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Some of them might.. but there is no help available, even if they wanted it. So everyone is stuck in this cycle of addiction, crime, etc. All these problems are squarely on the government. |
Sort of, it's actually society's fault isn't it? Governments do whatever is popular by default because that's what gets them voted in. They try not to do things that are unpopular because that's a death sentence for their party. Spending money on a multi-tiered approach to assist people getting off drugs and staying clean after is too complex for the average numb nuts to understand, all they see is "my tax dollars are going to some crackhead" and they vote for the other party next election. If society was better educated about how things work to see the positive end goal and how much more effective and actually cheaper in the long run it would be, governments would institute those changes. Did society make the government ineffective? Or did the government make society cynical and therefor ineffective to change? Hard to tell. |
There are sooooo many things that money is just thrown at behind the scenes that go -nowhere- This could have been one of those things, just give another 50-100 million a year into support and recovery in some bill from some slush fund and carry on. But of course, nothing ever happened and now, you know it’s VERY bad because the feds run commercials about addiction and substance abuse. Whenever you see a federal commercial, you know shit is even WAY worse than it actually appears. It’s like housing now, JT actually sucked up his pride and now says immigration and housing is a huge problem, guess what, it’s WAY worse than you think. |
Saw an interesting stat today that I'm wondering why it isn't something people are angry about. For perspective, people seem to talk about money given to Ukraine most often when talking about money "wasted" by our government. Here's a list of aid by country US: 75 billion Germany: 42 billion France: 19 billion UK: 17 billion Netherlands: 15 Italy: 14 Spain: 13 Denmark: 11 Poland: 9 Norway: 8 Japan: 8 Sweden: 7 Canada: 6 Money worth of tax subsidies given to the oil and gas industry in 2023 by Canada 18.6 billion Now tell me. Why the FUCK is this not being mentioned in financial waste by this government. Why are the cons not campaigning on this being the biggest throwaway of taxpayer dollars in this country? What are the chances that 6 billion that went to Ukraine would turn into 25 billion in subsidies in a year that the cons are running the show? Is that why its not being talked about? Why aren't people who want tax dollars going to making canada better upset about this as a priority? Another perfect example of parties using the anger flavour of the week to get people wound up about things to push identity politics. We, as a population have a serious problem eating this shit up, and we ALL need to smarten the fuck up (me included, you included) to hold these people accountable and focus on what actually matters, without consideration of party lines. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Trudeau upheld his promise of proportional representation we wouldn't be in this mess. He could have been the hero, but instead has become the villain because politics is basically just a really boring hockey game now. |
I would assume it’s because the perception (and likely reality to some degree) that those subsidies represent jobs in Canada. |
You have to ask yourself though, how come you're willing to draw vague beneficial lines between $18.6B to oil and gas companies and maybe jobs in Canada.... But can't see the benefit of spending $6B helping to prevent a future world war if Russia starts enveloping all the countries around it into a new USSR and all the hundreds of billions of $ and millions of lives that would cost? |
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Like they aren't going to turn down 10 billion because Canada didn't give them 1 back. |
The Cons have a strong supporter base in Alberta, so of course they are not going to say anything that would badmouth the oil and gas industry. |
I understand why the cons would never do that, but why can't any of the Canadian voting base do math? Like 18 billion in a year to some of the most profitable, and most destructive corporations in the world is less offensive than 6 billion to keep innocent people from getting blown to pieces is a pretty good indicator of how fucking shitty this planet is. |
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Honestly, I think to some degree a large part of Canada has simply stopped caring about Ukraine. |
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Instead in such typical liberal fashion, we did everything we could to kill the oil and gas industry, then cut them cheques on the other end to prop it up? All the while paying the highest prices in the world on virtually anything to do with oil and gas? Lol We created the environment where subsidies were normalized in the industry. |
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Who says oil and gas companies are keeping the $ in Canada? |
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Just came back from Malaysia after a 13 year long absence. Gas price is around >$0.50/liter, among the cheapest in the world. You don't want this. I know we're all car enthusiasts here but if gas was still this cheap we'd be paying this shit in other ways out our ass through externalities. The result of gas prices in Kuala Lumpur? Everybody drives. Every fucking road is like 10 lanes wide and you can't walk anywhere. I kid you not, look at a map these days and it looks like LA on steroids now. Don't have a car? No problem! Grab (their version of Uber) rides cost like $3 for a 20 minute ride. This was the view from our hotel: A beautiful park, the biggest in the city bisected by a massive freeway. Couldn't walk there from the hotel even though it was technically "across the street". No, take a taxi or Grab. FFS https://imgur.com/5qbnlO8.jpg |
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What stifles the oil and gas industry here? Carbon tax? Again, it's not affecting these companies. They are still posting record profits. What's so hard for them here? |
That's a big pair of balls you got |
Doesn’t seem comfortable to sit on those balls |
Yeah them balls are rock hard. Should get them looked at though, one's looking bigger than the other. |
The liberals have stifled oil and gas so hard that the Trans mountain pipeline starts commercial operations a month earlier than expected, this may. |
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Yea, rockets and tanks have zero value. |
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People complained JT was not building any pipelines so he built Trans mountain. Now those same people are complaining That all the oil is being sent overseas. What did they think was going to happen? |
He took over a pipeline the company wanted to abandon due to the climate of oil and gas in Canada. Like most projects it’s ballooned to multiples of its initial estimate. It was obviously necessary for them to finish the pipeline but it’s hardly anything to look at as an example. |
Didn't horgan go guns blazing saying saying to stop pipe lines (2019)... then once he's in power.. oh wait.. how am i going to make up the job as well as explain to others billions of investment... 2020... |
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