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Hondaracer 09-04-2024 09:07 AM

Hah.. Jagmeet actually had some balls and pulled the coalition

Manic! 09-04-2024 09:10 AM

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/jagm...rals-1.7024851

Jagmeet Singh pulls NDP out of supply and confidence deal with Trudeau Liberals

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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is pulling his party out of the supply-and-confidence agreement that’s helping keep Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s minority Liberals in power.

In a video posted on social media Wednesday, Singh says he’s decided to cut ties with the governing party ahead of the fall sitting of Parliament because he thinks the Liberals are “too weak” and “too selfish” to fight for the middle class and stop the Conservatives.

“Today I notified the prime minister that I have ripped up the Supply and Confidence Agreement,” Singh says. “The Liberals have let people down. They don’t deserve another chance from Canadians.”

JDMDreams 09-04-2024 09:13 AM

Does this mean early election? So what's it gonna be ndp x pp? It's not like ndp can win themselves

pastarocket 09-04-2024 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9148056)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/jagm...rals-1.7024851

Jagmeet Singh pulls NDP out of supply and confidence deal with Trudeau Liberals



PP Boy and the Cons are jumping with joy with this announcement.

The end is near for Turd and the Liberals. Federal election is looming?

Traum 09-04-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148055)
Hah.. Jagmeet actually had some balls and pulled the coalition

Is that even a good move for him and the NDP though?

Right now, polls are saying support for the major federal parties are as follows:

Cons: close to 40%
Libs: mid 20's
NDP: high teens to low 20's

Unlike things in the US, I don't think there is anything the Libs or the NDP can do to cause a sudden major turn around to bring their support numbers back up. As it stands right now, if we have a federal election soon, both the Libs and the NDP are gonna get massacred.

I am so disgusted by the prospect of PeePee becoming PM, the possibility that Rustad and the renamed BC Liberals would come into power, and all the clusterfuck that will result from idiots voting in these idiots to lead (or mislead) our governments... FailFish

Hondaracer 09-04-2024 09:20 AM

In recent days PP was hard on jagmeet for only supporting the coalition any longer trying to get his pension out of it. He clearly wasn’t achieving anything anymore and the liberals had no interest in any of the NDP’s proposals any longer

Conservative govt. at both provincial and federal levels? Hehe

Hondaracer 09-04-2024 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9148062)
Is that even a good move for him and the NDP though?

Right now, polls are saying support for the major federal parties are as follows:

Cons: close to 40%
Libs: mid 20's
NDP: high teens to low 20's

Unlike things in the US, I don't think there is anything the Libs or the NDP can do to cause a sudden major turn around to bring their support numbers back up. As it stands right now, if we have a federal election soon, both the Libs and the NDP are gonna get massacred.

I am so disgusted by the prospect of PeePee becoming PM, the possibility that Rustad and the renamed BC Liberals would come into power, and all the clusterfuck that will result from idiots voting in these idiots to lead (or mislead) our governments... FailFish

If you’re concerned about the “idiots” the only idiots to blame are the ones who propped up the liberals.

Traum 09-04-2024 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9148058)
The end is near for Turd and the Liberals. Federal election is looming?

For the time being, it's still all politics and saber rattling. Since the NDP is polling quite poorly, I can't see how Singh would want to trigger an election at this point in time. But dropping out of the agreement could potentially help the NDP wring more concessions out of the Liberals for the time being because the Liberals have even more to lose than the NDP if an election happens sooner rather than later.

The NDP move is 100% done in their own self interest, instead of looking for ways to actually help Canadians.

Traum 09-04-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148064)
If you’re concerned about the “idiots” the only idiots to blame are the ones who propped up the liberals.

At the federal level, they are all bad choices, so it comes down to choosing the lesser of the many evils. Unfortunately, our choices now are all so bad in different ways that I really don't know which one is the least harmful.

In the provincial picture, it should be a lot more clear which is the decent choice. But again, sometimes voters don't know what's good for themselves. FailFish

Hondaracer 09-04-2024 09:48 AM

Yea.. many voted themselves into poverty.

murd0c 09-04-2024 10:10 AM

Now cons need to get a non-confidence vote to pass and we can have a Federal election to finally get Trudeau out of there...

JDMDreams 09-04-2024 11:01 AM

Get Trudeau out and put pp in? So he can tell us to buy Bitcoin and fire tiff macklem?

underscore 09-04-2024 11:09 AM

What I was hoping for is that Biden stepping down and letting Harris run goes so well that Trudeau steps down before the next election and the Liberals actually run someone decent.

If the cons win a majority federally or provincially we're all fucked, even the people who think it's a good thing because of their blind dislike of Trudeau. If they both win we're mega fucked.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148063)
In recent days PP was hard on jagmeet for only supporting the coalition any longer trying to get his pension out of it.

That's laughable coming from the career politician who qualified for a full pension younger than anyone ever has.

unit 09-04-2024 11:11 AM

i dont think the libs could put anyone in that could repair the damage that's already been done, and knowing them they would pull a boneheaded move like putting freeland in, someone who is already deeply unpopular.

Hondaracer 09-04-2024 11:13 AM

This whole like “career politician” is such a weird take and always just used in like circumstances where it backs your opinion? Lol

Like ok don’t take a career politician, take a Trump?

Or even Kamala, what you’re a life long govt. schill?

Who do you want then? Elon? RFK?

People seem endlessly confused by this take..

Its all circumstantial, if you’re literally clinging to power at the end of your term and doing anything you can to get over that hump to receive the pension, then ya you’re pretty clearly only doing it for personal benefit.

noclue 09-04-2024 11:18 AM

After trudeau is gone I think Mark Carney is the best to replace him and rebuild the liberal party. Conservatives already branded him a global elite but he comes from a very average family. Just shows how the average Canadian will drag down anyone smarter/successful.

underscore 09-04-2024 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148089)
This whole like “career politician” is such a weird take and always just used in like circumstances where it backs your opinion? Lol

Weird how? He's the one that chose to be a hypocrite. The guy spends a lot of time trying to act like he can relate to normal people when he's never been a normal person.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148089)
ok don’t take a career politician, take a Trump?

Or even Kamala, what you’re a life long govt. schill?

Who do you want then? Elon? RFK?

I want none of those, they're all terrible options. You want someone who was a relatively normal person and then gained a bit of political experience. Not nepo babies.

The catch-22 of politics is that the people who would actually do the job the best don't want anything to do with politics. Which is why I think being a career politician is such a bad thing. Anyone like that is doing it purely to serve their own desire for power and profit, not to actually benefit their country.

Hondaracer 09-04-2024 11:35 AM

Do you think someone like Trudeau who was vastly independently wealthy prior to becoming PM actually had the countries best interests in mind? Ever?

You want to talk about nepotism? How about the fucking guy who wanted to become PM because his clown father was PM? :lol

Like you won’t find a bigger example of nepotism in global politics than the Trudeaus ffs come on :lol

JDMDreams 09-04-2024 11:50 AM

Trump so he can get out of jail?

unit 09-04-2024 12:03 PM

how about trump appointing all his children to high ranking WH positions?
i don't see how trudeau getting democratically elected is a better case for nepotism than literally assigning roles to your kids

underscore 09-04-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148098)
Do you think someone like Trudeau who was vastly independently wealthy prior to becoming PM actually had the countries best interests in mind? Ever?

Not really, but moreso than PP would since he actually had a normal job at one point.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148098)
You want to talk about nepotism? How about the fucking guy who wanted to become PM because his clown father was PM? :lol

Like you won’t find a bigger example of nepotism in global politics than the Trudeaus ffs come on :lol

He still had to be elected. As opposed to Donald appointing his kids to a bunch of positions.

Hondaracer 09-04-2024 12:05 PM

Please, he’s never had to work for anything in his entire life.

GLOW 09-04-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148055)
Hah.. Jagmeet actually had some balls and pulled the coalition

never thought i'd hear of balls and pulling out in the same sentence for canadian politics :lol Kappa

unit 09-04-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148104)
Please, he’s never had to work for anything in his entire life.

well if the conservatives had decent candidates to run against him then he would have hard to work a little.

yray 09-04-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9148104)
Please, he’s never had to work for anything in his entire life.

had to silence his brother :troll:


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