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MarkyMark 05-28-2024 01:36 PM

Why is it all Indians being brought in as TFW's, are people from other countries not willing to do this kind of work? Seems odd to only bring people in from one country instead of several different places but I guess if you need to live in a basement with 5 dudes to make it here that might be the case.

CivicBlues 05-28-2024 01:40 PM

Not only that but 90% are from one state - Punjab.

Why build 10 different people pipelines when just one will do?

Razor Ramon HG 05-28-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9137667)
Out of those 537,700 how many are still going to school looking for part time work? How many of those 15/16 year olds are high school dropouts? How many of those people are living someplace remote where you have a lot less job opportunities? Finally how many of those don't want to work or only want to work in a certain field? I have talked to a lot of business owners and they are all having a hard time finding workers.

I prefer actual factual evidence rather than anecdotal evidence, which is why I pulled out the numbers and official data from StatCan. I linked the data in my post so you can even see it yourself.

Like I mentioned in my previous post, numbers are just numbers. Things are never that simple. The questions you answered are too specific for StatCan to provide data for, but I used criteria to narrow it down as far as I could to provide you with a proper response.

All I can say is that the data and the numbers support the take that there is no unskilled labour shortage. Throw in hundreds of thousands of international students and TFW and it further supports that take. It's all objective and non-anecdotal.

Perhaps there is a labour shortage in your area, but that isn't reflective of all of Canada. People line up for blocks for a single entry level jobs in parts of Ontario right now. If I were to assume that everywhere across Canada was like that, we'd be at record unemployment levels - which as the numbers shows is not.

Manic! 05-28-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9137669)
Why is it all Indians being brought in as TFW's, are people from other countries not willing to do this kind of work? Seems odd to only bring people in from one country instead of several different places but I guess if you need to live in a basement with 5 dudes to make it here that might be the case.

You are more then welcome to open up your own immigration agency and bring in people from what ever country you like. You got any friends or family desperate to come to Canada?

I have to ask why where almost all the pioneers from only a few European countries?

Razor Ramon HG 05-28-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9137669)
Why is it all Indians being brought in as TFW's, are people from other countries not willing to do this kind of work? Seems odd to only bring people in from one country instead of several different places but I guess if you need to live in a basement with 5 dudes to make it here that might be the case.

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9137670)
Not only that but 90% are from one state - Punjab.

Why build 10 different people pipelines when just one will do?

India is one of the largest countries in the world, and Canada is one of the easier western countries to get into. From my understanding, all the smart and educated ones go to the US or UK. Canada is a fall back plan for everyone else.

Those countries also put a limit on permits per country, something that Canada doesn't. I think the last official data for international students in 2023 had Indians being the majority at 40 something percent. It's probably a bit higher now.

As to why they're all from Punjab, maybe Manic knows?

Hondaracer 05-28-2024 03:14 PM

Manic, please make a compelling argument for the benefit of Canada bringing over half of uneducated Punjab.

Outside of propping up these globo national corporations that provide virtually nothing to Canadian society in your Tim Hortons, Wendy’s, Subway, McDonald’s, what exactly are these people bringing to Canada?

They come here with undiagnosed medical conditions, they clog up the healthcare system, they abuse and are abused by labour laws, for what? The sake of peoples convenience with shitty fast food on every corner? Most aren’t even competent enough to be labourers in the construction industry.

Get rid of a third of these places these people work and we wouldn’t need their labour a longer.

We are losing educated professionals in exchange for uneducated labour. At the same time driving up rent prices, promoting disgusting housing arrangements, and generally deteriorating Canadian society.

Your “average” person is now coming to grips with what a problem this is. What’s going to be fucking hilarious is that PP is probably going to win a majority govt with barely a plan because all these liberal issues are just snowballing and coming to light more and more everyday.

Manic! 05-28-2024 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9137684)
Manic, please make a compelling argument for the benefit of Canada bringing over half of uneducated Punjab.

Outside of propping up these globo national corporations that provide virtually nothing to Canadian society in your Tim Hortons, Wendy’s, Subway, McDonald’s, what exactly are these people bringing to Canada?

They come here with undiagnosed medical conditions, they clog up the healthcare system, they abuse and are abused by labour laws, for what? The sake of peoples convenience with shitty fast food on every corner? Most aren’t even competent enough to be labourers in the construction industry.

Get rid of a third of these places these people work and we wouldn’t need their labour a longer.

We are losing educated professionals in exchange for uneducated labour. At the same time driving up rent prices, promoting disgusting housing arrangements, and generally deteriorating Canadian society.

Your “average” person is now coming to grips with what a problem this is. What’s going to be fucking hilarious is that PP is probably going to win a majority govt with barely a plan because all these liberal issues are just snowballing and coming to light more and more everyday.

Uneducated my ass.

Getting rid of 1/3 of those places would be terrible for the economy. People like your cousins husband who does commercial Hvac would be out of a job.

If you want to help the situation why not pop out 5 or 6 kids instead of running away to a country that has a min wage that's less than 1/2 of what we have in BC.

Hondaracer 05-28-2024 03:26 PM

Good answer…

Manic! 05-28-2024 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 9137675)

As to why they're all from Punjab, maybe Manic knows?

You know when your buddy goes to a new restaurant and then the next day tells you how awesome it was? same thing here. You have a classmate or friend/family member come here and then start telling everyone how great Canada is. Canada has a very strong Sikh community that was started in the late 1800's. So it's easy for people from India to adjust to Canada. You would have a way easier time moving to a place in England than a remote village in China. You also have a lot of split families. one brother or sister may have come to Canada in the 60's or 70's while the other stayed behind. Now there are bringing over there nieces and nephews form India. Finally You have a whole immigration system in place with companies and agents in place to help people come to Canada.

Does not matter who wins the next election JT or PP it's not going to change.

Manic! 05-28-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9137684)
Manic, please make a compelling argument for the benefit of Canada bringing over half of uneducated Punjab.

I forgot the first part.

The more people that come to Canada the more money I make. I am not the only one benefiting from this.

Hondaracer 05-28-2024 03:59 PM

:lol

You’re so full of shit.

Flipping what, burner phones and Native smokes? Yea awesome contribution. Or is it the abuse or foreign workers rampant in your industry?

And people ask why I say th is country is going to shit :lol

GS8 05-28-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9137655)
I'm far from racist, but I'm finding all these Indian workers that have now replaced staff at food establishments, retail, it's making me become somewhat prejudice.

Honestly, it's given me a new understanding of right-wingers and how such sentiments start to build, too much of one thing at one time can create a real adverse reaction, such as this.

I miss the Filipinos at my local Church's or McDonald's, I like going to a small town and seeing a mix of staff. Heck the US still reminds me of that, you'll go into a fast food spot, and the staff is a mix of everything.

Why can't we have that? These new guys suck. We've created a class of service workers all from 1 specific country on the other side of the bloody world.

It's funny how many restaurants that were formerly run by Filipinos and replaced with Indians ended up tanking in their Google reviews. The people commenting even state it was 'better when the Filipinos ran it' :lol

I wonder if getting a 3pc meal from Church's @ 120th St gets you a free referendum ballot vote for the next 'free Khalistan election' held at your nearest Uncledeep's marble-floored basement.

Manic! 05-28-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9137693)
:lol

You’re so full of shit.

Flipping what, burner phones and Native smokes? Yea awesome contribution. Or is it the abuse or foreign workers rampant in your industry?

And people ask why I say th is country is going to shit :lol

Fuck native smokes. never sold them never will. Blame Imperial tobacco for that problem. We also don't cell phones. We have a few hundred apartment units being built down the street from us. Those construction workers many of them Mexican come to our store.

Hondaracer 05-28-2024 05:41 PM

I’d also say that propping up all these shitty chains with cheap labour obviously has an adverse effect on small business and hole in the wall restaurants as why would any restaurateur want to try to afford a space next to a guy who can staff a subway with 8 TFW sharing the same bed? It’s impossible to keep up with the rising rents paid for by cheap labour, both on the housing side and business side

westopher 05-28-2024 07:30 PM

It's a race to the bottom for these establishments. Cut cost on the labour, cut cost on the food, and make money off of volume based strictly on there being no other options.

GS8 05-28-2024 08:29 PM

Fill me with PPA, daddy!

Manic! 05-29-2024 08:24 AM

Courtenay-Comox provincial con candidate and true British Colombian has dropped out do to posts he has made online.


BCU wastes no time pointing out the cons have lost multiple candidates.

https://x.com/votebcunited/status/17...cedpM7DIYtf1eA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOtSRjPW...pg&name=medium

Traum 05-29-2024 10:04 AM

Seems like it might be a good idea to shut down any old social media accounts and start off completely fresh again if anyone ever has aspirations to go into politics...

GLOW 05-29-2024 10:16 AM

or not have any to begin with ... i guess until you decide to do politics
i feel like regardless if you close old accounts, the internet will find/dig it up eventually

Razor Ramon HG 05-29-2024 10:51 AM

Once on the internet, always on the internet

Manic! 05-29-2024 02:50 PM

it's not just old stuff his bio on the con website he says he is an true British Columbian. it's right in the first 2 lines. That means he believes there are some British Columbian that are fake?


Edit: Fckin spell check.

68style 05-29-2024 03:05 PM

Are you a real one dude? It's not spelled like the country in South America you know lol

GLOW 05-30-2024 07:38 AM

great now i'm picturing pablo escobar dressed in a uniform from Master and Commander :lol

Tapioca 05-30-2024 07:56 AM

Something to feed the narrative around here - highest emigration from Canada to USA in a decade:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...high-1.7218479

Badhobz 05-30-2024 08:06 AM

Aye. I thought about it too.

I had an opportunity recently to move to Tacoma. Get paid in usd for quite a bit more than staying here but we just got this house and are still settling in.

I’d have to go rent a place down there for 2k usd a month and only see the wife every weekend. Didn’t seem like it’s worth it.


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