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Great68 02-05-2025 11:07 AM

I don't think it's the deterrant that you think it will be.

In 1961 Canada had penalties of up to life sentances on Cannabis trafficking, and we all know how that went...........

I mean, shit how many other countries have the death penalty for drug trafficking yet it still happens.

Hondaracer 02-05-2025 11:11 AM

Well they aren’t gonna spend time chasing down people with a dime bag

Enable some legislation with actual teeth and start handing out these mandatory life terms and I guarantee you people will be hesitant.

Trickle down sentences based on varrying amounts.

Great68 02-05-2025 11:32 AM

Lol, a dime bag of fent (1gram) would literally be 25 life sentences' worth. According to PP

Hondaracer 02-05-2025 11:35 AM

I meant weed.

I agree with it, what’s there to oppose?

EvoFire 02-05-2025 12:03 PM

I finally saw an ad from PP and the cons yesterday outlining some concrete measures to help with home affordability.

Sell Federal land to build on
Eliminate tax on building materials
Eliminate permit costs

But..... I'm completely ignorant, does the fed actually own any land that's valuable for residential? The feeling I get is they are either usually parkland or boonies, and not actually in cities.

Eliminate tax on building materials I can see happening, and if the tariffs actually happen, I can see being useful for domestic businesses. A good solution that can potentially help with two problems at a very high level.

Eliminate permit costs.... That's a municipal thing though? They would to skip two levels of gov't?

supafamous 02-05-2025 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9164690)
I finally saw an ad from PP and the cons yesterday outlining some concrete measures to help with home affordability.

Sell Federal land to build on
Eliminate tax on building materials
Eliminate permit costs

But..... I'm completely ignorant, does the fed actually own any land that's valuable for residential? The feeling I get is they are either usually parkland or boonies, and not actually in cities.

Eliminate tax on building materials I can see happening, and if the tariffs actually happen, I can see being useful for domestic businesses. A good solution that can potentially help with two problems at a very high level.

Eliminate permit costs.... That's a municipal thing though? They would to skip two levels of gov't?

The first one is already being done: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-serv...-builders.html

I think a blanket "sell federal land for housing" policy is silly - I'm sure there are properties that aren't needed anymore but the gov't will never not need valuable real estate for their offices and staff.

#3 is a purely municipal thing and it's stupid b/c it's not the permit costs that are expensive it's the development fees that are expensive. Here's Burnaby's rates:

https://storeys.com/media-library/th...800&quality=90

Until cities actually charge realistic rates for property tax (they are WAY too low) we won't make a real dent in building more housing.

Hondaracer 02-05-2025 12:21 PM

The only way I could ever see it happening is the feds have some sort of mandate backed by funding to lower development fees city by city. Much like the provincial govt. has handed out mandates for housing targets

Anything that involves increasing property taxes isn’t likely to get passed as people will lose their shit. And ultimately I don’t really blame them because I have zero confidence whether it’s PP or the liberal leader that they will ultimately enact meaningful change as a result of a forced tax increase.

Dbone 02-05-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9164680)
So you’re opposed to locking up people with large quantities of fentanyl?

Is that legal today? No. So let's not pretend I made the statement you're suggesting, or that PP had some bright idea. Come on bud.

I'm in the camp that we make it all legal, and take the billions we waste trying to combat drugs and spend it on social housing and rehab/detox/take home OAT.

On the other hand, we could just keep up a wall of moral superiority as we watch thousands die and tens of thousands suffer. I guess that's cool too.

Hondaracer 02-05-2025 01:07 PM

Oh yea, cause decrim wasn’t a total fucking disaster, let’s supercharge it.

That ship has sailed. Enabling hopeless people has no end game any longer, we are way passed that.

This is no difference than rampant, repeat, crime. We have no answer, we are terrible at addressing it, and as a result, the regular person suffers.

The drug issue is exactly the same, we are totally incompetent at dealing with root causes and providing support and recovery. So stuff like this, severely punishing the distribution is the only thing your typical, law abiding, person can hope for because thinking we’ll ever make tangible change in addiction and mental health feels like a pipe dream.

Dbone 02-05-2025 02:52 PM

I'm not talking about that de-crim the spineless NDP half-assed. But it doesn't matter. Enjoy.

westopher 02-05-2025 04:23 PM

Axe the tax
Bring it home
Stop the drugs
Take back our bathrooms
Can't wait for the next saying.

Badhobz 02-05-2025 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9164705)
Oh yea, cause decrim wasn’t a total fucking disaster, let’s supercharge it.

That ship has sailed. Enabling hopeless people has no end game any longer, we are way passed that.

This is no difference than rampant, repeat, crime. We have no answer, we are terrible at addressing it, and as a result, the regular person suffers.

The drug issue is exactly the same, we are totally incompetent at dealing with root causes and providing support and recovery. So stuff like this, severely punishing the distribution is the only thing your typical, law abiding, person can hope for because thinking we’ll ever make tangible change in addiction and mental health feels like a pipe dream.

Yah but that’s such a depressing outlook bro. Ya gotta at least try and think positive. Otherwise you’ll just spiral into depression.

I just medicate myself with hobbies and food / porn. Otherwise if you think about this sort of thing it’ll drive you bonkers.

Hondaracer 02-05-2025 05:06 PM

When I’m walking around seeing dirty needles and shit everywhere under a liberal regime that apparently wants to help people, can’t think there’s much hope for the future

AstulzerRZD 02-05-2025 09:31 PM

so a lot can change quickly, esp with what's going on in the states

gravy train and being neighbours is cool right now but i'm also thinking about a future that might not be as stable

I just renewed my british passport

but all of y'all should be able to get HPI visa if you went to UBC/UofT/McGill

CivicBlues 02-05-2025 10:48 PM

umm most of us are over 40 or close to it...no one's giving us a temporary residence visa for having a degree we earned nearly 2 decades ago.

SkinnyPupp 02-05-2025 11:45 PM

Go be an English teacher in China, they're about to be the new top world power KEKW

sonick 02-06-2025 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9164728)
Yah but that’s such a depressing outlook bro. Ya gotta at least try and think positive. Otherwise you’ll just spiral into depression.

I just medicate myself with hobbies and food / porn. Otherwise if you think about this sort of thing it’ll drive you bonkers.

But if he did that, he wouldn't be able to complain any more.

68style 02-06-2025 07:00 AM

How’d you get a UK passport anyway, UK cancelled dual citizenships like over a decade ago… my mom used to have one since her mom was born there and she couldn’t keep renewing hers while maintaining a Canadian one

underscore 02-06-2025 08:00 AM

The UK has different rules for birthwright citizenship depending on what year you were born. I've been looking into getting mine and it's fairly straightforward but other ranges are trickier.

According to this dual citizenship is allowed though: https://www.gov.uk/dual-citizenship

6793026 02-06-2025 08:16 AM

i'm really looking forward to seeing Conservatives winning BUT since Liberal and NDP is tied to the hip, Conservatives doesn't get to do nothing because it'll be a repeat.

I thought PC was going to win it all, but given the last Trudeau 'i don't give an F speech', we'll see if people will still vote for PP.

JDMDreams 02-06-2025 10:13 AM

What about Dubai and Thailand citizenship. I think Dubai is pretty easy to get though investment. Around $150k according to tik Tok University. Then you would have crazy low taxes. :considered:

Harvey Specter 02-06-2025 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9164772)
How’d you get a UK passport anyway, UK cancelled dual citizenships like over a decade ago… my mom used to have one since her mom was born there and she couldn’t keep renewing hers while maintaining a Canadian one

I just obtained a UK passport by descent few years ago and had no problem keeping my Canadian passport.

Dbone 02-06-2025 10:21 AM

I also have both, and an NHS number to boot.

Harvey Specter 02-06-2025 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dbone (Post 9164805)
I also have both, and an NHS number to boot.

I assume you lived in the UK to obtain the NHS #?

BIC_BAWS 02-06-2025 11:17 AM

STRX Layoffs Due to Tariffs
Spoiler!


This post is a great example of how the 25% tariff and removal of de minimis (Sec 321, Entry Type 86) is having a large effect on Canadian businesses, even the ones trying to do it right and manufacture in Canada. This is a real example of the fragile state of our domestic manufacturing.

I'm pretty familiar with the fashion distribution industry. It definitely could be the perfect excuse for laying off anyway, but I can tell you with first hand experience from working with brands and retailers across Canada - people are suffering. Most are hanging on by a thread and this might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

The real challenge here for the Canadian economy is not just tariffs, but the layoffs that will be widespread. The people who get laid off will not necessarily have another manufacturing environment to go to because that company is likely also not hiring.


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