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mikemhg 06-25-2024 10:18 AM

I was reading about that as well, it sounds like the consensus is coming out that there wasn't all these mass graves of murdered children throughout the country.

It sounds like like there were graves at some of these schools, but buried and dead from likely natural causes, and certainly not by the hundreds.

68style 06-25-2024 10:40 AM

Gross, nothing like exaggerating murdered children numbers to further a cause.

We had a call the other day at work where someone really high up said that there wasn't enough representation of first nations in the Government of Canada... only 4.5% of federal government workers identify as first nations so we have failed and need to do better with hiring.

Uhm... only 5% of Canada's population identifies as first nations. How is 4.5% representation at a national workplace considered a failure?

Hondaracer 06-25-2024 11:36 AM

I don’t really blame the First Nations for the hype that came from the “mass graves” although some of the leaders definatelt seemed to try and leverage that into money etc.

It just felt like both media and the Libs tried to use it as this platform for reconciliation, which, ironically, has completely stalled since

westopher 06-25-2024 11:44 AM

I think the biggest failure to deliver by the libs is the fact they could dole out what, 100 billion for Covid incentives yet can't find the like 8 billion for clean water on reserves? I think they did the best with the info they could at the start with the CERB, but once it was extended without examining it since its implementation, it's pretty fucked how much money went to the wrong places.

underscore 06-25-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9140585)
I think the biggest failure to deliver by the libs is the fact they could dole out what, 100 billion for Covid incentives yet can't find the like 8 billion for clean water on reserves? I think they did the best with the info they could at the start with the CERB, but once it was extended without examining it since its implementation, it's pretty fucked how much money went to the wrong places.

It doesn't even need to be compared to anything else, it's just ridiculous they haven't done that yet full stop. Spread it over over 4 years and it's less than half a percent of the budget.

Hondaracer 06-25-2024 01:32 PM

They are so committed to reconciliation that they can’t even provide the most basic human right? Lol ffs

3rd world Canada

68style 06-25-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9140604)
They are so committed to reconciliation that they can’t even provide the most basic human right? Lol ffs

3rd world Canada

You might think it's just that simple, but you have to always ask yourself if something seems too ridiculous to comprehend, it's probably because a lot of information is missing.

I won't say much about that any specific situation, but it ain't the government of Canada that's getting in the way of clean drinking water at at least 2 sites I know of... it's the band fighting internally over how much they lease or sell the land to the government to put the pipes thru/infrastructure on and not being able to figure out how to distribute the money or a leader wanting to keep it all for themselves and their close buddies and basically being in a standoff with the gov to up the price. They don't give a damn about their own people.

Great68 06-25-2024 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9140577)
I was reading about that as well, it sounds like the consensus is coming out that there wasn't all these mass graves of murdered children throughout the country.

It sounds like like there were graves at some of these schools, but buried and dead from likely natural causes, and certainly not by the hundreds.

It was always initially reported as "unmarked graves".

Somewhere along the line, somehow, it got transformed to "mass graves" and picturing open pits where bodies were dumped into, aka Holocaust style. Or some people were simply too dumb to really understand the difference, and then it just got carried away in the misdirected social outrage.

hud 91gt 06-25-2024 02:22 PM

If anyone has spent any real time on a reserve you know these issues are much more complicated then what you see. The above 2 posts are just a tip of the iceberg.

Hondaracer 06-25-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9140608)
It was always initially reported as "unmarked graves".

Somewhere along the line, somehow, it got transformed to "mass graves" and picturing open pits where bodies were dumped into, aka Holocaust style. Or some people were simply too dumb to really understand the difference, and then it just got carried away in the misdirected social outrage.

Yea.. who could be dumb enough to make that mistake..

https://www.youtube.com/live/cusi88Y...RoqNILMITMr0If

Traum 06-25-2024 03:21 PM

I dunno if it is the media machine going full steam on the issue, or whether it is really happening in the background, but the news is widely reporting that within the Liberals Party, the St Paul's loss might just trigger calls for Turd to step down.

We won't know until it actually happens, but it'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.
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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9140534)
Writing is on the wall for JT and the Libs ... a byelection in central Toronto, where Liberals have held seat for 30 years, went to Cons. Like it or not, the blue wave is coming in the next federal election.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bye...vote-1.7243748

But I doubt the attention seeking, egotistical, arrogant JT will step aside as leader of the Libs for the next election.


Manic! 06-25-2024 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9140604)
They are so committed to reconciliation that they can’t even provide the most basic human right? Lol ffs

3rd world Canada

So your voting NDP right?
Right?

https://youtu.be/l3nOq4Ei70A?si=vlSL-aueg9O7JLKU

Hondaracer 06-25-2024 04:24 PM

I’ll vote whoever I need to to cancel your vote, so pull the uno reverse card and vote cons bro

Manic! 06-25-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9140633)
I’ll vote whoever I need to to cancel your vote, so pull the uno reverse card and vote cons bro

But you don't live in my riding. Nice try though.

Klondike 06-25-2024 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9140534)
Writing is on the wall for JT and the Libs ... a byelection in central Toronto, where Liberals have held seat for 30 years, went to Cons. Like it or not, the blue wave is coming in the next federal election.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bye...vote-1.7243748

But I doubt the attention seeking, egotistical, arrogant JT will step aside as leader of the Libs for the next election.


Toronto-St.Pauls has been a Lib safe seat since 1993, even surviving the party being decimated in the 2011 election.

edit: Voter turnout was 44%, in a Summer by-election, in a liberal stronghold. This is big.

Hondaracer 06-25-2024 07:44 PM

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-man-who-ki...jail-1.6933815

westopher 06-25-2024 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9140654)

Guy is going to be the next miles Sanderson. Only hope is someone kills him in jail at that point.

CivicBlues 06-26-2024 08:27 AM

Anyone else at the Snoop and Warren G joint last night?

Anyways, looks like Warren had a rough go at it on... Seymour Street...looks like you may be on to something Honda :lol
https://www.instagram.com/warreng/re...RJsPrTX/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/warreng/re..._9Aynbk/?hl=en

68style 06-26-2024 09:03 AM

I got some audio on the Canada Line yesterday... this guy went on a like a 3 station long rant speaking in almost a Shakespeare accent about how he was molested by boy scout leaders and telling everyone they need to learn to spell and that nobody should cross any line with him, that we're all betraying each other and that 1 lady who got too close to him when she was trying to get off the train was a traitor to Canada and he wouldn't bother explaining what's happening to any of us because it would be a waste of his fucking time... then when he got to Lansdowne he said it was his stop and he was ready to drop the fuckin mic and that since we had entered HIS territorial lands he assumed we were all wonderful people and that we should leave this idiotic robot powered device as brothers and sisters in arms to the tranquility of Lansdowne... Landing down...

It was quite an experience. All the OG Chinese people were just staring silently straight ahead the entire time.

Hondaracer 06-26-2024 09:21 AM

Everyday on transit while you tip toe between the crack pipes

westopher 06-26-2024 09:41 AM

lol imagine trying to run up on Warren G.
Most of these crackheads are too fucked up to fight their way out of a paper bag.

68style 06-26-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9140698)
Everyday on transit while you tip toe between the crack pipes

I'm just curious if you listen to a lot of podcasts???

Guy at my condo's gym talks to me every night and he literally says exactly all the same things that you post here... almost word for word... like it's uncanny...

Besides these talking points, keeps telling me every day that the world is going to shit and Canada is going to shit and the financial system is going to collapse and Biden is practically dead and doesn't make his own decisions and Trudeau is going to get shot in the next 2 years and trannies are going to take over public restrooms to jerk off to kids going pee.

Like honestly he's such a nice dude and always been super nice to me, but he goes for a walk every 2nd night to the end of the Iona Beach jetty and back listening to podcasts from right wing nutjobs and has been getting progressively convinced that he's fighting a war just to survive here.

I don't get it man... like I walk the same paths every day and none of this supposed national anarchy and end of days nonsense that's supposedly happening all around us ever gets in my way or obstructs me. It's bizarre.

I just hate seeing the guy get so paranoid and unhappy for no tangible reason. He used to be a total player too, lots of girls just living his life even at 50+ but now he's saying women don't talk to him anymore etc... well no shit I wonder why lol, who wants to hang out with a dude that thinks everything sucks every day. Not saying that's necessarily YOU... but it does make me kinda worried cuz I think you're a good dude too.

whitev70r 06-26-2024 10:16 AM

maybe guy at condo gym IS Hondaracer?

Traum 06-26-2024 10:22 AM

In the overall big picture, I do think the World is turning into a shxttier place though. The pace of change is obviously different in different places and for different people, but overall, the outlook is not good.

It's not easy trying to stay upbeat despite all the shxt that's happening.

Maybe I should try listening to some of those right wing nutjobs as therapy LOL~

mikemhg 06-26-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9140705)
I'm just curious if you listen to a lot of podcasts???

Guy at my condo's gym talks to me every night and he literally says exactly all the same things that you post here... almost word for word... like it's uncanny...

Besides these talking points, keeps telling me every day that the world is going to shit and Canada is going to shit and the financial system is going to collapse and Biden is practically dead and doesn't make his own decisions and Trudeau is going to get shot in the next 2 years and trannies are going to take over public restrooms to jerk off to kids going pee.

Like honestly he's such a nice dude and always been super nice to me, but he goes for a walk every 2nd night to the end of the Iona Beach jetty and back listening to podcasts from right wing nutjobs and has been getting progressively convinced that he's fighting a war just to survive here.

I don't get it man... like I walk the same paths every day and none of this supposed national anarchy and end of days nonsense that's supposedly happening all around us ever gets in my way or obstructs me. It's bizarre.

I just hate seeing the guy get so paranoid and unhappy for no tangible reason. He used to be a total player too, lots of girls just living his life even at 50+ but now he's saying women don't talk to him anymore etc... well no shit I wonder why lol, who wants to hang out with a dude that thinks everything sucks every day. Not saying that's necessarily YOU... but it does make me kinda worried cuz I think you're a good dude too.

Honda kinda reminds me of a buddy of mine who works for Transit PD.

He listens to Joe Rogan, and watches all those Youtube videos about Vancouver/Portland/Seattle/San Fran is "burning".

While those cities have certainly changed since COVID, they're not Mogadishu hell holes.

We did a trip last year, boys trip to Portland, and my buddy was so nervous heading down there from all the videos he was watching prior, he didn't even want to drink while down there to be "prepared".

Long story short, trip went fine, of course. Outside of less businesses open downtown, nothing else was out of the ordinary, the downtown core is just dead nowadays. The happening bits have simply moved outward to the suburbs (Mississippi street) .

Last day of the trip he end up apologizing to me going "Man, you were right, it was safe and fine, maybe I got a little worked up from those videos".

I chuckled and called him a dork.

Honda, you're my unnamed buddy :lol


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