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welfare 10-18-2019 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovebacon (Post 8963419)
Where can I get up to date with the current election and who I should vote for?

I managed to find some information.

The NDP is making some great statement for their roles. What are your thoughts?

It shouldn't be for anyone to tell you who you should vote for.
I'd suggest you go to each parties site and view their platforms. Think critically.
Start with the party you feel you'd be least likely to vote for.

Don't be lazy. Your vote is far more important than the 45 minutes of unintelligible banter that was displayed by the English debates.

stewie 10-18-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8963447)
It shouldn't be for anyone to tell you who you should vote for.
I'd suggest you go to each parties site and view their platforms. Think critically.
Start with the party you feel you'd be least likely to vote for.

Don't be lazy. Your vote is far more important than the 45 minutes of unintelligible banter that was displayed by the English debates.


My boss ended up printing out each parties platform and blanking out which party is promising what. I ended up liking ndp than the others.

For curiosity sake:
Currently liberals and cons are in the low 30's with ndp and greens at 18 and 8. With one last wave of votes to go what do you guys think that there's a slight possibility that ndp and greens would gain a few more points and be capable of forming a minority with one or two more points than the others?

I'm using their points frompoll tracker

Mr.HappySilp 10-18-2019 06:38 AM

Lib and NDP maybe. But not with greens coz they clearly will not work with lib(coz they purchase the pipeline). And BP will not work with Libs.
Cons might work with BP.

Best case lib get minority gov couldn't get other parties to work with them and do another election so we can vote majority gov kicking out the libs.

!LittleDragon 10-18-2019 09:01 AM

I don't think there's been a federal coalition government in 100 years? Generally the winning party is given a shot to govern.

Also, be careful with no confidence votes. Last time there was one, Harper's minority turned into a majority. You don't want to piss people off by having them vote too often as people want a stable government.

Ideally, I'd like a conservative minority. The cons can keep government spending in check while the libs keep the cons in check on social issues.

Manic! 10-18-2019 12:38 PM

Grown man follows teenager back to her hotel room.


Read the comments on the youtube page.

westopher 10-18-2019 08:03 PM

https://apple.news/AU_mq5c4zSNag7qZyMO8eIQ

Spoiler!



Seems kind of unreasonable for you to take issue with any of manics posts given this little tidbit.

JDął 10-18-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8963515)
Seems kind of unreasonable for you to take issue with any of manics posts given this little tidbit.

It was a direct troll back at him just to watch him freak out :lol

welfare 10-18-2019 09:38 PM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pro...nier-1.5327555

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Warren Kinsella's Daisy Group consulting firm was behind a social media campaign to put the People's Party of Canada on the defensive and keep leader Maxime Bernier out of the federal leaders' debates, according to documents provided to CBC News.

The documents outline the work done by several employees of Daisy on behalf of an unnamed client. A source with knowledge of the project told CBC News that client was the Conservative Party of Canada.

The plan was first reported Friday night by the Globe and Mail.


According to a source with knowledge of the project, who spoke to CBC News on condition they not be named, the objective of the plan, dubbed "Project Cactus," was to make the Conservative Party look more attractive to voters by highlighting PPC candidates' and supporters' xenophobic statements on social media.

The source added that Daisy employed four full-time staffers on Project Cactus at one time.

Kinsella is a lawyer, anti-racism activist and former Liberal strategist who has been a vocal critic of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May faced criticism from her own supporters in July when it was reported that Kinsella had been hired for her party. May told The Star that Kinsella's involvement, to set up a quick-response communications unit, was short-lived.

When asked Friday for comment about his work on the anti-Bernier project, Kinsella issued a short statement.

"We don't ever discuss client matters," Kinsella said in an email. "We are always proud, however, to be fighting racism and intolerance."


Simon Jefferies, a spokesperson for the Conservative Party of Canada, told CBC News, "We do not comment on vendors or suppliers we may or may not be using."

'Seek and destroy'
Documents seen by CBC News outline a plan to "seek and destroy" the PPC and prevent Bernier from getting into the leader's debates.

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The project was designed with three phases, according to the documents.

The first involved research and branding in March and April. The second was identified as a "launch phase" known as "seek and destroy," running from April 16th through to June 30, the start of the pre-writ period when new restrictions kicked in for third-party advertising.

The third phase, to run "July 1st 2019 to TBD" was called the "full steam ahead phase," where the team would "push Maxime Bernier and the PCC off their messages – forcing them, instead, to defend instances of hate speech and sympathy for racism."

Portions of a WhatsApp Chatroom set up by Daisy for Project Cactus and shared with CBC News show Daisy employees workshopping tweets critical of PPC candidates or supporters before asking Kinsella's approval. The tweets were then published on STAMP Out Hate, a Twitter account set up April 24, 2019 for an existing anti-racism nonprofit run by Daisy.


Part of the plan involved setting up a Twitter account related to an anti-hate initiative connected to Daisy, known as Standing Together Against Misogyny and Prejudice, or STAMP. (Twitter)
In the documents seen by CBC, drafted prior to the launch, STAMP is described as a screen for the project and its client.

"Daisy will create an arms-length organization that cannot be linked to the client or any participating organization. This organization will run a proxy war room public relations campaign that allows real Canadians to shine a light on the prejudice and hate that is associated with the PPC," a Daisy consultant writes.

Anti-PPC tweets dried up after June 29
Tweets for the STAMP Twitter account that were workshopped in the chatroom and later tweeted out by the account are still visible online.

The STAMP Out Hate account lambasted the PPC, its candidates and its supporters right up until June 29, a day before new election rules regarding third party advertisers came into effect. The account has since stopped attacking Bernier's party but has continued to tweet anti-racists messages.

There is no indication whether any further work was done after June 29.


An anti-PPC tweet sent out by the STAMP account on June 29, the final day before new third-party advertising rules kicked in. (Twitter)
The emails outlining the plan for Project Cactus say "Daisy will work to ensure this campaign is not named as a third party." Later, in the Whatsapp chat provided to CBC News, a Daisy Group employee asks when the date for third-party spending rules kick in.

Another employee replies, "June 30" and the first employee responds, "great thanks!"

CBC News reached out to multiple employees involved in the chat but either did not receive a response or were told they would not comment.

Manic! 10-18-2019 09:51 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHBw1HpU...pg&name=medium

Look at the spelling of scheer.

welfare 10-18-2019 10:00 PM

Bernier response:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHNMFrNX...jpg&name=large

Manic! 10-18-2019 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8963521)

So who is paying for those proud group ads?

Bouncing Bettys 10-18-2019 11:29 PM

^Proof Manic sucks a mean propaganda dick?

Hehe 10-18-2019 11:44 PM

I think it might be just me or whatever... but fuck... the conservatives are spending shitload of money of ads.

I see them everywhere: IG, FB, Google, (except YT cause YT premium rules!)... so on.. And this has been going on for a few weeks already.

They sure spent some money on me.... too bad I ain't gonna vote for them, not as long as Andrew is in power.

westopher 10-19-2019 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 8963517)
It was a direct troll back at him just to watch him freak out :lol

Fair enough. I wouldn’t have put it past a lot of people to believe it without looking into it.

Infiniti 10-19-2019 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8963528)
I think it might be just me or whatever... but fuck... the conservatives are spending shitload of money of ads.

I see them everywhere: IG, FB, Google, (except YT cause YT premium rules!)... so on.. And this has been going on for a few weeks already.

They sure spent some money on me.... too bad I ain't gonna vote for them, not as long as Andrew is in power.

The Cons had, by a considerable margin, the largest war chest for this election.

Manic! 10-19-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zedbra (Post 8963405)
Regading allowing doctors the right for them to choose to practice to their personal beliefs - what is wrong with doing such? We make many accommodations for other 'classes' or religions, that is the best part or Canada.

What if the doctor was Vegan and didn't want to work on patients who eat meat? Your beliefs should not effect other people. People have died because they where refused an abortion. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/27/w...-abortion.html

Lot's of people who work in fast food restaurants are from India and don't believe in eating beef or pork. Imagine pulling up to a drive thru and ordering a bacon cheese burger and the person on the other end saying we are only serving chicken or fish right now because of our cooks beliefs. I bet you would be pissed.

Bouncing Bettys 10-19-2019 02:43 PM

Interesting take Manic. Immigrants put aside their cultural/religous beliefs in order to perform their job and participate in Canadian society? What happened to multiculturalism and diversity?

!LittleDragon 10-19-2019 03:15 PM

Yup, he's trolling. Just a month ago, he was shitting on people for putting their beliefs aside for the job. Now he's saying it's okay.

Manic! 10-19-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8963567)
Yup, he's trolling. Just a month ago, he was shitting on people for putting their beliefs aside for the job. Now he's saying it's okay.

Just because they don't believe in eating beef or pork does not mean you can't. A Sikh will never push their religious believes on another.

My problem with scheer is he lies. He could say I don't believe in abortions but I believe it's up to a woman on what she wants to do with her body. But instead he tries to play both sides by saying it's settled law but allows his MP's to bring up new legislation that would reduce or ban access to abortions.

whitev70r 10-19-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8963572)
My problem with scheer is he lies. He could say I don't believe in abortions but I believe it's up to a woman on what she wants to do with her body. But instead he tries to play both sides by saying it's settled law but allows his MP's to bring up new legislation that would reduce or ban access to abortions.

They ALL lie ... get over it. Want me to start with JT?

Manic! 10-19-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8963573)
They ALL lie ... get over it. Want me to start with JT?

Start with Singh.

Mr.HappySilp 10-19-2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8963576)
Start with Singh.

How about saying he won't work with any gov who purchase a pipeline and the change his stance by saying he is willing to work with Libs (who purchase a pipeline) just to stop the Cons. After just a weekend change his mind and ask voters to vote for NDP completely forgetting what he said and try to back paddle when ask by a reporter.

westopher 10-19-2019 07:16 PM

I’m not going to go to that party tonight.
*wife tells me that it’s actually going to be really fun
Ok I’ll go.

Is that a lie? Or is that changing your mind?

Manic! 10-19-2019 08:45 PM

ED the sock is killing it!


Ed the Sock

@EdtheSock

Look at who owns #MontrealGazette which endorsed #Scheer - billion-dollar American hedge-fund. Their endorsement is further proof that #CPC is supported by big money foreign corps that don't give a crap about Canada or Canadians. #IVoteLiberal


Welfare you might be happy about this: https://mobile.twitter.com/kinsellawarren

Manic! 10-19-2019 11:43 PM

Really people want this guy running the country? the crowd seems half asleep.



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