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Great68 03-12-2025 12:45 PM

1) Trump put 25% tariff on Steel & Aluminum for no reason
2) Ford puts 25% on electricity export in response
3) Trump threatens an additional 25% on Steel & Aluminum in response to Ford
4) Ford backs down 25% on electricity
5) Trumps backs down on the additional 25% on Steel & Aluminum

So the original 25% on Steel & Aluminum is still in effect, IMO Ford lost that round. But a silver lining is that Lutnick at least agreed to an In-Person meeting with Ford & Leblanc, so at least some dialogue seems to have opened up as a result of this.

spoon.ek9 03-12-2025 01:34 PM

Essentially Ford put it on pause, not entirely remove it as a possibility. He says the US extended an olive branch by offering the in-person meeting. At first, I thought the same as many that he caved but we haven't seen the final results of anything just yet.

I believe Carney made a bit of a mistake regarding his post on power being shut off in Gaza, saying that things like electricity shouldn't be used as political tools. Obviously the vultures took this as an opportunity to point towards Ford and his proposed surcharge/threat to entirely cut off power.

EvoFire 03-12-2025 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9168520)
I've never skipped over reading so many posts on this site as I have in the last week.

I actually left, until Hobz told me the crackhead was banned and to come back.

Honda and Hehe provided opposing views, but they don't diarrhea over everything. I enjoy reading their opposing views to see a different perspective.

Jason just made things not enjoyable. I never watched that stupid Trudeau video with Israel flag that he posted like 4 times. I don't get it and seeing it's AI generated cover I have no desire to watch it.

meme405 03-13-2025 10:42 AM

I've been working not in canada the last little bit, but those of you who are, how has some of this uncertainty affected you? Genuinely curious.

The part that always gets me about the news and the politicians talking about this stuff, is they always talk so broadly, they talk in billions of dollars of goods, and very broad product categories, and in my head I was just thinking like is there somewhere where what is impacted and not impacted is clearly layed out? Like if I was a business trying to navigate what the fuck was going on would I even be able to keep track? How are the officials who are meant to administer this able to know what they are supposed to do?

Like I mean they announce a tariff it goes on at 12:01am, and then 12 hours later they back off of it? For that 12 hours did customs agents really collect 25% tariff on a few thousand trucks worth of stuff that came over the border? Is there reports on how much money is being gathered?

I'm just so confused at how this is working. In my head I am imagining a situation similar to the GST holiday, where most retailers were like fuck we'd rather not have this cause we have no idea what is and isn't counted cause the list is so confusing.

unit 03-13-2025 10:56 AM

i have a customer who regularly delivers their aluminum product to the US.
he told me that when he went 2 days go there was no tariff, but when he went a few weeks ago he had to pay an extra $1300 once, so it's on and off.

pastarocket 03-13-2025 11:06 AM

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/0...-denied-entry/

What a nightmare for this woman from Abbotsford!

-from the article:

An Abbotsford woman is calling for help to get her 35-year-old daughter home after she was denied entry into the United States and has since been held in detention.

Alexis Eagles says her daughter, Jasmine Mooney, tried to enter the United States on March 3 with a visa for a consulting job. According to Eagles, “She was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at the San Ysidro border crossing, where she was held for three nights.”


Since Mooney’s initial detainment, Eagles says she has been moved across several detention facilities, including ones in California and Arizona.

She was transferred to Otay Mesa Detention Centre in San Diego and held for another three nights. On Sunday, March 9, the online tracking system indicated that she had been released. We assumed this meant she was being deported and escorted to an airport. However, 24 hours later, there was no sign of her, no communication, and we were extremely worried,” Eagles continued on her post on Facebook.


“We eventually learned that about 30 people, including Jasmine, were forcibly removed from their cells at 3:00 am and transferred to the San Luis Detention Center in Arizona. They are housed together in a single concrete cell with no natural light, fluorescent lights that are never turned off, no mats, no blankets, and limited bathroom facilities.

underscore 03-13-2025 11:48 AM

I'm pretty glad I'm done crossing the border for work. Even with the right visa I was routing my trips so I'd clear customs in Canada instead of the US just in case.

GLOW 03-13-2025 12:11 PM

i wonder how this will affect tourism as well with these types of arcticles.

JDMDreams 03-13-2025 12:13 PM

I thought people stopped going down already, like long time ago due to exchange rates, and especially now with the 25% surcharge

Manic! 03-13-2025 01:35 PM

My buddies and I have all said we are no longer going to the US. Last year I was in New York and the year before that we went to LA. I have had a lot of customers tell me the same.

Gumby 03-13-2025 01:43 PM

I'm not going to the US for the foreseeable future.

Unfortunately I have two items pre-ordered and addressed to Point Roberts for delivery in the next few months. I'm going to be bent over by CBSA on my way back... :cry:

EvoFire 03-13-2025 01:47 PM

We were planning to go to San Diego again, but that's off the table now.

Might still hit up the Ridge this year though, but probably would be my only trip to the States.

Hehe 03-13-2025 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9168443)
ok that's enough of that. I'm sorry to the people who found him amusing. If you are amused by people like that, go to 4chan, there's millions of him.

What rule exactly did he break?

Jason00S2000 03-13-2025 05:12 PM

What's going on in Alberta?


westopher 03-13-2025 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9168677)
I'm not going to the US for the foreseeable future.

Unfortunately I have two items pre-ordered and addressed to Point Roberts for delivery in the next few months. I'm going to be bent over by CBSA on my way back... :cry:

I actually feel really bad for the people in Point Robert's. They are way more reliant on Canada than the US.

Qmx323 03-13-2025 05:32 PM

Loved that grocery store, had some great schnacks.

Cheap gas, dodging shipping fees, and schnacks.

Sad, America. Sad.

spoon.ek9 03-13-2025 05:35 PM

they will unfortunately be the biggest victims here. basically the children of a couple going through divorce; powerless and at no fault of their own.

JDMDreams 03-13-2025 05:44 PM

I didn't look into it but based on the head lines the meeting was a bust? Put the surcharge back on electricity?

6793026 03-13-2025 06:59 PM

get ready for lay offs.

How to I put this nicely. Global companies with US offices with Canada branches will a) have Cdn offices bitch like crazy with TONS of companies bailing on contracts / lost of sales.
b) US leaders will say MEH to canada as Canadians are just a rounding error.
c) US leaders will sooner feel it in their pocket books as our numbers still count to something, but quotas are not being met .... so all in all..

quotas gets dropped. budgets get slashed. jobs will be gone. Nothing people in US can say much as ... heck, it's their own president.

spoon.ek9 03-13-2025 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9168724)
I didn't look into it but based on the head lines the meeting was a bust? Put the surcharge back on electricity?

this article (posted about an hour ago) suggests the opposite

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/0...y-of-commerce/

who knows though, things can easily still go to shit

supafamous 03-14-2025 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 9168734)
this article (posted about an hour ago) suggests the opposite

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/0...y-of-commerce/

who knows though, things can easily still go to shit

Feels like a lot of diplomatic hope rather than reality as we still have to deal with a convicted felon, rapist, fraudster, who is a living monument to dementia and senility. When the adults talk it seems like we can make progress but at the end the person with the nuclear codes is a mad man who changes his mind multiple times a day who gets aggrieved by the consequences of his own actions.

In his first term there were adults in the room who could temper his behaviour but now all we have our idiot loyalists across the board who aren't qualified for their jobs - they are the DEI hires that they keep warning us about. There are very few controls on Trump now and I can't find any real reason to not believe that he wants to do what he says.

Wall Street is getting their faces eaten by the leopards right now - they thought Trump couldn't possibly be as stupid as he is now but Trump promised he would be EXACTLY this stupid (and more).

Traum 03-14-2025 09:30 AM

Lutnick sounds exactly like a 2-faced bastard that I hate dealing with. "Friendly and constructive" when meeting with Ford, but dissing Ford on Fox News as someone trying to act like the big man, and that he got put back into place by Trump. At the end of the day, he is just another yes man follow whatever orders his ridiculous boss has given him. I have zero respect for this kind of scumballs.

At the end of the day, I am pretty disappointed with Ford too as he seems to have over-estimated the amount of bargaining power he had, and overplayed his hand as a result.

Jason00S2000 03-14-2025 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9168785)
Wall Street is getting their faces eaten by the leopards right now - they thought Trump couldn't possibly be as stupid as he is now but Trump promised he would be EXACTLY this stupid (and more).

Do you think Trump is stupid and didn't know Pfizer would make 50b+ from the COVID vaccine?

This is coordinated. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump and King Charles are working together to make sure Mark Carney is in power in Canada. What makes people forget everything else other than a mutual enemy?

The people are being played. The billionaires are not our friends. This is all fake and staged to keep people in line. Look at how quickly everyone adopted this "elbows up" bullshit and did you see the powers David Eby wants in B.C. now?


Remember, there are no accidents in politics and with the elite.

Dbone 03-14-2025 10:15 AM

They're going to make us eat crickets!

Jason00S2000 03-14-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dbone (Post 9168809)
They're going to make us eat crickets!

Only 10 years ago, the DTES was not nearly this bad. I should I know, I lived down there from 2008-2015 and walked around all hours of the day and night. Would go to afterparties at beats and bikes right in the heart of cracktown.

Things have become MUCH worse under the NDP.

If you think they wouldn't feed the elderly or disabled bugs to save a little money and add a little extra punishment, don't kid yourself. Our society is thoroughly malevolent compared to the society we grew up in. I used to do meals-on-wheels with my mother in the 90's as a teenager, and we'd have 30+ meals in the backseat to hand out to people and give to seniors on our delivery route. Many days we had extra food left over because we couldn't find poor people who needed it. Hastings and Main was always skid row, but the explosion of misery, suffering, and death has been incredible.

Where's the "elbows up" for our fellow citizens? How come this shit isn't an emergency?

Enjoy the video I made!



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