Canadian politics thread

[Manic!]

I just joined a facebook group called: Alberta, USA Statehood Movement


This is there banner.

[danned]

alberta, US wow

[Harvey Specter]

Funded by Russia?

[JDMDreams]

More like funded by USA? Can't more foreign interference than trying to take over the country.

[supafamous]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...plan-1.7455187

So right after Trump announces he's going to cut foreign aid PP comes out and says he will do the same and he'll use that money to build a military base in the arctic. He says this after recently mocking the Liberals for wanting to appoint an Arctic ambassador (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/itk...post-1.7405435). PP is in so deep with MAGA that he can't come up with any new playbooks.

Canada spends about $8b in foreign aid (depends on how you count actually - it can be up to $16b if you include "loans") with Ukraine getting the bulk of it so saying you'll cut foreign aid is just another way of saying you will help Russia defeat Ukraine.

If you look at the reporting, after Ukraine it's almost all humanitarian aid to 3rd world countries. I think foreign aid is essential policy - it buys influence and access and is morally right to do. The fact that China and Russia are so pumped about the US abandoning foreign aid is a great signal that it's essential diplomacy.

https://www.international.gc.ca/tran....aspx?lang=eng

[underscore]

Cut the aid to Ukraine, who is fighting Russia with zero risk to Canadian personnel or territory, and use it to fund an arctic base, so we can have Canadians fight Russia on Canadian territory. Brilliant plan Pierre.

[Harvey Specter]

I'll say it again: I think PP is cooked, and right now, he's probably holding onto a minority government.

He went all in with MAGA and now he looks lost, he has no clear message so good luck convincing Canadians that he'll defend Canada. If I were the Liberals and the NDP, I’d flood the zone with ads showing PP’s love for Trump and MAGA, then ask Canadians if he can be trusted.

[JDMDreams]

Yea I think the world got reminded that being a loud mouth and just saying things out of your ass isn't the way you run things.

[Tapioca]

Leger with some internet polling - they have a Liberal party led by Carney tied with the Conservatives:

https://leger360.com/fed-pol-feb-10/

[Manic!]

I'm having a hard time believing this, but wow.

Liberals now projected to win a majority with Mark Carney as party leader

https://cultmtl.com/2025/02/liberals...land-election/

[6793026]

^ can't be accurate. I can't see how people will think Liberal will win as majority. Hey, math and stats can only be true.
We thought Trump was going ot lose but won.

I do enjoy not seeing PP on the news cause it's all flooded with Trump.

[Dbone]

Time to start printing out stickers and banners with F*UCK Carney on it.

Has Mark Carney made it to the lizard persons list yet? Where's David Ick when you need him.

[westopher]

I don't know what kind of sample they are taking to believe libs will get a majority but I certainly don't believe they are doing a proper sample size or demographic for it to be correct.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by westopher

I don't know what kind of sample they are taking to believe libs will get a majority but I certainly don't believe they are doing a proper sample size or demographic for it to be correct.

I'm skeptical too though there is a clear pattern emerging. I look at 338 (https://338canada.com/polls.htm) to see all the polls together and there's definitely a big tick up in recent polls especially 2 that are highly rated as accurate.

[!LittleDragon]

I haven't paid attention to polling data since 2016... lol We've seen them be way off in recent years... to the point where it gets people's hopes up and becomes a huge let down.

[meme405]

Originally Posted by 6793026

We thought Trump was going ot lose but won.

Who thought trump was going to lose?

It was a dead heat in most polls and then after the assassination attempt most everyone had trump winning.

As time went on Kamala only fell further and further behind.

I'm not saying polls are correct, or even that they do any better than a coin flip, but in the trump vs harris situation, the polls were majorly more right than they were wrong.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by supafamous

I think history consistently shows that when economic inequality increases that there will be uprisings of some form - both the anti-billionaire rhetoric and the far right nationalists are born from the same place which is inequality (real or perceived).

I don't follow European or Asian news that much but I don't see the same anti-billionaire pushback that I see in the US where income equality is the worst (I don't really see it in Canada either). Making matters worse are that the most visible US billionaires are all kinda assholes - Musk is the obvious front runner but Zuck and Bezos do themselves no favours by siding with Trump so visibly. The "good" billionaires are all pretty silent.

The "saving" grace for the US is that there is such a mass of uneducated people that it's so easy to point their anger about their lives towards minorities instead of the people who are robbing them blind. If 40% of the population truly believes that Trump and these billionaires are looking after them then I'm not sure how the uprising actually happens - there's just not enough people left to fight the fight.

re: Wealth tax. I think the time has come for something like this (or higher taxes on non-employment income). More and more of the money being made is now not from employment so the pool of revenue for gov't is shrinking more and more of income comes from other sources that have lower taxes rates (if any taxes at all). My tax rate on my investment income this year is something like a third of my income tax rate (ballpark) and I made a lot more on the investment side this year than I did in employment income - my tax rate shouldn't really go down as I make more money. Nice for me but it doesn't sound fair overall.

Related: One of Zuck's lawyers just quit b/c of his "descent into toxic masculinity". https://www.instagram.com/p/DE0e0CUS..._web_copy_link

Compound this with the rich's and tech billionaires growing obsession with crypto currency.

It's not some coincidence that rightwing politicians, conservative thinktanks and billionaire tech bros are obsessed with pushing governments to pivot in that direction.

They imagine a world where their money becomes completely opaque (more-so than it is already) -- untraceable, untaxable, unbound to any country's currency.

This is their greatest pivot to effectively eliminating income taxes on themselves, and essentially crush governments from a tax solvency perspective.

It's as clear as fucking day.

[mikemhg]

I'm shocked how many people are just finally coming to the realization that PP is a wet paperbag candidate.

He doesn't carry an ounce of likability or charisma, when I'd hear friends who hated Trudeau but liked PP, they could never truly explain to me why they liked him. The man doesn't do interviews, he doesn't have a real stated policy stance, his funders and lobbying groups have done well with keeping him on the Trudeau offensive, while keeping his real agenda in the shadows.

With Trudeau gone, he finally has to tell the public what his plans are, and guess what, that same typical Conservative agenda of cutting taxes for the wealthy coupled with privatization of public entities simply doesn't fly with people in this current economic environment.

If the Liberals end up forming a minority government, or the Cons end up in a minority, this will be the biggest fumble of a slam dunk election in Canadian history.

Modern conservative policy is all bullshit, these people are not the same moderate middle-ground fiscally conservatives we all grew up on, these people are radical accelerationists, motived by greed.

[6793026]

I did a quick search on PC & harper - he was also never keen on interviews.

3 things i have to say and agree during his 8 years
1) abolished the penny
2) RESP
3) They held budget super tight until the very end (hence surplus duh)but then Quebec really hammered then and they forced to really open the taps.
4) oh and the failure of the gun registry which tanked and billions spent that went no where.

Do i agree what the conversative did... not at all... What's Trudeau's legacy... errr

1) reconciliation day
2) some BS emission
3) huge immigration policy
4) legalize cannabis
5) dealt with Freedom Convoy and Emergencies Act invocation + COVID

take it with a grain of salt on the nothingness on each leader.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by 6793026

I did a quick search on PC & harper - he was also never keen on interviews.

3 things i have to say and agree during his 8 years
1) abolished the penny
2) RESP
3) They held budget super tight until the very end (hence surplus duh)but then Quebec really hammered then and they forced to really open the taps.
4) oh and the failure of the gun registry which tanked and billions spent that went no where.

Do i agree what the conversative did... not at all... What's Trudeau's legacy... errr

1) reconciliation day
2) some BS emission
3) huge immigration policy
4) legalize cannabis
5) dealt with Freedom Convoy and Emergencies Act invocation + COVID

take it with a grain of salt on the nothingness on each leader.

Turd touts the Liberal government's accomplishment of strengthening the electrical vehicle supply chain in Canada:

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-re...hains-canadian

-from the PM's website:

Critical minerals are central to major global industries like clean technology, health care, aerospace, and computing. They are used in solar panels, phones, and computers, and are vital to produce electric vehicles. Permanent magnets and rare earth elements are important inputs into electric vehicle motors and many clean technology applications.

Canada’s Critical Minerals Strategy is backed by up to $3.8 billion in federal support, announced in Budget 2022. The proposed funding covers the whole critical minerals supply chain, from geoscience and exploration to mineral processing, manufacturing, and recycling applications, including support for research, development, and technological deployment.

Saskatchewan is a Canadian leader in producing sustainable critical minerals, with a rich supply of uranium. The world’s largest producer of potash, the province is home to the world’s most sustainable potash mine.

Recent federal investments in the development of critical minerals include a contribution of up to $222 million through the Strategic Innovation Fund to help Rio Tinto Fer et Titane to increase its production of critical minerals and a $27 million contribution to E3 Lithium Ltd. through the Strategic Innovation Fund’s Net Zero Accelerator initiative.

Canada currently produces 60 minerals and metals at 200 mines.


What I think that our government should do, whether its a Liberal or Conservative federal government, is use one of our country's big assets for leverage against Trump's tariffs.

The U.S. desperately needs critical minerals such as lithium and cobalt for their electronics, semiconductor chip manufacturing, and their military weapons.

If the Americans want our critical mineral exports, Canada can restrict exports of these minerals to the U.S.

If export embargos of these critical minerals to the U.S. is not an option, what about mining companies raising the prices of lithium, cobalt, and all other kinds of these minerals big time? Raise the prices like 3, 4, 5 times the price haha.

Canada must do a much better job in diversifying its trade partners too. I read an online article recently about the U.S. accounting for 54 percent of B.C's total exports. All levels of government, and the private sector need to do the hard work to establish stronger trade ties with other countries like China, Japan, and European countries.

We cannot be so dependent on the U.S. to buy our goods and natural resources.

[JDMDreams]

In before we become United States of Canaindia

[Manic!]

I posted the latest polling data by leger on a local facebook group and the thread blew up. All these old people are pissed. Claiming its fake or Ontario's fault. It's hilarious.

[CivicBlues]

Honda in shambles

[68style]

He's furiously writing a manifesto to Tim Horton's asking them why specialty donuts aren't included in 12 packs

[EvoFire]

Honda has been quiet.