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JDMDreams 11-27-2024 11:10 AM

We have no choice but to start a trade war, they want a trade war we give them one. Turn off the water and electricity taps. Or do you prefer to be a good soft Canadian and bend over with a negotiated 15% tariff, nothing is stopping them with starting another round of sanctions or tariffs on us. If we don't buy enough weapons from them to give to NATO or Ukrainian or Israel. How about this we just go on strike as a whole country and stop selling shipping stuff to us. Since we're so good at strikes

Hondaracer 11-27-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9156218)
Ive said this to a lot of people, we literally have wealth underneath our feet. We have land! we have natural resources, we have fresh water and minerals. Oil and Gas.

Our natural endowment is god given and thus we should be one of the most prosperous nations on earth (we kinda were at one point).

But we give that shit away for peanuts. LITERAL peanuts. I see exports and imports all day long, that's my job. All I see is the declared value of our resources going out at like 1-2 dollars per TON while we import shit that are few hundred dollars per lb.

We are squandering this wealth. We should be charging all these fuckers an arm and a leg for our materials because in reality go get it from somewhere else then. you literally cant. this is especially true for the US. The fact that they got us by the balls and not reverse makes no sense when they are heavily dependent on Canadian resources for their standard of living.

Fuck this bullshit. MAKE CANADA GREAT AGAIN!

MACA!

and if your first nations and your crying about your land, fuck you. you should have killed more whiteys 200 years ago okay. that ship's sailed. all your treaties are horseshit, you are Canadian now just like the rest of us. you shouldn't get any special treatment anymore just like hondaracer shouldn't have to apologize for his ancestors and what they did 200 years ago.

Bra.. that ship has sailed

We could have been Norway but instead we’re Haiti.

We fucked over our entire country for the sake of virtue signaling. We didn’t even utilize our resources to transition AWAY from fossil fuels, we walked away from industry and sold it off to corporations that gave us NOTHING in return.

It’s done, there’s no going back on that. The revenue from what you’re talking about could have solved almost all our issues. And now we’re begging food banks to stay open later.

Traum 11-27-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9156198)
A co worker and I were discussing another strategy that "Team Canada" could follow in response to Trump's threats of a 25 percent tariff on Canadian exports.

What if Canada jacked up the utility rates on electricity and water that is exported to the U.S?

If the Americans want electricity from Canada, Canada can jack up the utility rates by 300 percent. They want our bottled water? Jack up the price of freshwater exports.

Apparently, Quebec and Ontario sell a lot of electrictiy down to eastern states, so it could be a viable response for us to take if Trump makes good on the 25% tariff threat. But as soon as we dig deeper, it becomes a lot more complicated than that.

A lot of the power that Ontario and Quebec sells to the eastern states appears to come from hydro, and the problem with hydro power is -- you can't really bottle it up and sell it to someone else. So if ON/QC don't sell to the US, they just become excess power that ON/QC wouldn't know what to do with.

And then it kind of goes back into being a game of chicken / who blinks first.

With water, personally I wouldn't mind if we stop selling it to the US. It's a precious resource, and we (Canada) should have better water management policies to ensure that we can protect this precious resource for future generations (of Canadians). In theory, US has enough water resources within US to satisfy their needs too. It's just that when they buy from us, it's easier / cheaper for them to do so, so they do it.

So again, if we retialiate and add tariffs to our water exports, it becomes the another game of chicken / who blinks first, and both sides end up losing.

I honestly don't know how to deal with this Orange shxthead... FailFish

Manic! 11-27-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9156217)


Well Bush was hanging out with kids in a classroom while 9/11 was happening. He did not even stop after finding out a second plane hit.

Quote:

According to the Chief of Staff (the one who whispered in his ear), the words he whispered were "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack."


Badhobz 11-27-2024 11:23 AM

its a crying shame to see my fellow Canadians suffer due to the short-sightedness from the horseshit government.

Ill give you a perfect example:

We at the port of Vancouver have been trying to get another HUGE container terminal underway at roberts bank for years now. There's been one road block after another either due to native treaties, or environmental shit (some stupid bitch ass sea bird) and now a lot of shippers have moved either to Seattle/Tacoma or just skipped this coast and routed via europe to east coast USA.

We needed this container terminal 10 years ago as the terminals in the inner harbor downtown are too small to accommodate the volumes we are getting.

So instead of giving local residents over 1000+ new jobs, a better standard of living, and protecting our industry, we elected to save a few fucking birds and some native land shit.

You know who could have been working there? ALL OF YOUS! all of your kids, bic baws wouldn't only have 50 bucks in this bank cuz I would have been able to get him a job there. and what did we get instead? BITCH ASS BIRDS. FUCK YOU BIRD. FUCK YOU WHALE AND DOLPHIN


MarkyMark 11-27-2024 12:22 PM

Is that terminal ever happening I thought they greenlit it over a year ago? Will just be years of BCMEA and the Longshoremen fighting over the automation of it as well, you ain't getting no one a job there it'll go to every members kid or some shit

westopher 11-27-2024 12:23 PM

lol like anyone with a higher than grade 9 education and less than 6 prior convictions would have been considered for a job there.

Badhobz 11-27-2024 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9156232)
Is that terminal ever happening I thought they greenlit it over a year ago? Will just be years of BCMEA and the Longshoremen fighting over the automation of it as well, you ain't getting no one a job there it'll go to every members kid or some shit

That’s exactly it. It’s green lit but there are hundreds of special interest groups who wants to put their opinions / objectives and will ultimately delay or kill this project completely.

By the time it finally break ground (if even) it’ll be under serving the needs of the industry again as usual.

pastarocket 11-27-2024 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9156224)
its a crying shame to see my fellow Canadians suffer due to the short-sightedness from the horseshit government.

Ill give you a perfect example:

We at the port of Vancouver have been trying to get another HUGE container terminal underway at roberts bank for years now. There's been one road block after another either due to native treaties, or environmental shit (some stupid bitch ass sea bird) and now a lot of shippers have moved either to Seattle/Tacoma or just skipped this coast and routed via europe to east coast USA.

We needed this container terminal 10 years ago as the terminals in the inner harbor downtown are too small to accommodate the volumes we are getting.

So instead of giving local residents over 1000+ new jobs, a better standard of living, and protecting our industry, we elected to save a few fucking birds and some native land shit.

You know who could have been working there? ALL OF YOUS! all of your kids, bic baws wouldn't only have 50 bucks in this bank cuz I would have been able to get him a job there. and what did we get instead? BITCH ASS BIRDS. FUCK YOU BIRD. FUCK YOU WHALE AND DOLPHIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxsuvWNtQ44

-very sad for the state of our country's economy. We have a third world rated federal government. Maybe third world rated for our provincial and civic governments too. :facepalm:

Heck, even some Somali pirates could build a port terminal quicker and manage it better than our dumbass government officials.

CivicBlues 11-27-2024 12:48 PM

LOL @ Canada being compared to Haiti and Somalia

Get a grip for fucks sake.

Dbone 11-27-2024 12:54 PM

Maybe the ports need some better PR.

People just see diesel leaks in English Bay, dead whales, and ugly ass ships in our harbor all so that local mobsters, and Dubai princes make money. No way will my kids ever have the opportunity to become a harbor pilot, and the kid next door isn't going to have an 'in' to become a stevedore (and why would he anyway, it's all going to be robots soon).

I once moved a container in (importing my Lotus) and the price to unload was retarded. That just made it seem like I was being ripped off. (DP world indeed)

In the spirit of today's politics I will just assume everything I just said is a fact.:pokerface: Just like how Honda seems to think Trudeau should be managing a riot somehow.

spoon.ek9 11-27-2024 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9156218)
Ive said this to a lot of people, we literally have wealth underneath our feet. We have land! we have natural resources, we have fresh water and minerals. Oil and Gas.

Our natural endowment is god given and thus we should be one of the most prosperous nations on earth (we kinda were at one point).

But we give that shit away for peanuts. LITERAL peanuts. I see exports and imports all day long, that's my job. All I see is the declared value of our resources going out at like 1-2 dollars per TON while we import shit that are few hundred dollars per lb.

We are squandering this wealth. We should be charging all these fuckers an arm and a leg for our materials because in reality go get it from somewhere else then. you literally cant. this is especially true for the US. The fact that they got us by the balls and not reverse makes no sense when they are heavily dependent on Canadian resources for their standard of living.

Fuck this bullshit. MAKE CANADA GREAT AGAIN!

MACA!

and if your first nations and your crying about your land, fuck you. you should have killed more whiteys 200 years ago okay. that ship's sailed. all your treaties are horseshit, you are Canadian now just like the rest of us. you shouldn't get any special treatment anymore just like hondaracer shouldn't have to apologize for his ancestors and what they did 200 years ago.

This has always been the problem. We studied this shit in high school social studies decades ago. I've never understood why we sell our resources for pennies and buy them back as finished products for exponentially more. We just don't put any effort into manufacturing for some reason. Nestle has been taking advantage of our water supply for how many decades now? Simple shit like this hasn't been corrected and likely never will be until some significant changes are made. Who knows, maybe trade war is the catalyst. I highly suspect Canadian politicians won't have the back bone for it though.

Badhobz 11-27-2024 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9156236)
LOL @ Canada being compared to Haiti and Somalia

Get a grip for fucks sake.

At least those guys are able to find a terminal operator (Chinese).

By the time we get all the regulatory bs done, we still need somebody to build and operate this new terminal. God forbid the government would actually own and operate a terminal itself with all the profits going to Canada.

No, instead the only ones that are likely to bid are

dpworld (Saudi owned)
Hutchison (basically Chinese government)
sSA / Carrix (American)

But why would they want to undertake this when we have such unsteady labor relations and the potential for striking at a drop of a hat ? You can’t win around here.

JDMDreams 11-27-2024 01:22 PM

Bro they are still on strike aren't they? Since we love unions and strikes so much we should just fire all the Canada Post mail man, pay suck deep $18 an hour and get them to deliver 24/7 since they are delivering 4-8 am already. We don't even need trucks anymore just get them to use their own cars. We can hire twice the number of employees for what we are paying to union guys right now.

Badhobz 11-27-2024 01:29 PM

You talking about the longshore ?

The local longshore foreman’s are under binding arbitration so they are forced back to work by the government and whatever agreement they end up settling with the mediator is what they’ll get.

Ultimately both sides lose as nobody is happy and we’ll do this all over again in 1-3 years because that’s just how these collective agreements are signed.

JDMDreams 11-27-2024 01:31 PM

Same with the ports, bro you guys are fighting robots just so you can get paid $60h a hour as a unskilled labourer? Hire 3 suck deeps at $20 and you can have x3 the amount of workers.

Only in Canada can you be the shittiest in the world yet bitch about higher pay.

Out of 348 global container ports, Vancouver is ranked 347 with some of the world's longest vessel wait-times

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6873992

Hondaracer 11-27-2024 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9156236)
LOL @ Canada being compared to Haiti and Somalia

Get a grip for fucks sake.

Shut your Hatian mouth! Back to the favelas with you

JDMDreams 11-27-2024 01:40 PM

9 Major Ports of India makes it to Global Top 100 by World Bank, a First for the country: Shri Sarbananda Sonowal

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIfram...%20Nehru%20(96).

:fulloffuck:

sonick 11-27-2024 01:55 PM

What's everyone's thoughts on Globe and Mail as a publication?

I have some perks with my Wealthsimple account, one of which I can use towards a 1yr subscription to Globe and Mail and I am considering it.

I sometimes come across business articles and stock articles from G&M that is paywalled, but I am not sure if the rest of the content is worth using the perk towards it.

Also none of the other perks really stand out to be very useful either.

JDMDreams 11-27-2024 02:48 PM

I thought it's free iPhones, lol the articles are paywalled so I dunno if they any good, but I just mostly read financial post

Hondaracer 11-27-2024 02:57 PM

Hahahahahaha

Freeland pulls the welfare cheque bill because now Jagmeet pulling support

https://apple.news/AiOCzx-_gSViu5YWJQYsa2w

Jesus Christ we are so fucking stupid here

Freeland with her shit eating grin announcing “heh people want to get together these holidays”

Yea, nice plan ya fucking morons.

CivicBlues 11-27-2024 03:03 PM

What? Tasting menu is off the menu boys! :okay:

FUcK yooou Truuudooooooo!!!!

Hondaracer 11-27-2024 03:09 PM

This is so embarrassing.

JDMDreams 11-27-2024 03:14 PM

Bro I can't even get cactus now, how am I gonna see some titties and fill my tank of gas in Dec

westopher 11-27-2024 03:14 PM

Truly all parties are complete fucking retards here.
Perfect example of absolutely petulant little children in government. Zero interest from any party to govern for citizens. Jagmeet takes his ball and goes home.


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