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68style 08-31-2023 10:11 AM

Well then the Cons are at fault for being in power and lowering interest rates to almost 0 and making it super easy to borrow money here and the Conservative Party again for creating the Quebec Immigrant Investor program loophole in 1985.

Though it's hard for me to complain personally about it, my family got pretty rich thanks to property value increases and I think your potential move to Portugal is greased by a similar program and enabled by the same enrichment? :)

Too bad for all the poor fucks born after us though... oops

Great68 08-31-2023 10:18 AM

In hindsight I wish I got in on the 0-down 40 year mortgage train the cons put in place in early 2008...

But yeah, kinda hypocritical to slam the liberals for pushing cheap money in 2020, when you know, a freaking pandemic was going on, and not mention cheap money in 2008

68style 08-31-2023 10:18 AM

As an interesting aside, I can't seem to find it right now, but there's a podcast (US based) I listened to the other day and it was talking about how a lot of inflation is largely mental and part of the reason they work so hard to try and keep it down with interest rates is because once it establishes itself at a certain % it's literally impossible to penetrate the social fabric to bring it back down again once everyone collectively kind of just decides that it's at a certain amount.

Pretty fascinating stuff about how a lot of it just isn't real.

Hondaracer 08-31-2023 10:27 AM

Well yea, why would Loblaws and companies like that ever lower prices once people become accustomed to their new reality, regardless of what their costs are

The only real thing that keeps companies like that in check are that they are publicly traded and their profits are visible to all. Although, in North American society people seem to be largely pushovers or indifferent to stuff like that.

Traum 08-31-2023 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9107984)
But yeah, kinda hypocritical to slam the liberals for pushing cheap money in 2020, when you know, a freaking pandemic was going on, and not mention cheap money in 2008

That is literally what all opposition political parties and politicians do, and it is amazing so many people don't see thru this BS and hypocrisy.

Hondaracer 09-01-2023 08:32 AM

CRA fires 120 employees for taking CERB while employed by the CRA..

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...fits-pandemic/

Lol.. like.. -everything- is a joke.

Next time anything like cerb or interest free loans roll around, make sure you get yours.

GLOW 09-01-2023 09:20 AM

to risk what i assume is a very nice job in terms of pay/benefits for i'm not sure how much cerb was, but i assume not too much, 1 check for a few grand? nuts

68style 09-01-2023 10:32 AM

I will never cease to be amazed at what some people decide to steal and what it means if they get caught. Especially at these jobs.

I think part of it comes from they think they know the system really well, so they know how to game it... I'm glad they got busted though. And unlike private citizens that fucked around they got fired too... government can't fire people who weren't public employees.

Gumby 09-01-2023 10:33 AM

Honda always mentions that repeat offenders never get locked up or punished, which is true for the most part. But if you steal from the government/CRA, they will get you!

The Producer 09-01-2023 11:32 AM

CEBA and CEWS saved my shop. unless i took on a mountain of debt, i might have had to walk away. with nothing. it filled the gap exactly when we needed it to.

these programs were most certainly abused, and obviously I disagree w the policies that put us in this position in the first place, but we're still here - and I'm not the only one.

68style 09-01-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9108065)
CEBA and CEWS saved my shop. unless i took on a mountain of debt, i might have had to walk away. with nothing. it filled the gap exactly when we needed it to.

these programs were most certainly abused, and obviously I disagree w the policies that put us in this position in the first place, but we're still here - and I'm not the only one.

This to me makes it all worth it tbh

Cheaters will eventually get caught and they'll find another way to cheat no matter what... but if it saves someone I know or someone legit then I'll take the L on some losers who game everything in their life

Hondaracer 09-01-2023 01:02 PM

A family friend got over 1.5 mill between Canada and the USA and figured he doesn’t have to pay back anything after further evaluation

He does employ like 100+ people and business was at risk due to Covid and the type of work they do etc. but pretty crazy it ended up being basically a cheque cut to the company with nothing to repay

Traum 09-01-2023 01:22 PM

That $1.5M may sound like a lot, but when you spread it over 100 people, it's only $15k per person. And that's over how long a duration...? 6 months? 8 months? 2 years?

At 6 months, you're looking at $2500 per person per month. That is hardly a lot.

Hondaracer 09-01-2023 01:29 PM

Yea in terms of operating costs it’s nothing when you have like 6-7 large facilities going

Alpine 09-02-2023 11:27 AM

https://www.chch.com/pierre-poilievr...ther-marxists/

Bahahahahahah

Manic! 09-02-2023 12:15 PM

Atting JT is one thing but attacking his dead father? Maybe someone should ask him as a Christian does he think his dad is going to hell for being a homo.

Con MP thinks the immigration process is too long and wants to speed it up for the 2-plus million waiting to come to Canada. PP will not reduce imagination.


68style 09-06-2023 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9107978)
My financial advisor said almost every big bank is factoring in a 50/50 chance of a rate hike.

Should have bet beers!

Hondaracer 09-06-2023 03:08 PM

Eby did it

Manic! 09-07-2023 11:30 AM

Polls are all over the place but this one by Nanos has the cons and libs tied.


https://i.ibb.co/xD8rrZP/libs.jpg

whitev70r 09-07-2023 11:41 AM

Polls mean dick all .. if they were accurate, we'd never have 2 Trump threads ... we'd have one Hilary Clinton thread.

68style 09-07-2023 02:31 PM

Well, the polls were accurate.. Hillary won the popular vote... just the US electoral college is fuckkked

The Producer 09-07-2023 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9108489)
Polls are all over the place but this one by Nanos has the cons and libs tied.


https://i.ibb.co/xD8rrZP/libs.jpg

for an election that's 2 years away.

lot of stuff can change. remember when unlike the americans, politicians didn't campaign 2 years in advance? there's PP ads on TV already.

Manic! 09-07-2023 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9108520)
for an election that's 2 years away.

lot of stuff can change. remember when unlike the americans, politicians didn't campaign 2 years in advance? there's PP ads on TV already.

PP is spending 3 million on ads right now. other polls show him 10 to 14 points in the lead. 338 has him with a 9 point lead and a majority. Cons are really happy right now but I think PP is blowing his load early.

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

whitev70r 09-07-2023 05:27 PM

Well, you never know, NDP could get out of bed with the Libs and then, here we go with an election. But damn, JT ...one thing I am sure and you don't need any polls, you are dragging the Libs down. Do the right thing and step down ...give your party a better chance.

Manic! 09-07-2023 06:58 PM

JT is down in the polls because the cons have been attacking him 24/7. When he goes on the attack and PP's true colours start showing things will change. PP can't hide his voting record.


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