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hud 91gt 10-05-2019 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8961982)
Serious question. Why aren’t there more agnostics and atheists in the running? Religion has no place in politics, and regardless of which religion, candidates can’t seem to keep their own out of it, not always through their own fault I will admit though.
Keep your interpretation of your favourite novel out of government, because what matters is how the people, environment, and economy, on earth, at this current time are affected.
I do agree with you, and as the younger generation sways away from religion politics will probably sway with it. But as that banned editorial in the newspaper which was posted weeks ago (which was touted as highly racist). Our countries morals and policies do stem from a Christian base. Any other opinion will clash with the majority view. The guys article was extreme but he made some pretty valid points.

Edit: if I read the posts following yours I could have ignored this post
Completely. Lol

!LittleDragon 10-05-2019 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8961963)
Tenderloin is flavourless and wasteful, much like the centre right.
That just means you have more choices on how to flavour it to your liking. The rib has too much fat that needs to be trimmed... lol

underscore 10-05-2019 01:07 PM
Can we stay on topic? This topic of tenderloins and ribs is making me hungry.

DragonChi 10-05-2019 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8961992)
It may have been found for that reason, but settlements were established to spread Catholicism by the French, and Protestantism by the British.
You have to understand at that time religion was the highest understanding for life itself. It was the reason for everything known to man.
Here ya go.

https://archive.org/details/CanadaAP...1540To1670.mkv

Episode 2 and 3. It happened that the explorers and settlers were Catholics and Protestants. The reason for colonisation/settlement was not to spread religion.

I agree that back in the day, 1600s to 1800s, religion had much more impact in the daily lives, since it was what most people were raised on. Furthermore, there was no evidence to disprove sarcred texts.

edit: damn, ran across the 2015 election thread on RS. 34 pages in 3 months. This thread, 35 pages in one year. Where the hell did everyone go?
https://www.revscene.net/forums/7046...ns-2015-a.html

Also, a mod should setup a poll or new thread!

welfare 10-05-2019 08:47 PM
The first permanent settlement in Canada (now Quebec) was formed by the jesuits missionaries in early 1600's. Brought by Samuel de Champlain under order of the kingdom of France to convert the pagan aboriginals.

Jesuits were also sent to South and central Americas to convert the millions of aboriginals who inhabited the continent.
This was done to counter the growing number of protestant followers, during the period leading to the thirty years war (1618-1648 i believe) which involved all countries of Europe between these two factions of Christianity. Millions dead. Yada yada yada.

No doubt material gain was a big factor in the establishment of colonies. But it can't be overstated the initial goal of the French to grow the Catholic church during the period of that holy war.

Ps. I haven't watched those videos yet tho. They are loooong dude. But I'm gonna watch them tonight as i do love good Canadian history docs. And i do appreciate you sharing

DragonChi 10-06-2019 08:01 AM
Offtopic, more about Canadian history.
Spoiler!

tiger_handheld 10-06-2019 12:03 PM
anyone know if the french debate will be air'ed in english on TV? if so which channel?

welfare 10-06-2019 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8962075)
Offtopic, more about Canadian history.
Spoiler!
Yea they seem a tad dry. I started watching last night, buuuut fell asleep halfway through the first one. I did catch that they stated John Guy as creating the first permanent settlement in Canada in 1610, but from what I found that is incorrect, as it was Champlain who did so in 1605 and then again in 1608 in the st Lawrence/Quebec.

I'll watch more of it tonight, maybe not so late haha.
Some info:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesu..._North_America

I found this series a few years back. It's got that good old Canadian feel to it. Like you're back in high school social studies. they're only about half hour too. Check it out. I think you'll like them.
Here's an episode detailing the dynamics of what i was talking about

whitev70r 10-06-2019 02:43 PM
If Scheer wants to win this, he has to pump Jagmeet Singh's tires, split the left vote because Cons is really only right (politically speaking) alternative. There are enough people who are sick and tired of Trudeau's privileged white arse but will never vote for Scheer.

$_$ 10-07-2019 08:52 AM
https://www.facebook.com/RichmondCha...5072779574206/

Don't think I saw this posted so I'll leave this here. Liberal/NDP candidate for Richmond Centre didn't even bother to show up. NDP candidate for Richmond East was too young and seemed a bit ill prepared. Joe Peschisolido and Alice Wong both felt like career politicians and Joe felt a lit greasy imo.

Manic! 10-07-2019 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8962088)
If Scheer wants to win this, he has to pump Jagmeet Singh's tires, split the left vote because Cons is really only right (politically speaking) alternative. There are enough people who are sick and tired of Trudeau's privileged white arse but will never vote for Scheer.
I wouldn't be surprised if some on the left are trying to get cons to vote for Maxime Bernier.


Is scheer still considered old stock?

I also wonder who has been here longer Jagmeets dad or scheers?

whitev70r 10-07-2019 10:45 AM
JT was getting very giddy when Bernier started the PPC, they thought it would split the right vote but so far, PPC is kinda irrelevant.

Scheer is considered as exciting and has as much charisma as a piece of cardboard. But then again, maybe that's what you want in a PM instead of a party loving, over the top costume, hands roaming. selfie/IG star.

Manic! 10-07-2019 10:59 AM
https://vancouversun.com/news/politi...c-green-leader

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Andrew Weaver, the Nobel-prize winning climate scientist turned power broker for the B.C. NDP government, is stepping down as leader of the B.C. Green Party.

JDął 10-07-2019 02:57 PM
https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/10...m-from-office/

https://igeddit.ca/img/BOOM.jpg

Bouncing Bettys 10-07-2019 03:59 PM
Anyone else watching/listening to the debates on right now?

Jmac 10-07-2019 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8962214)
Anyone else watching/listening to the debates on right now?
Have it on in the background. It’s super annoying to listen to.

Have Scheer and Trudeau actually answered a question? Seems like they’re just regurgitating their pre-defined talking points on every topic.

Manic! 10-07-2019 04:46 PM
https://www.canadalandshow.com/the-b...-not-reliable/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-buffalo-chronicle/

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Analysis / Bias

In review, The Buffalo Chronicle is an online newspaper that focuses on local news in the Buffalo area. They also report news from other locations in New York as well as Washington D.C. Headlines of articles often contain loaded language that favor the Right such as this: Obama’s pathetic ‘Blame Fox’ excuse. This article is essentially a short summary of a New York Post article. Further, articles written by staff are right biased and pro-Trump. Local news also features strong right wing bias in attacking local Democrats such as this: That time Poloncarz appointed ‘patronage hack’ to supervise CPS, following brazen fraud scheme. In general, The Buffalo Chronicle reports favorably on the right and negatively on the left.

The Buffalo Chronicle has also been cited for publishing false information about Canada.

Overall, we rate The Buffalo Chronicle Questionable based on far right wing bias and a complete lack of transparency. (D. Van Zandt 5/2/2019)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Paladino

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Carl Pasquale Paladino[2] (born August 24, 1946) is an American businessman and political activist. Paladino is the chairman of Ellicott Development Co., a real estate development company he founded in 1973.[3]

Paladino ran for Governor of New York in the 2010 election. He upset Rick Lazio in the Republican primary, but was defeated by Democrat Andrew Cuomo in a landslide (63%–33%) in the general election. Paladino's candidacy was supported by the Tea Party movement[4] and by residents of his native Western New York.

Paladino was elected to the South Buffalo seat on the Buffalo School Board in 2013, and was re-elected in 2016. In December 2016, the Board condemned as racist remarks Paladino had made about President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama and demanded that he resign.[5] On August 17, 2017, following a public hearing, the New York State Education Department removed Paladino from his Board seat for publicly disclosing confidential information obtained in executive session.[6]
This is fake news.

What facebook group did you get this from?

whitev70r 10-07-2019 05:09 PM
Any legs to this story?

Edit: except of course by typical response by Manic!

wreck 10-07-2019 05:10 PM
May killed it.

Trudeau was Trudeau.

Scheer shit the bed - he was thrown nothing but softballs and instead of sending them deep he focused on attacking Trudeau. What a missed opportunity.

Singh did well - he's the new cooler, hip Trudeau

Max was Madmax - he's aware May will garner enough seats to basically render PR and nothing getting done, and he's pissed about it.

Bloc was best dressed.


typical quick debate with no real explanation of platforms.

Manic! 10-07-2019 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8962222)
Any legs to this story?
Nope 100% fake news. The alt right have been trying to push it for a while now.

Bouncing Bettys 10-07-2019 05:40 PM
May killed it? After her patronizing indigenous land acknowledgement to open her debate? Killed her chances more like it.

wreck 10-07-2019 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8962230)
May killed it? After her patronizing indigenous land acknowledgement to open her debate? Killed her chances more like it.
you're getting that specific?

this was a general debate for the casuals. she killed it.

Manic! 10-07-2019 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8962230)
May killed it? After her patronizing indigenous land acknowledgement to open her debate? Killed her chances more like it.
That's pretty standard for politicians on the island. They always pay respect to the first Nations land they are on before they start.

whitev70r 10-07-2019 06:22 PM
I think Jagmeet's stock rose, he presented himself as the most sincere and personal. He handled himself well. He had the best one line zingers. "You don't have to choose between Mr. Delay or Mr. Deny ... there is a better choice".

To be expected, Trudeau was the punching bag all night. Scheer's opening volley was funny ... blackface, mask of feminism, mask of indigenous, mask of environmentalist.

Trudeau ... blah blah blah ... Doug Ford ... blah blah blah ... Doug Ford

Format was terrible with 5 moderators. If they were all men, people would scream bloody hell. We couldn't find one competent male moderator? As a whole, moderators were terrible, especially the 3rd one from the Toronto Star.

PeanutButter 10-07-2019 08:15 PM
These debates are so dumb. They don't have any substance, it's just a bunch of children yelling at each other.

I really wish there was a better forum to help Canadians decide on who to vote for. These things are just silly.


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