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Traum 09-10-2019 12:58 PM

I wonder if the late Jack Layton would be rolling over in his grave upon hearing this...

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/09...eaders-debate/

Quote:

Greens pass NDP in polls days before first leaders debate
BY CORMAC MAC SWEENEY
Posted Sep 10, 2019 9:54 am PDT Last Updated Sep 10, 2019 at 10:53 am PDT

...

The survey, from Mainstreet Research, shows the Liberals are on top at 37 per cent and the Conservatives are at 34. But for the first time ever, the Green Party is polling in third place, ahead of the New Democrats.

“We have the Greens now at 10.8, a couple of points ahead of the NDP at 8.4 nationally,” Mainstreet CEO Quito Maggi says, adding this is reflective of the fact that the environment has emerged as a top priority for voters in this campaign.

...

GS8 09-10-2019 07:53 PM

PC Party wins majority in Manitoba provincial election

https://globalnews.ca/news/5884598/m...cial-election/

I had CBC on my TV in the background and I heard a reporter interviewing some woman.

Quote:

Reporter: What are your thoughts on a PC majority win?

Woman: KiLL mE naaaooOOOO00!
Seems to be a standard reply when anyone Conservative wins anything :lol

EDIT: Voter turnout all time low. That woman should refocus on who she should be upset with LUL

Manic! 09-10-2019 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8959608)
PC Party wins majority in Manitoba provincial election

https://globalnews.ca/news/5884598/m...cial-election/

I had CBC on my TV in the background and I heard a reporter interviewing some woman.



Seems to be a standard reply when anyone Conservative wins anything :lol

EDIT: Voter turnout all time low. That woman should refocus on who she should be upset with LUL


She said a 1000 years of darkness.

MG1 09-11-2019 08:06 AM

Cot Dam........... just watched Elizabeth May's speech. I believe in a system where there are multiple parties, but are we stretched to the limit? Where this is the best we have to offer?

JT, Andew Scheer, Elizabeth May, Jagmeet Singh, Bernier........

Elizabeth May.......... "This is the most important election in Canada's history." Really? For you, maybe, but that's about it. And her french............ I suck at french, but even I know her french sucks monkey balls. Where's the token asian or south asian? I see an aboriginal person........... maybe. She's holding a feather and wears something that looks like native art. I also don't trust people who smile too much "Smiles n Chuckles."


What's even sadder is.................... I might vote for her party. Why not? Can't do any shittier than the rest of the jokers and their parties out there.

I guess it depends on the candidate in my riding, if there is one, lol.


EDIT: https://www.burnabynow.com/news/i-wa...ary-1.23908762


pansexual......... I can live with that, gulolol.

Jmac 09-11-2019 11:05 AM

Candidates are all terrible again.

May pissed me off when she refused to run a candidate against Singh “out of courtesy.” Fuck off, that’s not how democracy is supposed to work.

welfare 09-11-2019 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8959641)
Cot Dam........... just watched Elizabeth May's speech. I believe in a system where there are multiple parties, but are we stretched to the limit? Where this is the best we have to offer?

JT, Andew Scheer, Elizabeth May, Jagmeet Singh, Bernier........

Elizabeth May.......... "This is the most important election in Canada's history." Really? For you, maybe, but that's about it. And her french............ I suck at french, but even I know her french sucks monkey balls. Where's the token asian or south asian? I see an aboriginal person........... maybe. She's holding a feather and wears something that looks like native art. I also don't trust people who smile too much "Smiles n Chuckles."


What's even sadder is.................... I might vote for her party. Why not? Can't do any shittier than the rest of the jokers and their parties out there.

I guess it depends on the candidate in my riding, if there is one, lol.


EDIT: https://www.burnabynow.com/news/i-wa...ary-1.23908762


pansexual......... I can live with that, gulolol.


You're definitely not alone. The vast majority of Canadians polled in a recent study out of SFU feel distanced by their government and are looking quite favourably to populism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5260422

68style 09-11-2019 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8959659)
You're definitely not alone. The vast majority of Canadians polled in a recent study out of SFU feel distanced by their government and are looking quite favourably to populism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5260422

Great, so people believe in something that doesn't actually exist because there’s no actual clear definition beyond “being for the people” lol... good sign of things to come.

Sounds like religion by a different name.

MG1 09-11-2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8959180)
Eww, an Eagles' fan..

And, what’s wrong with the Eagles? Greatest Band ever.......... wait.......... lol. :troll:

Manic! 09-12-2019 08:22 PM


Imagine a P.M. that listens to Dead Prez.

welfare 09-12-2019 09:12 PM


SkinnyPupp 09-12-2019 11:19 PM

Canada's new child benefit has lifted almost 300,000 children out of poverty and strengthened the middle class, study shows

Manic! 09-13-2019 02:21 AM

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https://pressprogress.ca/proud-to-be...nt-discovered/

Quote:

‘Proud to Be White’: Conservative Candidate Resigns After Secret Anti-Immigrant Facebook Account Discovered

Conservative candidate in Manitoba shared anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim posts and declared he’s ‘proud to be white’

welfare 09-13-2019 04:45 AM

I have to say,however cowardly and hypocritical, Trudeau not taking part in this debate was politically the best decision. Most people griping about it probably wouldn't have voted for him anyways.
Rather than be trounced by all three opponents he left the completely uncharismatic and not very likable Scheer (The close opposition) to be flanked by the two leftists whose policies would see the average Canadians paying even more with an even slower economy.

welfare 09-13-2019 04:48 AM

I assume this forum is mostly made up of middle class Canadians. I wonder, if asked, how much more affordable they'd feel this government has made their lives.

SkinnyPupp 09-13-2019 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8959797)
I assume this forum is mostly made up of middle class Canadians. I wonder, if asked, how much more affordable they'd feel this government has made their lives.

You can be middle class and still care about the... welfare... of your fellow citizen

Not everything should be about "how can the government make my life, as a well-off person who doesn't have to worry about very many things, better?"

68style 09-13-2019 07:37 AM

I've posted about it before in great detail on this forum, but Child Tax Benefit is one of the most abused programs in Canada... I worked there for 1.5 years doing investigations and the number of people in very affluent addresses declaring zero income with a spouse who is a non-resident also making "no income" claiming full benefit for 2 kids while living on the west side of Vancouver and getting a full cheque every month for 18 years of their children's lives is absolutely staggering.

I don't doubt the program helps many people, my sister included (and of course there's abuse, I talked to many parents who were separated and both trying to claim the money and there was no doubt in my mind that money was for liquor, drugs, gambling, etc. but I believe them to be in the minority) but hundreds of millions go to rich people lying about their income. Mostly the "permanent resident" type unfortunately -- ie: the ones who are in a position to lie to CRA because their spouse makes money in another country whereas anyone who works in Canada would be unable to hide their income unless they were paid in cash.

Manic! 09-13-2019 10:18 AM

https://www.facebook.com/17716181233...1585999888966/

welfare 09-13-2019 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8959805)
You can be middle class and still care about the... welfare... of your fellow citizen

Not everything should be about "how can the government make my life, as a well-off person who doesn't have to worry about very many things, better?"

Sorry, I don't really see anything commendable about taking money by force from those who've earned it and giving it to those who haven't. All the while ringing up a deficit that those children will be paying for.

SkinnyPupp 09-13-2019 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8959849)
Sorry, I don't really see anything commendable about taking money by force from those who've earned it and giving it to those who haven't. All the while ringing up a deficit that those children will be paying for.

You didn't have to tell me that LUL

Infiniti 09-13-2019 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8959849)
Sorry, I don't really see anything commendable about taking money by force from those who've earned it and giving it to those who haven't. All the while ringing up a deficit that those children will be paying for.

With your mindset, you seem better suited living in the United States in a state with low taxation. That way, you would get to keep more of your money. Have you contemplated living in Alberta?

carisear 09-13-2019 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8959851)
With your mindset, you seem better suited living in the United States in a state with low taxation. That way, you would get to keep more of your money. Have you contemplated living in Alberta?

a ha! you have just explained exactly why making people who make more money pay more is a bad idea!

I personally know many people whom have left Canada due to high taxation rate! Now the country as a whole is getting zero dollars from them, instead of the high number it could've.

68style 09-13-2019 06:01 PM

^
I don’t buy into that threat at all... they wanna live in the USA taxes isn’t what was going to drive them there. If they really cared about that they’d go somewhere with no taxes like Korea or HK or whatever.

If what your saying is true with any sort of prevalence then countries like Norway or denmark would have no affluent people living in them.

DragonChi 09-13-2019 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8959849)
Sorry, I don't really see anything commendable about taking money by force from those who've earned it and giving it to those who haven't. All the while ringing up a deficit that those children will be paying for.

While they have earned the money, hording it slows the economy because that money could have been spent on services or goods that pay someone elses pay cheque.

Lets say someone made a million a year, saved 250k.

That's five peoples' yearly income that could be spent in the economy.

It's pretty clear that the high earner doesn't need to save that money. I would appreciate a higher tax bracket. If it went to better social programs. In the 1960s in the United States, the highest tax bracket was 70%.

Canada as a country better start making some babies if you want to stop immigration. :troll: Who else is going to man those Tim Horton's.

DragonChi 09-13-2019 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carisear (Post 8959869)
a ha! you have just explained exactly why making people who make more money pay more is a bad idea!

I personally know many people whom have left Canada due to high taxation rate! Now the country as a whole is getting zero dollars from them, instead of the high number it could've.

I would like to know where these people moved to, how much they made, whether they were employees or business owners.

Furthermore, seeing foreign capital introduced into our system has made it pretty clear that the wealth gap has increased. Making living for the marginalized incredibly difficult.

DragonChi 09-13-2019 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8959806)
I've posted about it before in great detail on this forum, but Child Tax Benefit is one of the most abused programs in Canada... I worked there for 1.5 years doing investigations and the number of people in very affluent addresses declaring zero income with a spouse who is a non-resident also making "no income" claiming full benefit for 2 kids while living on the west side of Vancouver and getting a full cheque every month for 18 years of their children's lives is absolutely staggering.

I don't doubt the program helps many people, my sister included (and of course there's abuse, I talked to many parents who were separated and both trying to claim the money and there was no doubt in my mind that money was for liquor, drugs, gambling, etc. but I believe them to be in the minority) but hundreds of millions go to rich people lying about their income. Mostly the "permanent resident" type unfortunately -- ie: the ones who are in a position to lie to CRA because their spouse makes money in another country whereas anyone who works in Canada would be unable to hide their income unless they were paid in cash.

Instead of giving money to these people that have no financial skills, i.e. a high likelihood of why they're poor, provide them with child services like subsidized daycare, childrens clothing, school meals, early education programs.

Though, I wish there was a way to close the loop with foreign people that milk the system. Possibly making these benefit available to Canadian citizens and restricting multi citizenships from certain countries.


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