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Infiniti 03-17-2025 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9169258)
my 2c:

- I think PP will still take a minority gov because I think US related fear and Carney hype will die down by end of year, allowing him some time to play on canadians' fear about Liberal gov

End of year?? An election is most likely being called this week and Canadians are headed to the polls in the next month or so.

Infiniti 03-17-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9169288)

I'm open minded so I enjoyed parts of it, but the machismo stuff definitely started to change my opinion in a negative way. If I was some white dude living down there permanently, observing that all the time, seeing my town and city change demographically, I might like me some Trump and start disliking Hispanics, proclaiming deportation, and wall building :lol

Yeah, but I assume that most of those Hispanics you saw/encountered were already citizens so its not like you can deport them. In other words, that jalisco culture is there to stay even if you close the borders and deport illegals by the thousands.

mikemhg 03-17-2025 10:07 AM

^Of course, but I'm speaking in the vain of an average MAGA-head, I don't think the average person would know that nuance, most of these people don't even know that Texas was wholly Mexico at one point. A true Texan understands that, but many (about a quarter) are transplants from other states.

A lot of these guys still look at the US as a white, Anglo-Saxon country.

Hehe 03-17-2025 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9169155)
Coming back from living in Texas, I'm finding myself becoming more and more racist against all the influx of brown immigrants here, and I'm not happy I'm becoming this way.

As much as I hated Texas, it was refreshing to see every racial background working service related jobs, it felt more balanced from that perspective. Coming back to Vancouver it's become so jarring how Indians have become this weird feudal class of cheap workers for all our businesses. You can tell they know they're being taken advantage of too because they're quality of service writ large is just garbage, I think that's what causing me more frustration day to day. I find sometimes they can't even speak basic English, and I wonder "How were you able to immigrate without even speaking the native language?".

I just bought a new flat screen for the front room and I'm selling my prior one on FB, and I'm not kidding 99% of the messages (over 50) are from Indians, haggling with me, asking me to drop whatever item off in Surrey. I feel like an asshole because I dug through all the messages just to find the one Vietnamese guy in the sea of crap to specifically sell to him instead.

When my GF sells stuff on FB, she gets nothing but messages from brown dudes wanting to meet up and "buy" her skirt, she's becoming the same way now :lol

It just feels like these immigration numbers don't add up, at least from daily anecdotal experiences, it's so heavily skewed in one direction, to one diaspora of people.

I'm venting here, and I love my brown friends, but god damn this city is pushing me in a direction, and changing me to the kind of person I don't like.

It will eventually get to you Mike. It's a matter of time, especially if you have kids.

What you are feeling isn't racism or xenophobia. It's the realization that these newcomers are unwilling to adapt to our culture and our values. Look at what's happening in Europe. It's being taken over by new immigrants but they aren't willing to adapt to the culture of their new country. Instead, they are trying to convert such country into their own. If one objects or say anything against it, that person is racist/Islamphobic or whatever word they have for that.

But since when does society change for new immigrants? We cherish their arrival and respect their believes and culture, but it is for the newcomers to learn our values and become part of this society.

Once you realize that the more you tolerate, the more they take advantage of you, you'd realize one day that the lefties ideology is so fucked up. It's got nothing to do of embracing the newcomers, it's about the preservation of your own identity. If you identify as a Canadian, would you be happy that suddenly the whole Canadian value suddenly turned into Indian value?

Manic! 03-17-2025 12:26 PM

With America's melting pot you end up with a bunch of milk toast minorities who try there hardest to be American but still end up being shit on because they are not white.


The biggest Artist out of BC right now is a 28 year old who moved to BC from India to live with family after his parents died. He had just under 4.5 billion streams on spotify with 13 songs having over a 100 million streams. His latest song is with One Republic. He is signed with Warner music.


This is the person whop produced the song. his Name is Ikky. Born and raised in ontario. Has a ton of hits with a bunch or artists

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...v6LY8zPgSJmjMw

BIC_BAWS 03-17-2025 12:37 PM

wild we got Indian-American celebs before GTA 6

Jason00S2000 03-17-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9169336)
The biggest Artist out of BC right now is a 28 year old who moved to BC from India to live with family after his parents died. He had just under 4.5 billion streams on spotify with 13 songs having over a 100 million streams. His latest song is with One Republic. He is signed with Warner music.

Music industry is completely fake dude. The AI Music is far, far superior to fleshbag garbage in sound, variety, and, ironically, more authentic than anything we've heard in 10 years. The celebrities and musicians you are fed by the TV, radio, and social media are all hand-picked by the system with completely manufactured images and brands. Zero authenticity.

Jason00S2000 03-17-2025 01:07 PM

Turns out, one of Mark Carney's daughters is a radical, pro-trans child activist, and I brought all of the receipts. Who wants to read it?

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...95/smaller.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20210802...ry-lesbianism/

If you read their writing, it is completely bonkers, the purest, distilled woke you've ever read. This is what higher education cranks out now.

Hipsterism, which was anti-authoritarian and culturally independent, was deliberately dismantled and replaced with the LGBTQ+ industrial complex, because it benefits the ruling class.

Billionaires, big pharma, and big tech don’t fear identity-based movements at all, in fact, they profit from them. A trans child is a lifelong medical customer, a gender-confused activist is a loyal enforcer of state ideology, and an identity-obsessed population is too distracted to form real counterculture because they are busy fighting each other, while the elites laugh all the way to the bank and halls of power.

The system doesn’t want cultural minorities who create powerful, independent movements, why would it? The system wants sexual minorities who create consumers, dependency, and obedience. Rebellion isn’t banned, it’s been rebranded into something that serves the machine with the full support of institutions, the media, government, and the billionaire class.

https://i.ibb.co/Df7PrZwB/carneydaughter.jpg

Also, whenever discussing hipsterism, this video is mandatory to watch:


Manic! 03-17-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9169342)
Music industry is completely fake dude. The AI Music is far, far superior to fleshbag garbage in sound, variety, and, ironically, more authentic than anything we've heard in 10 years. The celebrities and musicians you are fed by the TV, radio, and social media are all hand-picked by the system with completely manufactured images and brands. Zero authenticity.

What do you think AI music is trained on?

Manic! 03-17-2025 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9169345)
Turns out, one of Mark Carney's daughters is a radical, pro-trans child activist, and I brought all of the receipts. Who wants to read it?

What if your kid decides to run for public office? What are they going to say about you?

Jason00S2000 03-17-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9169348)
What if your kid decides to run for public office? What are they going to say about you?

When I was a child, I went through puberty early, and I was shy about how my dong grew so big, so fast, when I was like 10-11... someone tried to molest me when I was delivering newspapers for the Vancouver Sun and The Province.

This lead to me being quite shy about clothes that showed off my "bump" on the front of my pants as a kid, and I asked my parents to buy me longer t-shirts, which helped me feel more comfortable after the evil dude tried to molest me, and directly commented on my bulge while doing so. My father was too much of a coward to go beat the shit out of the dude.

Well, as soon as I got over that and realized what a gross homo that person was and discovered how fun making out with chicks was, I got over that pretty fast.

Now, fast forward to 2025, any kid like myself feeling uncomfortable about that unwanted attention at 10-11 could very easily be diagnosed as having gender dysphoria and given blockers, hormones, and then be pressured into taking a girl's name and tucking. I bet most of the replies from people here, are from people who don't have any kids and have no idea how malleable kid's brains are. They are extremely open to suggestion. Hence why we used to tell kids "don't talk to strangers" and we acknowledged that kids were kids and unable to think about big decisions until they are adults.

Manic! 03-17-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9169349)
When I was a child, I went through puberty early, and I was shy about how my dong grew so big, so fast, when I was like 10-11... someone tried to molest me when I was delivering newspapers for the Vancouver Sun and The Province.

This lead to me being quite shy about clothes that showed off my "bump" on the front of my pants as a kid, and I asked my parents to buy me longer t-shirts, which helped me feel more comfortable after the evil dude tried to molest me, and directly commented on my bulge while doing so. My father was too much of a coward to go beat the shit out of the dude.

Well, as soon as I got over that and realized what a gross homo that person was and discovered how fun making out with chicks was, I got over that pretty fast.

Now, fast forward to 2025, any kid like myself feeling uncomfortable about that unwanted attention at 10-11 could very easily be diagnosed as having gender dysphoria and given blockers, hormones, and then be pressured into taking a girl's name and tucking. I bet most of the replies from people here, are from people who don't have any kids and have no idea how malleable kid's brains are. They are extremely open to suggestion. Hence why we used to tell kids "don't talk to strangers" and we acknowledged that kids were kids and unable to think about big decisions until they are adults.

What does all that have to do with my comment?

BIC_BAWS 03-17-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9169342)
Music industry is completely fake dude. The AI Music is far, far superior to fleshbag garbage in sound, variety, and, ironically, more authentic than anything we've heard in 10 years. The celebrities and musicians you are fed by the TV, radio, and social media are all hand-picked by the system with completely manufactured images and brands. Zero authenticity.

In a different thread, I'd love to get your take on the porn industry nowadays. Is it dead with OnlyFans and creator first platforms taking over? What algorithm is being push for porn categories and why?

Jason00S2000 03-17-2025 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9169352)
What does all that have to do with my comment?

It is always framed as "hate" when you question sexual minorities. I think my point of view can be explained as coming from a rational place of healthy skepticism, especially when the entire establishment is in support of something.

68style 03-17-2025 02:11 PM

Why are some people so obsessed with transgender people?

There’s so crazy few of them… so why are they such a focus for… well… you and others?

Just leave them be they’re not bothering you. At least none I’ve ever met bothered anyone. Like I said before statistics show that 2 out of every 100,000 kids actually try to convert so why are you soooooooo worried?

Seems to me you worrying about them and fighting about it with everybody is exactly what “they” want? More division between people over nothingburgers focused away from actual issues.

Badhobz 03-17-2025 02:28 PM

Yeah I hate those eskimos so much more…. Fuck you and your furry hats

Manic! 03-17-2025 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9169355)
It is always framed as "hate" when you question sexual minorities. I think my point of view can be explained as coming from a rational place of healthy skepticism, especially when the entire establishment is in support of something.

You missed my point completely. You are an ex junkie who made porn. Is that relevant if your kid runs for office?

Jason00S2000 03-17-2025 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9169356)
Why are some people so obsessed with transgender people?

There's so crazy few of them… so why are they such a focus for… well… you and others?

Just leave them be they're not bothering you. At least none I've ever met bothered anyone. Like I said before statistics show that 2 out of every 100,000 kids actually try to convert so why are you soooooooo worried?

Seems to me you worrying about them and fighting about it with everybody is exactly what "they" want? More division between people over nothingburgers focused away from actual issues.

>cracks knuckles<

Oh my sweet, summer child...

If you're in publishing, education, tech, fashion, or any industry dominated by liberal orthodoxy, you know this isn't a passing phase. It's a gatekeeper. Controlling who gets hired, who gets published, and who gets a seat at the table. Disagree? You're out. All the talk about inclusivity is thrown out the window the moment you think for youself. You won't get published, promoted, or even invited to speak. It's a shibboleth. You either conform or disappear.

This isn't a fringe movement. It's mainstream, institutionalized, and backed by the full weight of corporate power, government law, and the cultural establishment. Critical thought's a crime. Skepticism? Hate speech. See Dallas Brodie. You don't question things; you must obey. Hipster-flavoured rebellion was captured and turned into a machine that feeds the very system the aesthetic pushed back against. Wokeness isn't freedom, it's total compliance. They've hijacked rebellion and turned it into a tool to lock you into thinking, speaking, and acting in a single way. The moment you question, you're labeled a hater, a threat, and the whole progressive battalion comes at you. While you claim "such a small group of people", they are just the tip of the spear with the full weight of progressives, politicians, institutions and billionaires behind it. Anyone who is on WokeScene can see how modern Canadians tend to act in complete agreement on every current_thing. They know the nail that sticks up, gets hammered down.

The power structures behind the LGBTQ+ and trans movements? They're not revolutionary but they cloak themselves that way. They're the front line of controlled opposition for the billionaire virtue-signaling elite. Straight progressives like Mark Carney and Trudeau parade behind them, marching with fervour, using them as shields to push their own agendas because questioning their front line troops is a recipe for a total cancellation in Canada these days.

Totalitarianism didn't come wrapped in a flag or holding a cross, here in Canada, it's wearing a dress and carrying puberty blockers for children. If you dare to question it, the full weight of the progressive machine, the liberal orthodoxy, comes down on you. Just like it did during COVID when you had real, legitimate questions of the American vaccine for massive American profits, pushed with sweeping government powers.

This is the new establishment: climate change, Ukraine, trans rights, COVID vaccines, BLM and the "215 dead children", these are the sacred cows you can't challenge. This is the era of the "elbows up" elites, the influencers with their woke narratives. We all know if you question any of the above, your liberal "friends" will be the first to come at you with daggers dripping with venom.

You don't have to look hard to see how cultural power has been totally twisted. It's not about freedom anymore. it's about getting you to comply with the new order. Wokeness isn't about feeding the poor, lifting up your fellow man, or challenging billionaires, it's about protecting the narrative that protects the status quo.

Wokeness is marching us all towards a future where we all agree with the party, because, if you don't, you're going to be jobless, homeless, and out on the street.

Badhobz 03-17-2025 03:02 PM


VRYALT3R3D 03-17-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9169356)
Why are some people so obsessed with transgender people?

There’s so crazy few of them… so why are they such a focus for… well… you and others?

Just leave them be they’re not bothering you. At least none I’ve ever met bothered anyone. Like I said before statistics show that 2 out of every 100,000 kids actually try to convert so why are you soooooooo worried?

Seems to me you worrying about them and fighting about it with everybody is exactly what “they” want? More division between people over nothingburgers focused away from actual issues.

Flame away, but transgenderism is the only mental illness with surgical body mutilation as the “cure.” All we hear is that people need to love their bodies (it’s ok to be fat, ugly, whatever), but if someone thinks they need to surgically alter their body and become dependent on hormone therapy for life, we all jump on board. We are humoring mentally ill people.

AstulzerRZD 03-17-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9169317)
It will eventually get to you Mike. It's a matter of time, especially if you have kids.

What you are feeling isn't racism or xenophobia. It's the realization that these newcomers are unwilling to adapt to our culture and our values. Look at what's happening in Europe. It's being taken over by new immigrants but they aren't willing to adapt to the culture of their new country. Instead, they are trying to convert such country into their own. If one objects or say anything against it, that person is racist/Islamphobic or whatever word they have for that.

But since when does society change for new immigrants? We cherish their arrival and respect their believes and culture, but it is for the newcomers to learn our values and become part of this society.

Once you realize that the more you tolerate, the more they take advantage of you, you'd realize one day that the lefties ideology is so fucked up. It's got nothing to do of embracing the newcomers, it's about the preservation of your own identity. If you identify as a Canadian, would you be happy that suddenly the whole Canadian value suddenly turned into Indian value?

Do we get great by playing defense or by letting fresh ideas in, remixing cultures, and building something new?

Vancouver? Li Ka-shing turned industrial wasteland into False Creek, Concord Pacific, and the Seawall.

NYC? Jewish immigrants built Goldman Sachs and Ralph Lauren. Hip-hop, from the Bronx. Italians? Frank Sinatra, Martin Scorsese and even Pizza is like a 50B industry.

SF & Tech? Sergey Brin (Google, Russian), Jensen Huang with Nvidia, creating trillions of value out of thin air.

Paris Fashion? Jazz blew up there because of Josephine (African American). Balenciaga's Spanish, Yohji 's Japanese, and Margiela's.

---

OTOH, Cars? Fuck the imports, we want our 160HP 7 liter V8s. Honda/Toyota should be banned and gas should still be lead.

OR we could be German - declare immigration has failed, underinvest with no deficit budgets, let the Russians start an energy crisis, let VW get eaten up by the Chinese.

We could even eat potatoes, sheppards pie, and fade into irrelevance like the British and Japanese economies.

CivicBlues 03-17-2025 03:46 PM

Step right up folks!! In this thread we have:

a two-time immigrant complaining about immigrants.

a former smut peddler complaining about moral degeneracy of transgenders.

westopher 03-17-2025 03:53 PM

"But but but you can't say anything these days! Censorship! I'm the victim here!"

Jason00S2000 03-17-2025 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9169369)
Step right up folks!! In this thread we have:

a two-time immigrant complaining about immigrants.

a former smut peddler complaining about moral degeneracy of transgenders.

Oh no, I legally sold adult material to consenting adults, and now I'm the moral authority on checks notes not forcing an entire society to bend the knee to a fringe sexual ideology under threat of cancellation, job loss, and institutional and state enforcement.

Here's the difference buddy: Nobody was compelled by law, policy, or social coercion to buy or view porn. Nobody.

Nobody lost their job or faced a woke mob for saying "Nope, not my thing."

Nobody was fired from their jobs, dogpiled on, assaulted, ostracized or even possibly charged for hate speech for refusing to press play on a Sasha Grey video. Porn is just a product for entertainment, like professional wrestling, but naked. You can take it or leave it.

Meanwhile, your sacred cow comes with speech laws, workplace mandates, government funding, institutional support and an entire liberal orthodoxy apparatus ready to crush dissent. Your comparison is weaker than a stock S2000 differential.

CivicBlues 03-17-2025 04:08 PM

Nah it's called living in a society. No one's forcing you to interact with Trans, gays, wokies, natives etc. if you don't want to. But if you don't want to live by society's rules or continue to live in the rules of a society of a bygone era, then society has every right to not interact with you.

So perk up or shut up buttercup, let's see them titties again.


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