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09-24-2019, 07:51 AM
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^I wouldn't call it moronic. Repeat a lie long enough and it becomes truth. They keep beating that drum and the PPC can't get it's message out. Dirty politics. Quote:
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Instead of covering our policies, some media are still trying to link the PPC to racism and intolerance. This is despicable.
So let me repeat: our members and candidates come from all religious and ethnic backgrounds, and there is NO ROOM for bigotry in our party.
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09-24-2019, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic!  The guy apologized unlike scheer. | Unless someone is ready to leave their religion, I don't think anyone should apologize for their religious beliefs.
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09-24-2019, 09:44 AM
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It's so hard to get people to look at the facts once the narratives are out there and people adopt them as "truth"
I have this issue when talking to people about looking at the actual issues and policies. They just say "well, they are a racist" there's no conversation after that and other wise. As much as I do not align with the Liberal party I always try to get down to the actual policies that would affect me, this does not seem to be the way a lot of people look at these.
My facebook is full of friends that condemn people for even considering voting Conservative or PPC. I wish there was a way to convince people to look at the facts, and have them build their own narrative about the parties/politicians. I am not telling people to not vote Liberal, I am saying that if I don't vote liberal, I have my reasons for it that are based on my research.
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09-24-2019, 10:00 AM
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#729 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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I wish my FB friends at least did some research and discussed policies. I'd take that any day over the fake news they constantly share/re-post without actually doing any goddamn research.
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09-24-2019, 11:15 AM
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#730 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by welfare Kinda sad, isn't it? To have to rely on 'foreign sources' to get a detailed description.
Do you think the liberal party is racist for Trudeau taking Faith Goldy for drinks?
Of course not. Because tarring and feathering an entire party based off one person who attached themselves to it at some point is something only a moron would do. | Faith Goldy is not a founding member of the Liberal party and her former boss is not running the Liberal parties campaign.
He needed 250 signatures. He could have gotten anyone including you to sign but instead he got a person who started the Canadian chapter of Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident.
You would think he would be proud of the 250 people that signed. Hey look these are 250 great Canadians that helped found our party, but no. He has been trying to keep that list secret. I wounder who else is on that list.
One of his own candidates asked him to denounce racism. Instead of denouncing racism he fired the candidate. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys ^I wouldn't call it moronic. Repeat a lie long enough and it becomes truth. They keep beating that drum and the PPC can't get it's message out. Dirty politics.
That should be the end of it, but it won't be. You can keep putting out debunked or addressed headlines it will burrow into the public subconscious while the truth becomes easily ignored and drowned out. |
Talk is cheap.
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09-24-2019, 11:23 AM
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| Munk Debates cancels foreign-policy event because Trudeau won't attend
So our dear Prime Minister has declined to attend a public debate on foreign policy while Scheer, Singh, and May have all agreed to go.
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09-24-2019, 12:54 PM
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#732 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Manic! Faith Goldy is not a founding member of the Liberal party and her former boss is not running the Liberal parties campaign.
He needed 250 signatures. He could have gotten anyone including you to sign but instead he got a person who started the Canadian chapter of Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident.
You would think he would be proud of the 250 people that signed. Hey look these are 250 great Canadians that helped found our party, but no. He has been trying to keep that list secret. I wounder who else is on that list.
One of his own candidates asked him to denounce racism. Instead of denouncing racism he fired the candidate. | I would terminate his candidacy too. What he asked him to do was insulting.
He can denounce racism until the cows come home. It won't keep people like you from marching with your pitchforks out because you're ideologically possessed. That is, nothing he can do will change your mind.
If you think Bernier, his policies, or his party are racist, that's fine. It's not fact, but opinion. And I really don't care what yours is.
You vote as you please and I'll do the same.
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09-24-2019, 12:57 PM
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#733 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Traum | I thought it was already determined several weeks ago that he would only be attending the two sanctioned federal debates and not munk or Maclean's
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09-24-2019, 01:10 PM
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#734 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Can you imagine Trudeau showing up to the G20 or the United Nations with this whole blackface thing hanging over him?
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09-24-2019, 01:24 PM
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#735 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Manic! Faith Goldy is not a founding member of the Liberal party and her former boss is not running the Liberal parties campaign.
He needed 250 signatures. He could have gotten anyone including you to sign but instead he got a person who started the Canadian chapter of Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident.
You would think he would be proud of the 250 people that signed. Hey look these are 250 great Canadians that helped found our party, but no. He has been trying to keep that list secret. I wounder who else is on that list.
One of his own candidates asked him to denounce racism. Instead of denouncing racism he fired the candidate.
Talk is cheap. | The anti-statue brigade would have a field day with the founding members of the Liberal Party.
Is it common practice to do background checks when collecting signatures? I don't care if Hitler himself signed for a party to become qualified. As I understand it, signatures are not an act of endorsement of that party by the signer nor are they a membership approval by the party to those who signed. If the. Cat Lady Party was looking for the required signatures to enter politics, I would likely provide my signature, even if I don't like cats or cat ladies. The reason being is that they are attempting to participate in democracy so why not, it's not like I'd vote for them.
One of the PPC members falsely calls out racism in the party and ignores all the inclusivity and tolerance the party has been speaking of from the beginning, harming the party and its message, and you wonder why he was fired? It's almost like he was a plant, as the PPC quickly worked to add more candidates, in an attempt to derail their campaign. It would not surprise me in the least given the efforts to suppress and ignore them by the CBC and friends.
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09-24-2019, 02:32 PM
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#736 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by josayeee Can you imagine Trudeau showing up to the G20 or the United Nations with this whole blackface thing hanging over him? | Imagine showing up to the G20 with an impeachment inquiry hanging over your head.
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09-24-2019, 02:45 PM
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Imagine showing up for the g20 while the commonwealth is trying to split from the European Union and you are steering that catastrophe.
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09-24-2019, 02:55 PM
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#738 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Imagine showing up for the G20 in an Infiniti G20
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09-24-2019, 02:57 PM
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#739 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by welfare I would terminate his candidacy too. What he asked him to do was insulting.
He can denounce racism until the cows come home. It won't keep people like you from marching with your pitchforks out because you're ideologically possessed. That is, nothing he can do will change your mind.
If you think Bernier, his policies, or his party are racist, that's fine. It's not fact, but opinion. And I really don't care what yours is.
You vote as you please and I'll do the same. | I am actually glad you are voting for him the more the better. Fact is majority of Canadians will vote for a left leaning party this election. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys The anti-statue brigade would have a field day with the founding members of the Liberal Party.
Is it common practice to do background checks when collecting signatures? I don't care if Hitler himself signed for a party to become qualified. As I understand it, signatures are not an act of endorsement of that party by the signer nor are they a membership approval by the party to those who signed. If the. Cat Lady Party was looking for the required signatures to enter politics, I would likely provide my signature, even if I don't like cats or cat ladies. The reason being is that they are attempting to participate in democracy so why not, it's not like I'd vote for them.
One of the PPC members falsely calls out racism in the party and ignores all the inclusivity and tolerance the party has been speaking of from the beginning, harming the party and its message, and you wonder why he was fired? It's almost like he was a plant, as the PPC quickly worked to add more candidates, in an attempt to derail their campaign. It would not surprise me in the least given the efforts to suppress and ignore them by the CBC and friends. | Was he standing on a street corner asking for signatures? He couldn't get 250 people he knew to sign? if the signitures don't matter he should release the names. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/max...tion-1.4856793 Quote: |
Bernier deposited the signatures of about 500 party members with Elections Canada on Wednesday, more than the 250 required.
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09-24-2019, 06:48 PM
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#740 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Manic! I am actually glad you are voting for him the more the better. | Yet you're on here trying to discredit his party 
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09-24-2019, 06:50 PM
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#741 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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The only party (as far as I'm aware) pledging to repeal and replace the Indian Act.
Damn racists https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/p...lected-1707240 Quote:
Bernier said if elected, his party would explore options to repeal the “paternalistic Indian Act” which he says, “keeps aboriginals in a state of dependency and allows the federal government to control most aspects of their lives.”
He explained that his party would look at replacing the Act with “a new legal framework that guarantees equal rights and responsibilities to aboriginal people as Canadians and promotes the autonomy and self-reliance of communities.”
Bernier made it clear there would be consultation moving forward, and his governnment will respect the Constitution and treaties.
“It will reaffirm the federal government’s power to approve natural resources and infrastructure projects, after adequate consultations with affected aboriginal groups, and in partnership with them to ensure they can benefit from these economic opportunities.”
Bernier said the PPC would prioritize issues on the basis of its four key principles, respect, freedom, fairness and responsibility.
On the principle of respect, Bernier referred to injustices committed out by the Canadian government.
“We cannot rewrite the past, but only seek the best way to live together in the future. This relationship must be based on mutual respect and a balanced approach between the needs of the aboriginal population and the interests of the Canadian population as a whole.”
Regarding the freedom principle, Bernier said he would be willing to explore avenues to promote the establishment of individual property rights on reserves.
“So as to empower its residents and give them increased control over their lives.”
When it comes to fairness, Bernier says it is unacceptable that some aboriginal communities live in conditions no better than those in some third world countries.
“A People’s Party government will ensure that aboriginal communities assume more ownership of their infrastructure and the services they receive in partnership with Ottawa and other levels of government.”
And on his final principle, responsibility, Bernier told the crowd, there is no evidence that living conditions are improving in aboriginal communities despite Ottawa spending about $21 billion a year on aboriginal programs.
He went on to say the federal government and aboriginal administrations have a responsibility to ensure that taxpayer’s money is well spent.
"A People's Party government will review federal spending to ensure that programs are better targeted to benefit the aboriginal population, in particular the communities that have the greatest needs."
The PPC leader acknowledged that some communities are prosperous, while others are much poorer than the Canadian average..
“Many don’t have the basic services that we take for granted, such as access to clean water. There are other major issues to address regarding treaty negotiations, housing, and property rights on reserves.”
Bernier pledged to review federal spending to ensure that “programs are better targeted to benefit the aboriginal population, in particular the communities that have the greatest needs. We need to do reform. We need to do consultation.”
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09-24-2019, 07:14 PM
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#742 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Fuck the environment, I want our government to have a plan for the shit that's going to happen envitably. The floods, forest fires, blizzards to come. At this rate, I don't see any country lowering emissions. Waiting for the next nuclear energy revolution.
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09-24-2019, 07:18 PM
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#743 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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I'd like the see a deal with the Indians. Infrastructure, housing. education, support for the trade that within a specific time frame, they will not receive any further support just because they were Indians. I see it as, they were here first, ok, but we brought land development. If NA was never discovered, i'm sure they'd be just as advanced and at tribal wars as much as the uncontacted ones in the Amazon. No deal? They can continue to develop their land on their own.
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09-24-2019, 07:19 PM
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#744 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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The government works for us, shouldn't we be the ones telling them what we want?
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09-24-2019, 08:30 PM
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09-24-2019, 08:55 PM
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#746 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by DragonChi Fuck the environment, I want our government to have a plan for the shit that's going to happen envitably. The floods, forest fires, blizzards to come. At this rate, I don't see any country lowering emissions. Waiting for the next nuclear energy revolution. | The BC government for sure does, at least to some extent. My hospital (Nanaimo Regional) is the subject of an ongoing climate change case study that started in 2015 and I know our health authority and other health authorities in the province are using data from the study for new projects. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/en...n-hospital.pdf
(I’m the ugly dude reading in the back)
I would imagine they’re doing the same thing with school districts, public works, etc.
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09-24-2019, 09:59 PM
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#747 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by DragonChi I'd like the see a deal with the Indians. Infrastructure, housing. education, support for the trade that within a specific time frame, they will not receive any further support just because they were Indians. I see it as, they were here first, ok, but we brought land development. If NA was never discovered, i'm sure they'd be just as advanced and at tribal wars as much as the uncontacted ones in the Amazon. No deal? They can continue to develop their land on their own. | The question is what is "their" land?
This province in particular is extraordinarily rich with history of natives stretching back thousands of years.
There are at least 50 land claims by over 60 nations spanning almost the entire province. And that is just the nations participating in negotiations. https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link...3-c890a4407e9c
Regardless of how long our governments stall (and they have been for many decades), these claims aren't going to just go away.
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09-24-2019, 10:04 PM
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#748 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Am I reading this right? Some of the land claims overlap...
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09-24-2019, 10:14 PM
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09-24-2019, 10:46 PM
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#750 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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On a lighter note, Jagmeet Singh drives a 2008 BMW Z4M Coupe. Good taste. I'm marginally more interested in him now.  https://www.mississauga.com/communit...-finer-things/ (article is from 2011, but the car was also alluded to in a 2017 interview)
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