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In Canada we don't have provinces that can simply abdicate the tax burden from the wealthy via the total elimination of income taxes.
In states like Texas, you have zero income tax, putting the tax burden disproportionately on the poor and middle class through property, and sales taxes.
It's a fundamentally broken system in many places down there that results in areas where you can go from the King William District (a fairly affluent area in SA, and four blocks down in South Town be in complete squalor).
I should post some videos of my daily drive abouts, it was all quite jarring to see on a daily basis.
I find it so hard to get Canadian news nowadays with news being banned on social media. Anyway, enrollment is higher by 1000 people this year, compared to last year. Also hot take and I hope I'm wrong but this whole 51st state / annexation / US vs Canada thing is starting to feel a lot like Russia vs Ukraine.
I find it so hard to get Canadian news nowadays with news being banned on social media. Anyway, enrollment is higher by 1000 people this year, compared to last year. Also hot take and I hope I'm wrong but this whole 51st state / annexation / US vs Canada thing is starting to feel a lot like Russia vs Ukraine.
Putin is Trump's handler, so he's going to learn from the master.
If Trump makes a move for Canada, he'll likely go after Greenland and Panama as well. Russia will try to take a European country, my bet is Poland. Israel will take Gaza and likely attack Iran. China will attempt to take Taiwan. NATO will be non-existent, leaving every country to fend for itself.
What an insane logic. Like if 60 of us went and moved somewhere with no infrastructure next year we'd expect Canada to come in and start building us hospitals and grocery stores?
Infrastructure is there to service a population. Have you ever played sim city?
You realize that this is exactly what the government does with most communities right?
They spend inordinate amounts to service remote communities of anywhere from 100 to several thousand with postal, clean water, sewage treatment, electricity, communication, etc.
Money that logically based on the userbase they will never recoup ever.
This has been in the news constantly over the last decade, that large swaths of canada dont have access to treated drinking water, or good access to comms/electricity, and the outrage was huge. Here is an article from literally a month ago:
If you google it there is a hundred outlining the exact same thing.
Hell Ontario was about to a hundred million on starlink to service some of these places, cause that was cheaper to the option of having to run trunk lines.
Again I wasnt making the argument that Canada is a third world country, neither for that matter is the US, but what I am saying is there is impoverished and suffering people on both sides of the border.
In Canada we don't have provinces that can simply abdicate the tax burden from the wealthy via the total elimination of income taxes.
In states like Texas, you have zero income tax, putting the tax burden disproportionately on the poor and middle class through property, and sales taxes.
It's a fundamentally broken system in many places down there that results in areas where you can go from the King William District (a fairly affluent area in SA, and four blocks down in South Town be in complete squalor).
I should post some videos of my daily drive abouts, it was all quite jarring to see on a daily basis.
Ehh WA state has a similar tax system and it’s not all destitute aside from the hick towns across the cascade mountains
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You realize that this is exactly what the government does with most communities right?
They spend inordinate amounts to service remote communities of anywhere from 100 to several thousand with postal, clean water, sewage treatment, electricity, communication, etc.
Money that logically based on the userbase they will never recoup ever.
This has been in the news constantly over the last decade, that large swaths of canada dont have access to treated drinking water, or good access to comms/electricity, and the outrage was huge. Here is an article from literally a month ago:
If you google it there is a hundred outlining the exact same thing.
Hell Ontario was about to a hundred million on starlink to service some of these places, cause that was cheaper to the option of having to run trunk lines.
Again I wasnt making the argument that Canada is a third world country, neither for that matter is the US, but what I am saying is there is impoverished and suffering people on both sides of the border.
I understand that but it isn't unlimited, nor is comparing the remote living conditions in a town of 200 in Saskatchewan to crumbling infrastructure in a city of over a million like San Antonio.
Quality of life in the US on average is lower than ours for the average person and that won't change unless we get rid of public health or they get public health. It's measurable right in life expectancy, which probably would skew far heavier if you were to look at the bottom 50% of earners even further.
That said I don't think reservations should have the same caveats as other remote communities, based on the fact that these places existed as a choice of the government, and not necessarily the communities themselves.
Their purpose was to segregate indigenous people unfairly and as a result they should be able to have whatever is necessary paid for by the government.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Worth mentioning.
Net 76 indigenous communities have clean drinking water that did not prior to this government, so the rhetoric of libs turning this into a third world country seems pretty silly.
147 long-term drinking water advisories lifted since November 2015.
33 long-term drinking water advisories are in effect in 31 communities.
2025: 2 long-term drinking water advisories added and 0 lifted
2024: 6 long-term drinking water advisories added and 4 lifted
2023: 3 long-term drinking water advisories added and 6 lifted
2022: 7 long-term drinking water advisories added and 11 lifted
2021: 7 long-term drinking water advisories added and 28 lifted
2020: 13 long-term drinking water advisories added and 11 lifted
2019: 6 long-term drinking water advisories added and 9 lifted
2018: 10 long-term drinking water advisories added and 38 lifted
2017: 13 long-term drinking water advisories added and 19 lifted
2016: 10 long-term drinking water advisories added and 17 lifted
2015: 3 long-term drinking water advisories added and 4 lifted
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Ehh WA state has a similar tax system and it’s not all destitute aside from the hick towns across the cascade mountains
I'm not fan of Washington's tax structure, but it's definitely more equitable than Texas, there is a reason many tech companies had fled there in the 2000s.
They're able to make it work because they have some of the highest taxes on gas, excise taxes on services, highest liquor taxes in the nation, high sales tax, capital gains taxes, B&O taxes (big revenue source), etc.
Two completely different tax structures between the two states, they are not similar whatsoever outside of the lack of basic income tax.
Ehh WA state has a similar tax system and it’s not all destitute aside from the hick towns across the cascade mountains
I'd guess this is a reflection of the difference between liberal and conservative leadership - Texas is a screw the poor state while Washington is far more liberal so the impact of a lack of an income tax (which is stupid) comes out differently.