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08-14-2023, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by unit  PP says he wants to build more housing by cutting out the 'gatekeepers' which i guess means permitting and that sort of thing. is this even the real issue to why our supply is low?
if my memory serves me right, housing was doing just fine until the pandemic came along. lumber skyrocketed as well as other building supplies, container costs were through the roof and shipping delays were super long. labour shortage happened, then interest rates went up so high nobody wanted to start any new projects.
i seriously doubt PP can solve these global issues with just removing gatekeepers to help builders build. it may be one part of the solution but he makes it sound like housing supply he can simply fix with this one trick.
whether or not he curbs immigration is something we have to wait and see for ourselves, but he has not been clear on it, probably because he doesn't want to seem anti-immigration or 'racist'.
if you asked me a few years ago i would have definitely said he didn't have a chance, but now i think he honestly does. the problem is that he is not really that likeable, he is just another boring establishment candidate. about as forgettable as andrew scheer. | The problem is whenever Conservatives say they'll cut "red tape" it simply means legal corruption.
Look no further to the scandal that's coming out of Doug Ford's Conservative government in relation to the green belt initiative. More corruption and handouts to robber barons, who care nothing about creating affordable housing for all.
The BC Liberals also pushed through similar corrupt polices here in BC, which if anything has created many of the problems we're dealing with in this province today.
My confidence is very low on these guys.
EDIT: Traum already touched on that fact before I read his post.
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08-14-2023, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style That is literally the only way. Government funded and managed... there is no private enterprise on this planet that is going to sell or rent housing to anyone for less than market value.
Publicly funded is the only answer. | I totally agree.
Part of me wonders what happened to our countries? This problem is in the US as well.
Why were these governments so willing and able to attack these massive problems within our countries back in the 60s and 70s? From infrastructure to housing, the federal government in both countries were able to pass through these sweeping initiatives to raise the standard of living for their entire country.
Once the 80s and 90s came around both countries decimated investment in public goods. Nowadays the Fed in either country can barely build a damn bridge or other type of infrastructure upgrade without fiscal pushback.
This idea of Reganomics has really left a lasting impact all the way to today, it's amazing just how far we've deviated in sane public policy here.
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08-14-2023, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style That is literally the only way. Government funded and managed... there is no private enterprise on this planet that is going to sell or rent housing to anyone for less than market value.
Publicly funded is the only answer. | I don't like the idea of government housing because at the core of it, it means taxpayers are on the hook to subsidize everyone else. And in most cases, the taxpayers bearing the brunt of the burden are gonna be the ever-shrinking middle class (and spilling over to the working class). But as 68 is saying, this is literally the only way to make housing accessible now.
On the other hand, having a municipal gov to take this on is entirely the wrong approach. For one thing, the scale that a city would be able to take on is far too small. Furthermore, with municipal govs not being allowed to run deficit budgets (at least in BC), it severely limits the financial capacity of the program, which means it really can't do very much.
Ideally, it should really be a provincial program, in collaboration with municipal governments.
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08-14-2023, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemhg This idea of Reganomics has really left a lasting impact all the way to today, it's amazing just how far we've deviated in sane public policy here. | Thissss. In this day and age can really trust a corporation to truly pass on tax savings and benefit to their employees?
Trickle down economics is a fucking pipe dream.
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08-14-2023, 03:42 PM
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This shows you how feckless Trudeau is on the topic of federal funding for housing. Back in May he promised renewed and further funding from the feds for housing, to be rolled out this fall: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...ture-1.6856234
Fast forward to August of this year to which he then pivots to the idea that housing is not a federal issue? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...nces-1.6924290
Am I missing something here?
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08-14-2023, 04:12 PM
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Turd is literally digging his own grave. He can easily score some brownie points in Ontario if he orders the Environment Minster to shut down the Green Belt projects, but so far, he has not shown any indication to intervene. And now he flip-flops on a promise to address housing, which is the current hot button issue in at least the 3 biggest Canadian cities?
I wonder what his advisors are telling him these days, and how he plans on chasing that double digit gap behind the Conservatives...
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08-14-2023, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Traum I wonder what his advisors are telling him these days, and how he plans on chasing that double digit gap behind the Conservatives... | His advisors SHOULD tell him to step down and have a leadership race for the Libs. It's the ONLY chance they have and could pull off an upset if they choose the next leader wisely.
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08-14-2023, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r His advisors SHOULD tell him to step down and have a leadership race for the Libs. It's the ONLY chance they have and could pull off an upset if they choose the next leader wisely. | He has defeated 3 con leaders. He feels invincible. 
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08-14-2023, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! He has defeated 3 con leaders. He feels invincible. | OMG this guy LOLOLOL. Gonna be a fun federal election...
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08-15-2023, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! He has defeated 3 con leaders. He feels invincible. | your critique of PP is weak ... there are far more substantial arguments against PP. Post up a picture of yourself 15 yrs ago and see if we all think you look like a dork. Hell post up a pic of yourself now and let's see.
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08-15-2023, 07:41 AM
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08-15-2023, 09:04 AM
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#4962 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Lol @ Manic still convinced that Justin actually gives a shit about anyone
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08-15-2023, 09:50 AM
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I find it odd that anyone who knows how the Canadian government operates thinks that any individual as the PM really can take the credit or the blame for anything going on in this country. This is decades of policy from liberals and cons that put us in this financial mess.
I read an article that says the current government is the FIRST federal government to even draft up a Canadian housing policy. This needed to be done decades ago. If you're 40 and you are in certain situations in your life, good or bad, you can be sure that a lot of them were dictated by decisions you made in your 20s.
Whoever gets in whether it's cons or Libs next round, we are going to watch another decade going by with the same things happening. Switch out Trudeau for any other leader for the liberals for the last 8 years and results would have been nearly identical. Individual politicians are just representatives for the parties at large.
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08-15-2023, 09:59 AM
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It's kind of tired, I distinctly remember when I was younger that people talked about discussing things with their local representative, etc. I don't know if they're just less accessible nowadays or if people are just lazy and it's easier to sit back and say "Fuck 'insert figurehead here'"
The only people who vote for Trudeau are the ones in his constituency. Everyone else elected someone they can and should access if they care sooooo much. Also, if people knew much about how their government operates (I'm sure everyone says they do, but very few actually do) the PM is just the mouthpiece and final sign-off on some things here and there. Everything is delegated and, if they're a good manager, they're operating and actioning things on advice from their ministers who supposedly did a lot of due diligence.
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08-15-2023, 10:15 AM
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#4965 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Oh there’s blame enough to go around with the entire Liberal cabinet.
Also it’s kind of rich when it comes to Canadian politics it’s a group effort, but there is this raging hard on for trump politics and trump only. Like he is the entirety of his party.
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08-15-2023, 10:42 AM
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What people should be asking, perhaps even moreso than if their elected representative is in the majority party, is what is their representative doing when they're NOT in the majority party?
Are they just sitting there every day coming up with memes or ways to insult the current establishment? Or are they trying to work on stuff that might move their constituent's concerns forward in a collaborative manner that could benefit everyone even from a position of non-confidence?
I think being an elected member of the opposition party nowadays has become like a free pass to do fuck all for 4 years the way things are currently set up. They just go in and decide to be a professional heckler no matter whether they agree or not with what's going on.
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08-15-2023, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Oh there’s blame enough to go around with the entire Liberal cabinet.
Also it’s kind of rich when it comes to Canadian politics it’s a group effort, but there is this raging hard on for trump politics and trump only. Like he is the entirety of his party. | You aren't paying attention if you think trump specifically is being blamed for how shitty the Republican Party is. Anyone who isn't a potato is criticizing cunts like boebert and McConnell just as much. They just get heard less when they attack people than a pseudo celebrity.
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08-15-2023, 11:15 AM
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Don't forget Greene, Cruz, Desantis, Gaetz...
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08-15-2023, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r your critique of PP is weak ... there are far more substantial arguments against PP. Post up a picture of yourself 15 yrs ago and see if we all think you look like a dork. Hell post up a pic of yourself now and let's see. | Have you seen the movie? In the movie Damon Wayans plays a boxer that has beaten everyone and can't find an opponent. They find the only guy to ever beat him, a white rock star who beat him as an amateur. They hype up the white guy as the second coming and Damon Wayans character as being lazy and out of shape. People start believing the rock star can win and start betting on him. The match happens and Damon Wayans charter knocks him out in the first round.
Just like Damon Wayans character JT is a minority because he is half Cuban.
PP is the lastest hype. I cannot vote for a person who used racism and fear to try to win an election.
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08-15-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Just like Damon Wayans character JT is a minority because he is half Cuban.
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08-15-2023, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Have you seen the movie? In the movie Damon Wayans plays a boxer that has beaten everyone and can't find an opponent. They find the only guy to ever beat him, a white rock star who beat him as an amateur. They hype up the white guy as the second coming and Damon Wayans character as being lazy and out of shape. People start believing the rock star can win and start betting on him. The match happens and Damon Wayans charter knocks him out in the first round.
Just like Damon Wayans character JT is a minority because he is half Cuban.
PP is the lastest hype. I cannot vote for a person who used racism and fear to try to win an election. | But you can vote for a guy who’s worn black face more times than he can even recount?
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08-15-2023, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer But you can vote for a guy who’s worn black face more times than he can even recount? | Can we drop this one already?
I'm black and I don't give a fuck he did black face, no one does outside of white Con voters grasping for straws.
Intent is EVERYTHING.
To JT's credit, he's never shown be to be a racist, not with his words, or his policy.
If anything the black face was simply poor taste in a time where doing such a thing was less frowned upon.
Prince Harry wore a Nazi costume for Halloween one year, I don't think anyone would think he's an actual racist. His lifetime actions would prove such.
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08-15-2023, 03:10 PM
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Obviously I realize that, it’s just very ironic coming from Manic, which I guess shouldn’t be a surprise.
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Trudeau as Damon Wayans in the Great White Hype is the best shit I've read on here in awhile
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Lol @ Manic still convinced that Justin actually gives a shit about anyone | Any you think PP does. He doesn't even care about his family. His dad is a gay married man. PP voted against gay marriage. Rumour is his dad was in the house of commons when he voted. He also barley mentions his fathers husband and calls him his partner.
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