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Old 09-18-2023, 02:25 PM   #5201
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Shit countries or not, they are powerful enemies to have. And if 2024 goes back to Trump count on having another go at a frenemy USA. It's like the guy doesn't know a god damn thing about realpolitik.
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Shit countries or not, they are powerful enemies to have. And if 2024 goes back to Trump count on having another go at a frenemy USA. It's like the guy doesn't know a god damn thing about realpolitik.
trump is not getting re elected. Do you really want Canada to be friends with dictators? Maybe you want JT to visit North Korea.
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Canada is not in any position to pick and choose who they are friends with.

Isolating ourselves from the largest economies on the planet. That will surely make things more affordable!

Crazy what happens when your “religious freedoms” have borderline terrorist organizations operating freely, advertising their wants all over the place, and creating resentment within a population against a country many of which their followers have never been to.

As I said before, many of the Sikh people I work with said good riddance when he was killed because he is creating this rift within the community of violence and hatred. Which Canada has openly allowed
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trump is not getting re elected. Do you really want Canada to be friends with dictators? Maybe you want JT to visit North Korea.

We are friends with dictators whenever it suits us...until the relationship sours when we do something to piss them off. I'm not saying we should be buddying up with every two-bit madman but why are we actively antagonizing 60% of the world right now?
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Canada is not in any position to pick and choose who they are friends with.

Isolating ourselves from the largest economies on the planet. That will surely make things more affordable!

Crazy what happens when your “religious freedoms” have borderline terrorist organizations operating freely, advertising their wants all over the place, and creating resentment within a population against a country many of which their followers have never been to.

As I said before, many of the Sikh people I work with said good riddance when he was killed because he is creating this rift within the community of violence and hatred. Which Canada has openly allowed
Do they think foreign countries should be allowed to kill Canadians on Canadian soil?

If you want to talk about creating a rift in communities. A couple of hindu temples in Australia where vandalized with some anti modi pro Sikh graffiti. India media covered it 24/7 blaming Sikhs. Police report just came out saying it was done by hindus and someone had turned off the security camera's in the temple.

Claiming this guy was a terrorist is just BS.

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India doing what western society’s have pulled for the last 100 years?

Damn they really are up and coming!
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Canada is not in any position to pick and choose who they are friends with.

Isolating ourselves from the largest economies on the planet. That will surely make things more affordable!

Crazy what happens when your “religious freedoms” have borderline terrorist organizations operating freely, advertising their wants all over the place, and creating resentment within a population against a country many of which their followers have never been to.

As I said before, many of the Sikh people I work with said good riddance when he was killed because he is creating this rift within the community of violence and hatred. Which Canada has openly allowed
You always seem to have a demographic of experts for every situation to affirm your "canada is a joke" statements for whatever is being talked about eh?
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These people I reference seem to understand the situation better than I do, they are Indians, from India. So when a few of them are in agreement over a situation, I’d take their opinion into consideration over someone with zero personal connection to it

Ya don’t gotta go far to find people who think Canada is turning into a dump though. I guarantee you if you went and interviewed people on the street, random people from every background, the opinion would be the same.
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These people I reference seem to understand the situation better than I do, they are Indians, from India. So when a few of them are in agreement over a situation, I’d take their opinion into consideration over someone with zero personal connection to it

Ya don’t gotta go far to find people who think Canada is turning into a dump though. I guarantee you if you went and interviewed people on the street, random people from every background, the opinion would be the same.
Indians as in Hindu's or Sikhs. Why not ask some Russians about putin.

This was the crowd for voting in Surrey.



Estimates had over 135 thousand people. https://www.geo.tv/latest/509353-ove...adas-vancouver but the few guys you talked to don't support it.

PP using the N word.
I am waiting for the remix.

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Why would kids support this? Do you think all those young people in that picture have any clue what they are supporting?

Canada, we let terror brew until it becomes a problem.

The liberals have been pulling off an amazing diversion tactic in the last few years. While they openly embrace freedom of religion, many of which are adamantly against the way of life the liberals promote (LGBT etc) and bordering on terrorism, they’d have you believe the real enemy is the 3rd generation Canadian who doesn’t want gender politics in public schools lol..

These organized religious groups are far more of a threat than the freedom convoy bozo
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Why would kids support this? Do you think all those young people in that picture have any clue what they are supporting?

Canada, we let terror brew until it becomes a problem.

The liberals have been pulling off an amazing diversion tactic in the last few years. While they openly embrace freedom of religion, many of which are adamantly against the way of life the liberals promote (LGBT etc) and bordering on terrorism, they’d have you believe the real enemy is the 3rd generation Canadian who doesn’t want gender politics in public schools lol..

These organized religious groups are far more of a threat than the freedom convoy bozo
Because kids are taught history. Are you shocked kids know about slavery?

Talking about religion it's the cons who support religious fruit cakes. Look at the 1 million march 4 children.
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These people I reference seem to understand the situation better than I do, they are Indians, from India. So when a few of them are in agreement over a situation, I’d take their opinion into consideration over someone with zero personal connection to it

Ya don’t gotta go far to find people who think Canada is turning into a dump though. I guarantee you if you went and interviewed people on the street, random people from every background, the opinion would be the same.
So the 5 dudes you talked to don't support the guy, and then you see a bunch that do. Seems like they are all Indian, so how did you decide who's right? Did you just pick the answer you liked more?
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Lol I don’t get what you’re trying to get at.. so I have a few very intelligent, objective co-workers who were eloquently able to explain their dislike for a borderline terrorist group.. and you are trying to undermine their opinion as I haven’t poled the masses? You do know what this group stands for right?

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Immediately after Operation Blue Star, authorities were unprepared for how quickly extremism spread and gained support in Canada, with extremists "...threatening to kill thousands of Hindus by a number of means, including blowing up Air India flights."[193][194] Canadian Member of Parliament Ujjal Dosanjh, a moderate Sikh, stated that he and others who spoke out against Sikh extremism in the 1980s faced a "reign of terror".[195]
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In 2008, a CBC report stated that "a disturbing brand of extremist politics has surfaced" at some of the Vaisakhi and the Buddhist Vesak parades in Canada,[163] and The Trumpet agreed with the CBC assessment.[204] Two leading Canadian Sikh politicians refused to attend the parade in Surrey, saying it was a glorification of terrorism.[163] In 2008, Dr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of India, expressed his concern that there might be a resurgence of Sikh extremism.[205][206]

There has been some controversy over Canada's response to the Khalistan movement. After Amarinder Singh's refusal to meet Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in 2017, calling him a "Khalistani sympathizer", Singh ultimately met with Trudeau 22 Feb 2018 over the issue.[207] Trudeau assured Singh that his country would not support the revival of the separatist movement.[208][10][209] Shiromani Akali Dal President Sukhbir Badal was quoted saying Khalistan is "no issue, either in Canada or in Punjab".[210] Justin Trudeau has declared that his country would not support the revival of the separatist movement.[10]

A 2020 report by Canadian ex-journalist Terry Milewski criticized the Khalistan movement as driven by the Pakistani government, and as a threat to Canadian interests
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JT said he would not support revival of this movement, yet allowing massive demonstrations and very clearly allowing this movement to flourish.

Lol.. like.. I get ya don’t agree with my JT takes, but trying to counter my points on this? I don’t get it.
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Nehru was the first PM of India.

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"...as the Sikhs in particular, and Muslims and other minorities in general have expressed dissatisfaction over the solution of communal questions proposed in the Nehru Report, this Congress assures the Sikhs, the Muslims and other minorities that no solution thereof in any future constitution will be acceptable to the Congress that does not give full satisfaction to the parties concerned.”

Then comes the promise of autonomy. Jinnah first promised Sikhs an autonomous state within Pakistan. Master Tara Singh and the Akalis became tempted to accept but then Nehru and Gandhi promised them the same-

"I ask you to accept my word…and the resolution of the Congress that it will not betray a single individual, much less a community…our Sikh friends have no reason to fear that it would betray them. For, the moment it does so, the Congress would not only thereby seal its own doom but that of the country too. Moreover, Sikhs are a brave people. They know how to safeguard their rights by exercise of arms if it should ever come to that."

Jawaharlal Nehru reiterated Gandhi’s assurance to the Sikhs at the All India Congress Committee meeting in Calcuatta in 1946. He declared:

The brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special consideration. I see nothing wrong in an area and a set-up in the North wherein the Sikhs can experience the glow of freedom.

Redistribution of provincial boundaries was essential and inevitable. I stand for semi-autonomous units…if the Sikhs desire to function as such a unit, I would like them to have a semi-autonomous unit within the province so that they may have a sense of freedom.

Adequate safeguards would be provided for minorities in India…It was a declaration, pledge and an undertaking before the world, a contract with millions of Indians and, therefore, in the nature of an oath we must keep.

Then the Punjabi Suba Movement started. You wouldn't guess what happened-

In 1947, the governor of Punjab, Mr. C.M. Trevedi, in deference to the wishes of the Prime Minister Jawahar Lal Nehru and Sardar Patel, the Deputy Prime Minister, issued certain instructions to all the Deputy Commissioners of Indian Punjab…These were to the effect that, without reference to the law of the land, the Sikhs in general and Sikh migrants in particular must be treated as a “criminal tribe”. Harsh treatment must be meted out to them…to the extent of shooting them dead so that they wake up to the political realities and recognize “who are the rulers and who the subjects.”

Master Tara Singh summed up Sikh sentiments in his Presidential Address to the All India Sikh Conference on March 28, 1953:

English-man has gone, but our [Sikh] liberty has not come. For us the so-called liberty is simply a change of masters, black for white. Under the garb of democracy and secularism, our Panth, our liberty and our religion are being crushed.
Sikhs have been treated terribly in India. After 84 25000 Sikhs where made to disappear including children.
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Great, so now we're basically at "war" with Russia, China and India now.

Anyone want to cause an international incident in Rio and fuck shit up with Brazil now too?
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Damn, does this mean other Canadians should stay away from Vaishaki parades now in case of terrorist reprisals and state-sanctioned assasinations?

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Sooooooo who we gonna vote for ? Pee pee!? we got some really limited choices here.

Ugh, bring on the Canadian dictatorship plz.
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Ugh, bring on the Canadian dictatorship plz.
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Interesting fact. The CPC and the BJP (rulling party in India) Are part of a center right group called the IDU run by PP's old boss stephen harper.

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I hope this will put an interesting twist on how the US will interact with India, given how the US' current foreign policy is trying to pivot itself away from China, and switching some stuff to India. Europe is also heavily courting India to be their new best friend.

But knowing US, they are probably still going to stay the course on sweet-talking India into becoming a bigger partner.
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JT also released a statement.

The only thing PP has is JT's dck in his mouth. He can't stop talking about him.
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Sooooooo who we gonna vote for ? Pee pee!? we got some really limited choices here.

Ugh, bring on the Canadian dictatorship plz.
For the time being, I still think the best option is to pressure the Libs to drop Turd, and elect someone new to lead the party. But I think the chances of that happening is kind of slim.

Technically we still have ~2 years to go, so it isn't something normal chums like us need to worry about yet. But it is absolutely something the Liberals Party should think about.
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