Canadian politics thread

[Hondaracer]

“The budget will balance itself”

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by Manic!

So basically he has no principles and will say anything to get elected.

Oh, all the things turd has said to get elected. Where do I begin?

Do you see how all the politicians are the same?

Just because you agree/disagree to something they said doesn’t make it any different. They’ve got one principle and that is to get votes. Whatever you guys say here on pp, you change pp to turd and the sentence would still make sense.

[Harvey Specter]

I'm on the PP bandwagon, but I'm starting to get nervous about him. For the past couple of years, he's ranted about JT which has connected with voters, but now that JT isn't the bogeyman, I'm struggling to understand how he plans to move Canada forward.

He's still too focused on the Liberal leadership race, like who cares? And the carbon tax? Can we talk about anything else? What's the plan to protect Canadian jobs? Secure our borders? How will we respond if Trump unleashes a tariff apocalypse? Do you even have a plan?

[snowball]

Probably won't hear much from him until... after the election.

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter

I'm on the PP bandwagon, but I'm starting to get nervous about him. For the past couple of years, he's ranted about JT which has connected with voters, but now that JT isn't the bogeyman, I'm struggling to understand how he plans to move Canada forward.

He's still too focused on the Liberal leadership race, like who cares? And the carbon tax? Can we talk about anything else? What's the plan to protect Canadian jobs? Secure our borders? How will we respond if Trump unleashes a tariff apocalypse? Do you even have a plan?

His entire platform has been that he's not Trudeau. He hasn't laid out any sort of platform beyond that. He won't answer questions from the media. There has only been a what, never a how out of his mouth. The only what is cutting out the carbon tax and maybe indirectly saying he'd cut immigration. The rest has just been nonsensical buzzwords like "fighting wokism."
Like gay marriage or abortion or trans people or whatever marginalized groups exist. Making their lives worse doesn't make anyones better.
I'm gonna lose my fucking mind if they start talking about Jesus and shit next. It's following the path of the US election.
Useless leader that no one likes leaves way too late, someone comes in with no time to catch voters attention, asshole scapegoats a bunch of stuff that has no effect on peoples lives, says the same dumb shit over and over again so people remember it.
Russian disinformation worked. We are retarded. We are all fighting over the most useless shit and a divided nation because of it. All people talk about is stuff that should just not even be talked about. Virtue signalling from one side, pointless hate from another. We're fucked.
The thing is the virtue signalling has put a target on these groups for the dumbest of voters to put blame on, and it's spiralling.

[Hondaracer]

As I said before, the liberals only feigned interest in those social issues. No tangible change ever took place. You can place as much blame of the current division in this country on Turd and the gang as you can on these “right wing” people who opposed his endless bullshit.

He pushed too hard for too long and this is the result. Economically you can say what you will that Harper and previous governments fucked up our resources and housing etc.

Social issues, Trudeau and the liberals are squarely to blame for where we are today. Guy went full retard

[westopher]

I partially agree. He may have started it, but you also have to be 10x the retard to be like, now I'm mad at trans people cause "TuRdEuS cAnAdA is TAMpoN iN mANs room"
Doing meaningless work to sort of appease a marginalized community is not even a billionth as disgusting as blaming that group for your problems cause it didn't help you.

[Hondaracer]

I don’t care about tampons in men’s bathrooms but I guarantee you for a large portion of people who actually get out and vote, stuff like that was their “enough is enough” moment.

It was poorly calculated move, after poorly calculated move.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

I don’t care about tampons in men’s bathrooms but I guarantee you for a large portion of people who actually get out and vote, stuff like that was their “enough is enough” moment.

It was poorly calculated move, after poorly calculated move.

I thought the moment was letting trannies in women's washrooms so that they could rape women freely wasn't it? /s

[Fafine]

Originally Posted by supafamous

I thought the moment was letting trannies in women's washrooms so that they could rape women freely wasn't it? /s

maybe not as far as rape, but it seems like there are sickos that claim to be trans to harm children

"The City of Nanaimo, in a statement, said there have been two recent reports “regarding the activities of [a] potential transgender individual in the women’s change room,” and that NAC staff have been in contact with police multiple times.

Reserve Const. Gary O’Brien, Nanaimo RCMP spokesperson, said it appeared the same person may have been involved in both incidents. He said there is no surveillance footage and no determination of any charges right now, but said the complaints are being actively investigated."


https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/news...o-pool-1112601

[Traum]

Like it or not, "there isn't a snowball's chance in hell" that PeePee would lose the election. Coincidentally, PeePee is also roughly going to be the PM for the full duration of Trump's presidency as well.

So we're gonna have the next 4 years to see how PeePee can lead his common sense gov to:

- axe the tax
- build the homes
- fix the budget
- stop the crime

while defending Canada against the big, bad US.

And with Trump's tariffs pretty much a certainty, I'd really like to see how PeePee is going lead us through these next 4 years of insanity...

[AstulzerRZD]

As an outsider looking in, the bar for meaningful improvement is so low for PP.
Bro just needs to…

- extract and process more resource LNG/wood/Ev minerals
- grow advanced manufacturing
- keep software engineering in Canada

And yet it was the incompetent/corrupt AF liberal gov with a finance minister on her way out that delivered:

- LNG terminals online this year, battery resources now leverage for negotiating with trump
- EV plants funded in Ontario growing supply chain
- SRED credits and business incentive
- High speed rail

Trudeau blows and he deserves to be voted out but
PP’s weak af gov is going to finalize Canada decline into 2nd/3rd world country.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by supafamous

I thought the moment was letting trannies in women's washrooms so that they could rape women freely wasn't it? /s

Go ahead and let your daughter be in a public bathroom with a 6’2 woman with a beard lol..

Libs spent so much time on irrelevant bullshit they put a target on their back for every “legitimate” social issue.

Most of these groups are worse off now than they were before.

[AstulzerRZD]

What is PP going to do to grow Canada economy
I don’t care about niche social issues

[MarkyMark]

Yes people are voting for PP cause they hate trans people, no other possible reason lol

[unit]

Originally Posted by Traum

Like it or not, "there isn't a snowball's chance in hell" that PeePee would lose the election. Coincidentally, PeePee is also roughly going to be the PM for the full duration of Trump's presidency as well.

So we're gonna have the next 4 years to see how PeePee can lead his common sense gov to:

- axe the tax
- build the homes
- fix the budget
- stop the crime

while defending Canada against the big, bad US.

And with Trump's tariffs pretty much a certainty, I'd really like to see how PeePee is going lead us through these next 4 years of insanity...

the only thing he can do out of those 4 is axe the tax (while creating a revenue deficit he can't fill). he can only pretend he has control over the other 3 for now and once he's in power he will go silent on all 3.

[68style]

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter

I'm on the PP bandwagon, but I'm starting to get nervous about him. For the past couple of years, he's ranted about JT which has connected with voters, but now that JT isn't the bogeyman, I'm struggling to understand how he plans to move Canada forward.

He's still too focused on the Liberal leadership race, like who cares? And the carbon tax? Can we talk about anything else? What's the plan to protect Canadian jobs? Secure our borders? How will we respond if Trump unleashes a tariff apocalypse? Do you even have a plan?

No direct offense intended, but kinda being another "The economy is in the shitter PP is the answer Canada is stuck" guy while waiting for your custom Lamborghini to get built and delivered.

All the guys I hear bitching the most and the loudest about the economy and wanting PP in have brand new exotic cars or Cybertrucks. One guy who posts about his PP support daily I know is, no surprise, also a realtor who took delivery of a GT3RS and a GTS this past year while boohoo'ing into his cereal about the state of Canada every morning.

It's fuckin mental.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by westopher

His entire platform has been that he's not Trudeau. He hasn't laid out any sort of platform beyond that. He won't answer questions from the media. There has only been a what, never a how out of his mouth. The only what is cutting out the carbon tax and maybe indirectly saying he'd cut immigration. The rest has just been nonsensical buzzwords like "fighting wokism."
Like gay marriage or abortion or trans people or whatever marginalized groups exist. Making their lives worse doesn't make anyones better.
I'm gonna lose my fucking mind if they start talking about Jesus and shit next. It's following the path of the US election.
Useless leader that no one likes leaves way too late, someone comes in with no time to catch voters attention, asshole scapegoats a bunch of stuff that has no effect on peoples lives, says the same dumb shit over and over again so people remember it.
Russian disinformation worked. We are retarded. We are all fighting over the most useless shit and a divided nation because of it. All people talk about is stuff that should just not even be talked about. Virtue signalling from one side, pointless hate from another. We're fucked.
The thing is the virtue signalling has put a target on these groups for the dumbest of voters to put blame on, and it's spiralling.

I agree 100 percent with what you say. PP boy is Slogan Boy.

Keep saying in his lame TV ads "Let's bring it Home!"

I'm thinking "Well, what the fuck is PP and his Cons gonna bring home to Canada???"

Here is a wish list that I hope that the Conservatives 'bring Home to Canada"

Santa Claus might do a better job in fulfilling his Christmas wish list for kids compared to PP.

My wish list from PP and the Cons:


Bail reform for the Criminal Justice system.

A carrot and stick strategy in response to Trump's tariffs on Canadian exports.
What I mean by a carrot and stick approach is tariffs on specific products that Americans, especially Americans living in Republican majority states export to Canada. That is the stick part of the strategy. How about stopping exports of electricity to the U.S too?

The carrot part of the trade strategy would removal of tariffs on American exports IF Trump removes tariffs on certain Canadian goods first.

Keep all options open and on the table in terms of the tariffs.

-will be interesting to see how the Libs and foreign minister Melanie Joly respond to Cheeto's tariffs on our goods.

A national housing strategy to combat homelessness. Enough of studies. There needs to be a concrete plan, and funding to build homes for Canadians in all provinces. -also needs to be a way to cut bureaucratic red tape to ensure that homes are built FASTER across all provinces. -needs to be better coordination between the federal government and stakeholders such as the premiers, civic leaders, and construction industry leaders.

Protection of Canada's rare earth/critical minerals from foreign ownership.
If the Americans want our cobalt, lithium, and other rare earth minerals for their tech industries, raise the prices big time for those types of minerals. Federal government blockade on foreign ownership of Canadian mining companies for lithium, cobalt, and other rare earth minerals.

Trump being the perv, dirty old man, that he is might respond positively to Melanie Joly. A co worker mentioned to me yesterday that Joly should dress sexier in order to distract Trump during the free trade agreement renegotiations hhaaha.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by 68style

No direct offense intended, but kinda being another "The economy is in the shitter PP is the answer Canada is stuck" guy while waiting for your custom Lamborghini to get built and delivered.

All the guys I hear bitching the most and the loudest about the economy and wanting PP in have brand new exotic cars or Cybertrucks. One guy who posts about his PP support daily I know is, no surprise, also a realtor who took delivery of a GT3RS and a GTS this past year while boohoo'ing into his cereal about the state of Canada every morning.

It's fuckin mental.

Well obviously successful people have more to lose when the economy is in the shitter. I’d rather listen to a business owner complain about policy and economics than a 40 year old who lives with their parents. Those people are ACTUALLY effected by federally policy, not the bum labourer with no prospects in life.

Turd can’t even give free money out without it being a total clusterfuck. All these reports coming out now about the “tax holiday” costing businesss more than they were able to generate lol.. could have seen that a fucking mile away without a degree in economics.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

I agree 100 percent with what you say. PP boy is Slogan Boy.

Keep saying in his lame TV ads "Let's bring it Home!"

I'm thinking "Well, what the fuck is PP and his Cons gonna bring home to Canada???"

Here is a wish list that I hope that the Conservatives 'bring Home to Canada"

Santa Claus might do a better job in fulfilling his Christmas wish list for kids compared to PP.

My wish list from PP and the Cons:


Bail reform for the Criminal Justice system.

A carrot and stick strategy in response to Trump's tariffs on Canadian exports.
What I mean by a carrot and stick approach is tariffs on specific products that Americans, especially Americans living in Republican majority states export to Canada. That is the stick part of the strategy. How about stopping exports of electricity to the U.S too?

The carrot part of the trade strategy would removal of tariffs on American exports IF Trump removes tariffs on certain Canadian goods first.

Keep all options open and on the table in terms of the tariffs.

-will be interesting to see how the Libs and foreign minister Melanie Joly respond to Cheeto's tariffs on our goods.

A national housing strategy to combat homelessness. Enough of studies. There needs to be a concrete plan, and funding to build homes for Canadians in all provinces. -also needs to be a way to cut bureaucratic red tape to ensure that homes are built FASTER across all provinces. -needs to be better coordination between the federal government and stakeholders such as the premiers, civic leaders, and construction industry leaders.

Protection of Canada's rare earth/critical minerals from foreign ownership.
If the Americans want our cobalt, lithium, and other rare earth minerals for their tech industries, raise the prices big time for those types of minerals. Federal government blockade on foreign ownership of Canadian mining companies for lithium, cobalt, and other rare earth minerals.

Trump being the perv, dirty old man, that he is might respond positively to Melanie Joly. A co worker mentioned to me yesterday that Joly should dress sexier in order to distract Trump during the free trade agreement renegotiations hhaaha.

Fix ONE of those things, and you’ve done more than Turd for the general populous.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

A national housing strategy to combat homelessness. Enough of studies. There needs to be a concrete plan, and funding to build homes for Canadians in all provinces.

Originally Posted by pastarocket

Protection of Canada's rare earth/critical minerals from foreign ownership.
If the Americans want our cobalt, lithium, and other rare earth minerals for their tech industries, raise the prices big time for those types of minerals. Federal government blockade on foreign ownership of Canadian mining companies for lithium, cobalt, and other rare earth minerals.

The Cons would never do either of those. They'll do the opposite.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

What is PP going to do to grow Canada economy
I don’t care about niche social issues

I think it is safe to assume that PeePee will relax environmental / emissions rules to allow an expansion of the O&G sector, mostly in Alberta. He has mentioned something along those lines at a high level in some of his talks before, and Danielle Smith will gladly move things along in unison at the provincial level too.

But to what extent PeePee will go is more difficult to say. He mentioned a grandeur plan of building new refining capacity here in Canada, and that just sounds completely unfeasible to me. The timeline to get new refineries built is far too long, and the purely financial cost-benefit analysis would not be able to justify pushing through those plans. (And we haven't even delved into the environmental and climate change impacts yet.) So all that means is -- we're gonna pump out even more O&G products, with the majority of those being sold to the US, and that will only make our trade deficit with the US even worse.

(But the trade deficit is merely an excuse for Trump to slap us with tariffs. At the end of the day, Trump just wants to weaponize something to coerce the other party into "negotiating" a deal where Trump will win. If PeePee & Smith can somehow convince Trump that sending more O&G products down to the States will bring further benefits to the US, Trump can easily carve out an exemption on the tariffs in some shape or form.)

Other than removing the carbon tax, I'd also expect PeePee to reduce some sort of corporate / investment tax to claim the move will stimulate business activity. I don't have a good eye for economy-related stuff, so I can't make any educated guesses on how that will affect the economy. But I'd expect that kind of tax reduction policy to benefit the 1% more than the regular common folks.

I agree with pastarocket that we desperately need bail reform. And on top of that, I hope the Cons will take measures to properly fund and staff our courts, both at the federal and provincial levels. From what I understand, part of our current problems with the judicial system is, we just don't have enough judges and court staff to process all the cases. The federal gov has a critical role to play here because at least at the federal level, the (federal) Justice Minister is the gatekeeper on approving federal court judges. We do not have a shortage of applicants for that role, but for whatever reasons beyond my understanding, the Liberals Justice Minister just hasn't been treating that approval process as a priority.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by 68style

No direct offense intended, but kinda being another "The economy is in the shitter PP is the answer Canada is stuck" guy while waiting for your custom Lamborghini to get built and delivered.

All the guys I hear bitching the most and the loudest about the economy and wanting PP in have brand new exotic cars or Cybertrucks. One guy who posts about his PP support daily I know is, no surprise, also a realtor who took delivery of a GT3RS and a GTS this past year while boohoo'ing into his cereal about the state of Canada every morning.

It's fuckin mental.

You don't get it. Personally, I'm not supporting PP because he is offering a clearly better solution to problems such as economy, social issues... etc.

I'm supporting PP because Trudeau's policies are not working and he's gotta go. TBH, I think many of these ppl you are referring won't give a flying fuck if Trudeau really stays. Much of their financial situation wouldn't drastically change should things continue the way it is or PP comes to power. We will still drive our luxury cars, fuck our bitches and buy our vacation homes. But these people do have sympathy too, as hard as it is for you to believe, many of them DO want the society to be better off. It benefits us all. When the whole country is doing good, there is less crime, less chaos and heck, even the waitress at the restaurant would put on a better smile for me.

Instead, we have policies after policies that address superficial problems. Social issue such as LGBTQ or WOKE is so fucked up. We are making decision plans for 100% of population for what? last time I checked, a bit over a million Canadians identify as LGBTQ... that's not even 5% of the population... but nop... their priority come first in the sake of "inclusion". This is not to say that we should exclude them completely. Just make the thing somewhat normal for them by making small changes, like the disability parking spots and accessibility to public places we require by law. We are not changing everything for the small group of people who need help, instead, we make it so that they don't get left out. The whole bathroom issue... the solution is so simple, just make a requirement for certain places like school to provide accessibility going forward. Build an extra bathroom for those who identify as LGBTQ and put tampons, or whatever in it.

Then issues like Ukraine... why are we sending so much money (hence creating inflation) when we can't even find funding for our own people? You want to support Ukraine? Fine, send in the troops and try to end this mess. Why are we saying that we support Ukraine and condemn Russia when we are doing nothing about it? If the NATO had any balls and just went in full military support at the beginning of the war, this whole mess would have long ended. However mighty Russia want to paint itself to be, it's no match against the entire NATO. Instead? Everyone is doing superficial things.

And for me to believe that by keeping turd or Liberal in power and that somehow things are going to change? Not a chance.

Just hit them where it hurts. They care nothing other than the votes. Thus, I'm going to give my vote to another party. Do I fully agree with what Conservatives want to do? Nah, I'm not that redneck. But whatever it takes to get Libs out. That's the only way if we want to improve. We cannot let politicians to stay if they/their party are not doing a good job for the society.

[Hondaracer]

It’s utterly insane that people are so hung up frivolous social issues when we have

- highest ever levels of child poverty
- highest ever use of food banks
- highest wait times for healthcare EVER
- highest rents EVER
- highest housing costs EVER

Like… even if you’re not the GT3 driving playboy, you’re FUCKED! lol you’re the worst off you’ve been lol

But pp steal dem minerals! It’s fucking insane like the people at the bottom who think social issues are the biggest concern in a conservative government are the worst off they’ve ever been.

As I said before, people would rather live in a fucking box on the sidewalk than admit that hurt feelings are a low priority.

It doesn’t matter what PP does, Trudeau fucked everyone with his policies. Immigration being square and Center.

I got banned from the Canada sub Reddit for suggesting Indian TFW dragging their families to Canada puts extreme stress on an already failing healthcare system as that was viewed as “racist”

Now the liberals pull all family immigration, damn… guess it’s not racism when it’s Turd and co backtracking on horrible policy that was a HUGE mistake and a detriment to all of us.

There were so many failures of this current govt. it’s incomprehensible to defend them. The worst PM in the history of this country with one of the worst tenures, and people worried about social issues that may or may not be affected? JFC…

[unit]

some of those social issues cost nothing though? why cant those be done without arguing about the economy at the same time?