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noclue 12-12-2024 05:35 PM

Give me a source he’s worth a hundred billion, maybe the market cap of brookfield’s subsidaries. Too much rebel news.

Out of touch? He grew up in edmonton in a regular family but had the talent to go to harvard. Was also appointed as bank of canada governor by the messiah stephen harper of the conservatives

Mikoyan 12-12-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by noclue (Post 9157817)
Give me a source he’s worth a hundred billion, maybe the market cap of brookfield’s subsidaries. Too much rebel news.

Out of touch? He grew up in edmonton in a regular family but had the talent to go to harvard. Was also appointed as bank of canada governor by the messiah stephen harper of the conservatives

At least he's had a real job, and not spent his entire life in politics.

bobbinka 12-12-2024 08:47 PM

Do none of you work? How are you guys posting all fucking morning/afternoon on a Thursday.

whitev70r 12-12-2024 08:48 PM

^ :alonehappy:

CivicBlues 12-12-2024 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 9157834)
Do none of you work? How are you guys posting all fucking morning/afternoon on a Thursday.

Buncha Pierre Poilievres in here posting.

Badhobz 12-12-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 9157834)
Do none of you work? How are you guys posting all fucking morning/afternoon on a Thursday.

wtf is work ?

JDMDreams 12-12-2024 10:28 PM

Yea we're canindia, all we have to do is strike.

https://youtu.be/wD5ejnj2miw?si=rQG2zQslWjMFqUDA

Dbone 12-13-2024 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by noclue (Post 9157815)
We need mark carney for PM with his credentials but he got painted as a globalist elite and there’s too many dumb people in canada that believe it.

Carney is the man, but you're right. Rednecks don't understand that thinking globally means getting global experience. I think people on RS typically think more globally than most but I doubt most Canadians think beyond NA and wherever their family immigrated from.

BIC_BAWS 12-13-2024 08:01 AM

https://globalnews.ca/news/10915723/...cking-suspect/

So the suspect made it across the US BORDER looks like their border security needs work too. It's CBP officers involved in this.

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Hondaracer 12-13-2024 08:50 AM

By the way, trying to argue turd lowered the national debt and hang your hat on that is absolutely insane as, as of sept 2024, the national debt was doubled during the liberals reign of terror, and Turd had single handledly taken on more debt than all PM’s before him combined

https://financialpost.com/opinion/tr...bled-down-debt

https://i.imgur.com/hcNdnBl.jpeg

Again.. for all that debt, you’d think people could have clean water and FOOD :lol

Debt to GDP is also the highest it’s ever been in this countries history.

But heyyyyyy… the child care benefit!

mikemhg 12-13-2024 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9157795)
- Increased the child tax benefit program
- Revitalized CCG (Canadian Coast Guard) which was demolished by Harper's government, re-opened closed bases and funded an entire fleet of new ships... I know I was involved in buying some of them
- Poured money back into sciences and scientific/research departments of the fed gov which was cut to nothing by Harper
- Modified OAS and pensions for increased eligibility for seniors
- Made protected parks out of massive swaths of land across the country
- Funded women's shelter initiaties cross country
- I beleive they made their cabinet almost 50/50 for male/female representation
- Lowered the national debt TWO times

I mean, I could go on and on if you like, but I'm sure you'll just ignore it since they never do anything right in your mind. Tunnel vision.

Legalized weed too :lol

Honda, you're an outdoor guy from my understanding, the bolded alone should make anyone jump for joy in this country if you value public access to the outdoors.

I'll say it again, Texas for this is an absolute nightmare. This state sold its public land many moons ago to private parties, the result is little to no public access to nature, lack of public parks, and expensive access to the few that remain in this state.

This is fundamental conservative ideology that the Cons would love to roll out in Canada, privatize everything, sell everything crown to their crony buddies.

Meanwhile people like you will jump up and down welcoming the proverbial ass fucking.

mikemhg 12-13-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 9157834)
Do none of you work? How are you guys posting all fucking morning/afternoon on a Thursday.

We're a bunch of entitled white collar workers that WFH sitting in the top percentile complaining about the world on a hobby car forum :lol

The irony is real.

Traum 12-13-2024 09:00 AM

So the federal labour minister is slamming things down with the back-to-work hammer, but it doesn't feel like any of CP's problems are solved.

They are still uncompetitive becos their costs are still too high. No weekend deliveries. Staff are not happy bcos they are being ordered back to work. Union is not happy because they didn't score any wins.

Most important of all, CP has lost their most lucrative Christmas season, as well as their most supportive small business clients.

Everybody is losing except the private carriers. FailFish

JDMDreams 12-13-2024 09:02 AM

Don't forget to buy your Christmas trees tomorrow but no decorations and play your new PS5 while you drink your tax free alcohol. :lawl:

Hondaracer 12-13-2024 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9157901)
Legalized weed too :lol

Honda, you're an outdoor guy from my understanding, the bolded alone should make anyone jump for joy in this country if you value public access to the outdoors.

I'll say it again, Texas for this is an absolute nightmare. This state sold its public land many moons ago to private parties, the result is little to no public access to nature, lack of public parks, and expensive access to the few that remain in this state.

This is fundamental conservative ideology that the Cons would love to roll out in Canada, privatize everything, sell everything crown to their crony buddies.

Meanwhile people like you will jump and and down welcoming the proverbial ass fucking.

I can appreciate the wildlife and national park aspects, albeit I think there is discussion to be had as to how, in typical fashion, bad their systems are in terms of access, reservations, etc. but at the same time, we’re the second largest country on the planet with 99% of the population living in what, 5% of the landmass?

It’s not like you’re gonna see the Telus hot springs 6 hours east of Prince George.

I’ve been an active member of the BC wildlife federation for 3 decades and I’d think while they commend the efforts to protect habitat and forests, I don’t think they are overly thrilled with much of the legislation that has come down their way either.

You’re never gonna please everyone, but let’s face it, even the most staunch liberal supporter thinks Turd has done a shit job and should go.

underscore 12-13-2024 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9157901)
I'll say it again, Texas for this is an absolute nightmare. This state sold its public land many moons ago to private parties, the result is little to no public access to nature, lack of public parks, and expensive access to the few that remain in this state.

This is fundamental conservative ideology that the Cons would love to roll out in Canada, privatize everything, sell everything crown to their crony buddies.

Meanwhile people like you will jump and and down welcoming the proverbial ass fucking.

For a taster closer to home just look at how much of southern Vancouver Island was sold off and now is behind gates.

AstulzerRZD 12-13-2024 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9157899)
By the way, trying to argue turd lowered the national debt and hang your hat on that is absolutely insane as, as of sept 2024, the national debt was doubled during the liberals reign of terror, and Turd had single handledly taken on more debt than all PMÂ’s before him combined

We also went through a giant pandemic; US public debt also increased like 40% since 2020.

I don't like the man but can't rly entirely blame Trudeau for pandemic spending, resource extraction and infrastructure failures we both agree on.

Would be a miracle if some genius managed to sell Canadians on upzoning, the loss of single family home and property investment 'dream', transit/high speed rail, and loss of union jobs at ports for automation.

Hondaracer 12-13-2024 09:31 AM

lol I love that fucking Les Amis, a fucking CHEESE shop needs TWO security guards now

Love this

unit 12-13-2024 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9157907)
We also went through a giant pandemic; US public debt also increased like 40% since 2020.

I don't like the man but can't rly entirely blame Trudeau for pandemic spending, resource extraction and infrastructure failures we both agree on.

Would be a miracle if some genius managed to sell Canadians on upzoning, the loss of single family home and property investment 'dream', transit/high speed rail, and loss of union jobs at ports for automation.

honestly yeah, the effects of the pandemic on the inflation we are experiencing cannot be understated.

westopher 12-13-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9157912)
honestly yeah, the effects of the pandemic on the inflation we are experiencing cannot be understated.

But they most certainly be ignored when someone is trying to prove a point.

Hondaracer 12-13-2024 09:45 AM

lol look at comparable countries

Poland, Spain, Sweden, etc etc.

Countries with more people have a fraction of our debt. Crazy guess they didn’t go through Covid?

Countries with better access to healthcare and lower cost of living, wild, I guess they know something we don’t hehe

The states debt is almost irrelevant because their GDP is so high, their GDP is almost 100 times ours. They could claw their way out of almost any debt eventually.

Our GDP is -nothing- we have nothing to provide to pay down debt.

Traum 12-13-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9157912)
honestly yeah, the effects of the pandemic on the inflation we are experiencing cannot be understated.

Practically all incumbent govs around the world are getting blamed for the inflation though, and are punished at the polls as a result. In the case for a lot of 1st world countries, I'd say the blame is not entirely deserving.

AstulzerRZD 12-13-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9157914)
lol look at comparable countries

Poland, Spain, Sweden, etc etc.

Countries with more people have a fraction of our debt. Crazy guess they didn’t go through Covid?

Countries with better access to healthcare and lower cost of living, wild, I guess they know something we don’t hehe

Our GDP is -nothing- we have nothing to provide to pay down debt.

Yeah way cheaper to provide services to a country with like 5-20x population density and non-bozo voter base huh?
Sweden's pension funds even let the fed gov withdraw from them to pay down debt.

Poland has the advantage of cheap labour that other EU countries take invest in to take advantage of.
Sweden and Spain's economy are kinda fucked - 2k income a month in Spain is considered pretty rich.

AstulzerRZD 12-13-2024 10:27 AM

Jesus, Swedish tax rates:
Sales Tax: 24%
Marginal tax rate: 59% tax at 50k
Corporate tax: 21% vs 16% in Canada

If change our tax to match Sweden we go from 90B deficit to 200B surplus:
Sales: +50B revenue
Income: +210B
Corp: +23B

Their economy is cooked:
Unemployment: 25% higher relative (8%)
REtail Sales: down 8% YoY
Stock Exchange: 7% YTD growth (vs 30% in Canada)

They don't rly spend more than us
Health: Same % of budget, 1.5k more per capita
Defense: Same % of budget
Education: 13% is 2% higher than Canada, double per capita - 4k instead of 2.3k

We would have 0 debt in 7.5 years if we taxed like Sweden lol

68style 12-13-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9157899)
By the way, trying to argue turd lowered the national debt and hang your hat on that is absolutely insane as, as of sept 2024, the national debt was doubled during the liberals reign of terror, and Turd had single handledly taken on more debt than all PM’s before him combined

https://financialpost.com/opinion/tr...bled-down-debt

https://i.imgur.com/hcNdnBl.jpeg

Again.. for all that debt, you’d think people could have clean water and FOOD :lol

Debt to GDP is also the highest it’s ever been in this countries history.

But heyyyyyy… the child care benefit!

Show me a country that didn’t massively increase its debt during COVID and took care of its citizens my guy. Hanging your argumental hat on that is just pure ignorance.


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