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Lawyers also believe every person has a right to a fair trial.
I guess you are one of those types of people who will do anything for a buck.
I have my doubts about lawyers from Trinity Western, given the institution's stance on gays.
I am not so quick to judge people, especially blue collar workers (and I'm not saying you were going after them, but it also applies to them) who compromise their principals in order to put food on the table and a roof over their head or for their family. If you can understand that individuals will go so far as to murder if it meant preventing their own child from starving to death, then being sympathetic and nonnudgemental over those compromises comes easy. I have that line of telling coal miners to "learn to code" as some similar out of touch and self righteous thinking. All leaders compromise their core beliefs to some extent when operating within a democracy.
I have my doubts about lawyers from Trinity Western, given the institution's stance on gays.
I am not so quick to judge people, especially blue collar workers (and I'm not saying you were going after them, but it also applies to them) who compromise their principals in order to put food on the table and a roof over their head or for their family. If you can understand that individuals will go so far as to murder if it meant preventing their own child from starving to death, then being sympathetic and nonnudgemental over those compromises comes easy. I have that line of telling coal miners to "learn to code" as some similar out of touch and self righteous thinking. All leaders compromise their core beliefs to some extent when operating within a democracy.
Gay marriage came into law under Stephen Harper even though he's stated it as being vile and disgusting. During the last election, reporters kept asking him if he would ban it again if he was reelected. He stated many many times that it's law and that he respects that and that the issue would not be reopened. It's possible possible for someone to put their beliefs aside for the job.
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Putting your beliefs aside, and not doing something because you are aware of the consequences of doing so are two different things.
There are ways to negatively affect the LGBTQ community that are beyond simply repealing gay marriage rights.
Feel free to read an example below if you are interested.
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United Conservative Party Leader Jason Kenney on Tuesday defended his pledge to proclaim the Education Act (2014), which would remove the prohibition on parental notification if a child joins a gay-straight alliance.
Kenney has faced backlash from LGBTQ advocates, teachers and parents since he announced the UCP education platform on Monday. A UCP government would proclaim the former Progressive Conservative government's Education Act (2014) to replace the NDP's amended School Act.
On Tuesday, Kenney said his party's proposal would offer the strongest legal protections for GSAs in Canada.
"We support GSAs," Kenney said at an event in Edmonton Tuesday. "Our Education Act will have the strongest legal protection for GSAs of any province in Canada."
The Education Act (2014) included a provision to allow gay-straight alliances — school clubs meant to make LGBTQ students feel safe and welcome — if students wanted them.
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In November 2017, the NDP government passed Bill 24, amending the School Act. The legislation prohibits schools from telling parents if their child joins a GSA. Some Albertans say the law interferes with a parent's right to know what their children are doing at school.
Kenney said the UCP is not proposing mandatory parental notification. He said it would be up to teachers to decide whether it is in the best interest of a child to tell their parents that they are involved with a GSA. Such notification would not be common, he said.
"I think it would be very rare," Kenney said. "Probably only dealing with very young kids or kids with unique emotional and mental health challenges."
Advocate says UCP plan to revert to old gay-straight alliance rules an attack
Bill to shield LGBTQ students from early outing passes in legislature
The leaders of the NDP and Alberta Party say the UCP's proposal would hurt vulnerable children who rely on peer support groups as a safe space for figuring out their sexual orientation and gender identity.
NDP Leader Rachel Notley said Kenney's proposal will out LGBTQ students before they are prepared to disclose their sexual orientation with their parents.
She urged Kenney to talk to experts, families and kids.
"The announcement Mr. Kenney made yesterday will have very cruel and hurtful consequences and I think he should reconsider," Notley said. "Albertans deserve better."
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Alberta Party Leader Stephen Mandel called Kenney's proposal "abhorrent." He said 40 per cent of kids who live on the streets are from the LGBTQ community.
"And by him making that decision, he threw those kids out the door."
"I think it's terrible. I think he should be ashamed."
The Alberta Teachers' Association, which represents 45,000 teachers, identified "very concerning issues" in the UCP platform, said ATA president Greg Jeffery.
From increasing standardized testing of students to continual recertification of teachers, Jeffery said the proposals are "unnecessary and insulting."
Jeffery said the ideas to impose more testing on students and teachers, resurrect and expand ideas from what he called the "discredited 2014 task force on teacher excellence."
Under the NDP, it was illegal for teachers to tell parents if their kids were in gay-straight alliances at school, Jeffery said.
"That provided comfort for teachers because they knew where they stood," he said. "It made it very clear, and teachers welcomed that clarity."
Kenney's proposed change would put that onus back on teachers, he said.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Like I said, I would never elect someone who has ingrained hatred in them.
Not sure what your point is though... Is the person posting those signs a candidate for Prime Minister?
While this man may not be running for prime minister, still a person of authority.
Younus Kathrada is an imam in Victoria who stated in his sermon this Christmas that murder was a less punishable crime than wishing non Muslims a merry Christmas.
Here is the only mainstream Canadian news article i could find that covered it,weeks after his sermon aired i might add. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadi...text-1.4243380
Here is what he teaches young Muslims about homosexuality https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php...15113535182346
Can you just imagine the outage from the lgbt community if a practising priest were espousing such anguish?
Surprisingly silent on this though.
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While this man may not be running for prime minister, still a person of authority.
Younus Kathrada is an imam in Victoria who stated in his sermon this Christmas that murder was a less punishable crime than wishing non Muslims a merry Christmas.
Here is the only mainstream Canadian news article i could find that covered it,weeks after his sermon aired i might add. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadi...text-1.4243380
Here is what he teaches young Muslims about homosexuality https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php...15113535182346
Can you just imagine the outage from the lgbt community if a practising priest were espousing such anguish?
Surprisingly silent on this though.
What he hell does that have to do with the election? He is not running for any office.
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Because Scheer has said repeatedly that the topic will not be open for voting in to law with a Conservative government. You reposted a video dug up and edited out of context by a member of the Liberal caucus from 14 years ago. In reference to a bill that 30+ Liberals voted against as well. In the article you just posted it makes the point that under Harper's leadership there were even more pro-life MP's but the topic still wasn't open for change.
But I guess I can understand why you don't trust a politicians word when you have Justin Trudeau as the head of the Liberal party. The guy who has broken a pile of his election promises, is guilty (twice) of ethics violations, is still under investigation by the RCMP, and hid photos of himself in blackface from numerous occassions which would have prevented him from even being a candidate for his party let alone the fucking Prime Minister. He's a liar, a hypocrite, and a corrupt fraud.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Justin Trudeau will go down as the worst PM in the history of this country. He is a complete fucking embarrassment to Canadians.
Because Scheer has said repeatedly that the topic will not be open for voting in to law with a Conservative government. You reposted a video dug up and edited out of context by a member of the Liberal caucus from 14 years ago. In reference to a bill that 30+ Liberals voted against as well. In the article you just posted it makes the point that under Harper's leadership there were even more pro-life MP's but the topic still wasn't open for change.
But I guess I can understand why you don't trust a politicians word when you have Justin Trudeau as the head of the Liberal party. The guy who has broken a pile of his election promises, is guilty (twice) of ethics violations, is still under investigation by the RCMP, and hid photos of himself in blackface from numerous occassions which would have prevented him from even being a candidate for his party let alone the fucking Prime Minister. He's a liar, a hypocrite, and a corrupt fraud.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Justin Trudeau will go down as the worst PM in the history of this country. He is a complete fucking embarrassment to Canadians.
worst PM in the history but somehow we have the lowest unemployment rate in history.
scheer has never apologized for that video and still feels the same way. Nothing has changed.
We also have 50 secret candidates part of a pro life group that want to ban abortion. If they get elected will scheer let them introduce laws making it harder to get abortions or will he kick them out of the party?
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worst PM in the history but somehow we have the lowest unemployment rate in history. This number is artificially low because so many people have to work two and three jobs to make ends meet. The same is happening in the US. The US Fed has had to drop interests rates twice this year and repo tens of billions of dollars to increase liquidity in the banks and keep the economy churning. The economy is not strong and is slowing, and Canada and the US's economies are very intertwined. Short answer: your point is moot and has nothing to do with Trudeau. He has however put us almost 20 billion dollars in debt in four years and the budget hasn't balanced itself.
scheer has never apologized for that video and still feels the same way. Nothing has changed. He doesn't have anything to apologize for. The video is edited out of context and Liberals voted alongside. His policy HAS changed and same-sex marriage and abortion laws will not be repealed under his government.
The rest of your post is rhetorical deflecting nonsense.
JT is pretty bad on how he's done so far. The integrity of a PM should never be in question, I can't see him winning this election. But worst in history is a stretch. Looking up a list of ranked PMs by historians, John Tupper frequents the bottom.
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worst PM in the history but somehow we have the lowest unemployment rate in history.
This number is artificially low because so many people have to work two and three jobs to make ends meet. The same is happening in the US. The US Fed has had to drop interests rates twice this year and repo tens of billions of dollars to increase liquidity in the banks and keep the economy churning. The economy is not strong and is slowing, and Canada and the US's economies are very intertwined. Short answer: your point is moot and has nothing to do with Trudeau. He has however put us almost 20 billion dollars in debt in four years and the budget hasn't balanced itself.
scheer has never apologized for that video and still feels the same way. Nothing has changed.
He doesn't have anything to apologize for. The video is edited out of context and Liberals voted alongside. His policy HAS changed and same-sex marriage and abortion laws will not be repealed under his government.
The rest of your post is rhetorical deflecting nonsense.
I will say it again we have plenty of good paying jobs in a variety of industries that are going unfulfilled. If you want I can list them for you again.
Also scheer still thinks homosexuality is a sin. He has not changed.
He may not publicly support it during the campaign but he will not stop any of his mp's from bringing up new legislation.
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“Nothing has changed for our party on this issue,” he said. “This is the same way we operate – which is under the same policies as the previous Conservative government – which is that individual MPs have the right to express themselves on matters of conscience.”
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I will say it again we have plenty of good paying jobs in a variety of industries that are going unfulfilled. If you want I can list them for you again. And? So? Is the unemployment rate supposed to be 0%? I don't know what point you're trying to make with this statement and frankly I don't think you do either.
Also scheer still thinks homosexuality is a sin. He has not changed. Irrelevant. Actions > Words, your PM fails at both.
He may not publicly support it during the campaign but he will not stop any of his mp's from bringing up new legislation.
This is a flat out lie, and the quote you've presented is done so incomplete and without context. Scheer is saying the Conservative party will remain in line with the previous Harper Conservative government in its policies surrounding these issues: the laws are not going to be changed. He will allow his constituents to speak freely on the matter but no legislation will be tabled. This is called Freedom of Speech, the opposite of what Trudeau enforces on his MP's.
You are completely deflective and continue to produce no real argument while using false narratives. How embarrassing. We're done here.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Justin Trudeau will go down as the worst PM in the history of this country. He is a complete fucking embarrassment to Canadians.
It's usually not in my character to take pleasure in someone's misfortune...
But i am quite enjoying seeing Manic! getting absolutelyTROUNCED
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worst PM in the history but somehow we have the lowest unemployment rate in history.
I said this in a different thread but a rising tide lifts all boats. I attribute this more to the American economy than Trudeau. As America's second biggest trading partner, we do well when America does well. If Trump was more tolerant towards immigrants and work visas, we probably wouldn't have these tech jobs here.
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Initially i thought that this was some sort of costume party, but the telegraph has reported that it was actually a "black tie" event where Trudeau was the only one wearing any sort of costume.
How awkward.
also quite misleading if true
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Only logical explanation i can figure is that he mistook the word "tie" for "face"
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
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it's not some highly classified whistle-blown clandestine event...it was from a yearbook from local high school circa the time when some of us probably attended
anyways, i'm so fucking ready for oct 21...tired of all the different campaigns 24/7, i dont know how americans can stand what feels like 18 months of campaigns
The former leader of a U.S. neo-Nazi group, a former Soldiers of Odin member and a Pegida Canada official were among those whose signatures were submitted to Elections Canada last year to officially register the People’s Party of Canada, records show.
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it's not some highly classified whistle-blown clandestine event...it was from a yearbook from local high school circa the time when some of us probably attended
Kinda sad, isn't it? To have to rely on 'foreign sources' to get a detailed description.
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Hey Welfare are you going to tell me the PPC is not racist.
Do you think the liberal party is racist for Trudeau taking Faith Goldy for drinks?
Of course not. Because tarring and feathering an entire party based off one person who attached themselves to it at some point is something only a moron would do.
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