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Traum 09-23-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9110066)
^^ yea it's an excuse for the Western world, aka USA to build a military outpost there to "keep the peace" literally this can be stopped today Ukraine and Russia just has to talk it out, We clearly know that Ukraine has no resources of it's own to win this. They are just trying to beg their way too drag other people in. How will sending more weapons stop a war?

And so we get all the way back to square one -- should NATO just roll over and let Russia take Ukraine then? Isn't that what they did in 2014, and look where that has gotten us now? And if NATO really just rolled over and gave up on Ukraine, what do you think is going to happen to Poland and a number of other adjacent countries a few years down the road?

You do realize that Poland is right next to Germany, right?

If you think Ukraine and Russia can "just talk it out", I'd have to say you have zero understanding of how this war has been.

JDMDreams 09-23-2023 09:52 AM

You do realize borders are imaginary and man made right? Are you gonna give your stolen Canadian land back to the natives? Give up that house? End of Sept is coming up. :lawl:

Hondaracer 09-23-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9110067)
And so we get all the way back to square one -- should NATO just roll over and let Russia take Ukraine then? Isn't that what they did in 2014, and look where that has gotten us now? And if NATO really just rolled over and gave up on Ukraine, what do you think is going to happen to Poland and a number of other adjacent countries a few years down the road?

You do realize that Poland is right next to Germany, right?

If you think Ukraine and Russia can "just talk it out", I'd have to say you have zero understanding of how this war has been.

Ukraine isn’t in NATO.

Manic! 09-23-2023 02:05 PM

Indian media is wild. This Indian politician said India should nuke Canada.
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"This issue must reach its logical end after escalation .. it should not be left in the middle .. Mr Trudeau What are you? .. Today 10 of our submarines will go from Hindustan and nuke you Canada .. What is your place?" the Indian politician said in the video.
https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/...a-on-live-show

Indian politicians are also corrupt. 40% of Indian MLAs have criminal cases against them.

Hondaracer 09-23-2023 03:46 PM

This is one of the most cringey things I’ve ever seen him do.. and we had to suffer through all his raw raw Covid BS…


Has any other leader the world over done this type of grandstanding lol? Like this is literally crazy.. who does he think he is lol Jesus Christ

Btw he actually outlines at some point in this that they’ve actually given 9 billion so far and that’s not gonna end any time soon.

JDMDreams 09-25-2023 08:00 AM

Meanwhile in Canada they brought out and recognized a Nazi :lawl::joy::joy:

whitev70r 09-25-2023 08:05 AM

Yah, one decade a guy can be a hero ... another, he's a devil.

Hondaracer 09-25-2023 08:15 AM

Why the fuck are you even trying to trot out people who fought against Russia.. like are you fucking insane? Lol who fought against Russia in WW2? The nazis, Italians, and whatever fringe countries formed the axis?

No shit the guy was a nazi, he was fighting against the allied campaign in the Russians you fucking fools! Lol like Jesus Christ the guy is the most stereotypical Hitler youth, SS German you’ve ever seen even in his 90’s and because it suits your little ra-ra campaign you bring him out without figuring out the most basic detail of his life?

Only Trudeau would trot out a nazi thinking it would be a good idea because it suited a publicity stunt that shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Even senile fucking joe Biden wouldn’t be this stupid.

westopher 09-25-2023 08:27 AM

It was the house speaker, who carries no alliance with any party. I was waiting for the "it's trudeaus fault" post from you without understanding what happened. I'm surprised it took as long as it did.
This brings up a bigger issue in our political system here though, is that almost everyone at every level is just plain fucking stupid. The people in government are so concerned with image that they can't even pass grade 3 social studies.

Hondaracer 09-25-2023 08:35 AM

Didn’t see any clip other than Zelensky and Trudeau pointing at and praising a guy who is almost certainly a Nazi in the crowd, so figured it was Turds handy work as he seems to have a knack for situations like this

While it’s pretty clearly the house speakers fault, a quick search seems to show the party hosting these types of events should probably vet the guests being invited who they are to praise in a scripted speech lol…

Quote:

At one point, Mr Rota pointed to Mr Hunka who sat in the gallery, saying the man was "a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all his service".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958.amp

FailFish

I won’t put the blame directly on Turd but Jesus Christ, as you said, people are fucking dumbbbbbb

JD¹³ 09-25-2023 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9110126)
It was the house speaker, who carries no alliance with any party. I was waiting for the "it's trudeaus fault" post from you without understanding what happened. I'm surprised it took as long as it did.
This brings up a bigger issue in our political system here though, is that almost everyone at every level is just plain fucking stupid. The people in government are so concerned with image that they can't even pass grade 3 social studies.

While the Speaker is supposed to remain impartial for his official duties they still have party allegiance because they're sitting MP's. The Speaker has been a Liberal MP since 2004, it's impossible for him to be 100% impartial. Either way the Prime Minister was made aware and approved bringing this guy in to Parliament for the dog and pony show during a foreign dignitaries visit. So long story short you're right but they're both equal fucking idiots.

GLOW 09-25-2023 04:34 PM

did PP blame it on JT yet and demand he resign? :lol

Manic! 09-26-2023 04:45 AM

Indian media is fcking wild. Former ambassador from India is calming JT's plane was full of coke and he was high for 2 days.


https://organiser.org/2023/09/26/197...g-revelations/


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There is shocking revelation by the Former Indian diplomat Deepak Vohra that Justin Trudeau was high when he came to India for G20. Sniffer Dogs found cocaine on his plane. Justin Trudeau didn’t even come out of his room for two days, leaving him unable to attend G20 programmes.

westopher 09-26-2023 05:44 AM

This is a good example of why I'm willing to go on the defence for canada when people overuse terms like facism, and accuse the media of lying all the time. The media here totally puts a spin on things, right or left pending the outlet, but no one's just sitting on the shitter making up random rumours and passing it off as fact. That's fucking pathetic.

68style 09-26-2023 07:13 AM

I have friends who did the most simple things like volunteer for Team Canada at the Beijing Olympics and Sochi Olympics and in both places anytime they left any venue obviously had agents and police following them and were told to not bring phones or other devices or let these agents bump into them because they'd be cloning phones and doing all kinds of espionage... one person did bring their phone somewhere and "lost" it and then it magically appeared again on another table and the CSIS people with them took the phone and isolated it, they found it was full of backdoor software already.

When people talk about living in fascist states and then indicate they live in places like Canada, they have no fucking idea what they're talking about. Like... zero... none at all. We're not even on the spectrum governmentally.

Great68 09-26-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9110067)
And so we get all the way back to square one -- should NATO just roll over and let Russia take Ukraine then? Isn't that what they did in 2014, and look where that has gotten us now? And if NATO really just rolled over and gave up on Ukraine, what do you think is going to happen to Poland and a number of other adjacent countries a few years down the road?

You do realize that Poland is right next to Germany, right?

If you think Ukraine and Russia can "just talk it out", I'd have to say you have zero understanding of how this war has been.

Yeah, appeasement has always historically been fantastic policy, one which is guaranteed to stop agressors and prevent them from conducting future invasions and conquering more territory....

*looks up European History 1938-9*

Ah Crap!

As I mentioned in the other Ukraine War thread, NATO is only as good as a member country's pledge to support it. To date only the US has ever invoked article 5 after 9/11. It has never been invoked in european conflict. Only a few years ago the USA had a president advocating for them leaving NATO altogether. I can't imagine Bud and Cleetus in Alabama are going to give more of a fuck if Russia wants to take a slice of Poland or Lithuania than they currently do about Ukraine. There is no guarantee of support. Much better to provide funds to stop the cancer from being able to spread now, then trying to fight it later with your own bodies.

Side note: Due to Russian sanctions, Canada's potash industry is having a huge boom, shipping double the tonnage per year over 2021...

JDMDreams 09-26-2023 08:59 AM

Lol you think Google, Apple, bezos and Elon doesn't have all your nudes, and vids of your car sex :pokerface::lawl:

68style 09-26-2023 08:59 AM

I knew I should have bought potash stonks when I had the chance

Hondaracer 09-26-2023 09:15 AM

Hahahaha

Poland now taking steps to extradite buddy that was dragged up for being a “Canadian hero”

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6978266

You can’t write this shit

68style 09-26-2023 09:27 AM

it's so weird that dude wanted to be there and reached out... he had to have known that if his name hit anything resembling a headline there'd be calls for extradition and tribunals

westopher 09-26-2023 09:52 AM

At 98 I assume he didn't understand a ton. Would be cool if canada didn't let nazis live out their golden years here though.
This is by far the most embarrassing thing canada has done in recent memory, and there should be at least one job lost because of it, if not more.

murd0c 09-26-2023 10:00 AM

Just watch the Liberal government is going to ignore it until it goes away. No one is going to get fired or even reprimanded over it either.

Qmx323 09-26-2023 10:38 AM

Rota stepped down just now, did he not

homie retired a few years early

murd0c 09-26-2023 10:45 AM

Hopefully more people fall from this, Rota can't be the only causality.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...0c370b26&ei=14

westopher 09-26-2023 11:19 AM

Personally I think every MP that stood up and cheered should be replaced.


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