68 05-04-2023 05:49 PM

No doubt. Yeah the Harper conservatives totally, genuinely, and succinctly answered ever question that came their way when they were in power. lol

whitev70r 05-08-2023 01:11 PM

Finally ... after all the publicity and public pressure!

Canada expelling diplomat accused of targeting MP Michael Chong's family

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...omat-1.6836336

murd0c 05-08-2023 01:13 PM

its pathetic it took them this long, right when they found out they should of kicked him out of the country.

pastarocket 05-08-2023 01:23 PM

The government works at snail's pace in trying to complete every kind of work, including expelling foreign diplomats. I am not surprised it took the Turd and the Liberals this long to make a decision.

Were the Liberals discussing the potential ramifications of expelling that diplomat quickly?

Did Turd think that the Chinese government would retaliate in response to the expulsion of one of their diplomats out of Canada?

The Chinese government may still do in retaliation. That sort of behaviour we have seen before when Canada was caught in the fiasco of that Huawei CFO being detained in Vancouver while the US did an investigation into Ms. Meng's shady work.

We all know what happened after that with the Chinese government detaining the two Michaels for 1020 days under the false charges of espionage.

I am wondering if the Chinese government would retaliate in response to this decision by expelling a Canadian diplomat. :considered:


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