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Where can I get up to date with the current election and who I should vote for?
I managed to find some information.
The NDP is making some great statement for their roles. What are your thoughts?
It shouldn't be for anyone to tell you who you should vote for.
I'd suggest you go to each parties site and view their platforms. Think critically.
Start with the party you feel you'd be least likely to vote for.
Don't be lazy. Your vote is far more important than the 45 minutes of unintelligible banter that was displayed by the English debates.
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It shouldn't be for anyone to tell you who you should vote for.
I'd suggest you go to each parties site and view their platforms. Think critically.
Start with the party you feel you'd be least likely to vote for.
Don't be lazy. Your vote is far more important than the 45 minutes of unintelligible banter that was displayed by the English debates.
My boss ended up printing out each parties platform and blanking out which party is promising what. I ended up liking ndp than the others.
For curiosity sake:
Currently liberals and cons are in the low 30's with ndp and greens at 18 and 8. With one last wave of votes to go what do you guys think that there's a slight possibility that ndp and greens would gain a few more points and be capable of forming a minority with one or two more points than the others?
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Lib and NDP maybe. But not with greens coz they clearly will not work with lib(coz they purchase the pipeline). And BP will not work with Libs.
Cons might work with BP.
Best case lib get minority gov couldn't get other parties to work with them and do another election so we can vote majority gov kicking out the libs.
I don't think there's been a federal coalition government in 100 years? Generally the winning party is given a shot to govern.
Also, be careful with no confidence votes. Last time there was one, Harper's minority turned into a majority. You don't want to piss people off by having them vote too often as people want a stable government.
Ideally, I'd like a conservative minority. The cons can keep government spending in check while the libs keep the cons in check on social issues.
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Despite widespread Ottawa’s efforts to prevent online disinformation from distorting the election campaign, a website based in Buffalo, N.Y., has been freely posting viral stories about Canadian politicians that have no apparent basis in fact — and there’s nothing the Canadian government can do to stop it.
Since the beginning of the year, The Buffalo Chronicle has published unsigned articles based on unnamed sources that allege backroom dealings at the highest levels of Canadian government. Several of the stories have been deemed false or unsupported by news organizations, including the Agence France Presse, which was contracted to debunk fake news by Facebook.
The website is run by Matthew Ricchiazzi, 33, an Ivy League graduate who has sought office in several New York state elections but never got his name on the ballot.
A BuzzFeed News/Toronto Star investigation has confirmed that Ricchiazzi once offered to publish positive or negative coverage of political candidates for a fee. He also placed ads on his website for individuals and businesses that had never heard of him.
Ricchiazzi would not agree to an interview before next week’s election.
However, in a reply to emailed questions, he wrote: “We report in good faith and would never knowingly publish a falsehood. We are confident in all of our reporting to date, and believe it reflects a fair articulation of information obtained from confidential sources.”
Among the apparently uncorroborated stories published by The Buffalo Chronicle is one alleging former Supreme Court justice Frank Iacobucci “insisted” that former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould be kicked out of cabinet. Another claims SNC-Lavalin’s former CEO and his wife fled Canada to avoid being arrested on bribery charges.
The website found real success with its report earlier this month that Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau paid more than $2 million to suppress a report about sexual misconduct.
Despite being debunked by the Star, Snopes and the Agence France Presse, that story and its followup generated close to 100,000 shares, likes, and reactions on Facebook.
While the Buffalo Chronicle has been publishing stories about politics in western New York since 2014, a shift to sensational Canadian content earlier this year has brought Ricchiazzi success on social media.
Eight of the Buffalo Chronicle’s 10 most popular articles on Facebook are about Canadian subjects and were published in the last eight months.
Collectively, they were liked, commented on and shared on Facebook more than 200,000 times by accounts with a total of 4.4 million fans.
Facebook has refused to take down the Buffalo Chronicle posts.
“Misinformation as a whole does not violate our community standards,” a Facebook spokesperson said.
“We don’t have a rule that says that everything you post needs to be true.”
This week, Ricchiazzi and the Buffalo Chronicle have had their Twitter accounts suspended.
However, the posts remain online.
Earlier this year, the Canadian government passed reforms to the Canada Elections Act that ban certain false statements about candidates during an election.
The office of the Commissioner of Canadian elections declined to address any specific examples of potential breaches of election law. Spokesperson Michelle Laliberté acknowledged, however, that “there may be limits to the enforcement action that could be taken against individuals residing outside of Canada.”
Michael Pal, a professor of law at the University of Ottawa, said it’s clear the law applies to foreigners, “but there’s not a lot that can be done.”
“We have to start facing up to what does it mean to have media from across the border violating the law,” he said. “How do we deal with that?”
Ricchiazzi did not answer a question about who wrote the articles about Canada. He told the Star and BuzzFeed News that “there were primarily three individuals who contributed to those reports.”
He said he kept their names off the stories because “many of the folks who write for me would lose their jobs immediately upon it being discovered.”
Ricchiazzi said his involvement in politics does not affect his ability to report news.
“I feel absolutely no need to maintain neutrality, and think that critical journalism with an honest perspective is indeed better journalism,” he said.
In the past, Ricchiazzi has offered to skew his coverage in exchange for cash.
In a 2010 email obtained by the Star and BuzzFeed News, Ricchiazzi asked if a local political candidate wanted to purchase content in The City Politic, another website he runs.
“Fees are as follows: positive articles about your candidacy are $200; negative articles about your opponents are $400; and an editorial endorsement is $300,” the email read.
Asked about the email, Ricchiazzi said: “The value proposition was not appropriately articulated (and wildly underpriced).”
Ricchiazzi has denied that these kinds of transactions continue, but on at least two occasions he has accepted payment from groups that support candidates and provided them with positive coverage.
Earlier this year, Ricchiazzi received $6,000 (U.S.) from a political committee formed to elect Peter A. Reese for Erie County executive, according to campaign finance disclosures. At the same time, The Buffalo Chronicle published three stories supportive of Reese’s legal battle to be added to the ballot. No disclosure of the payments is mentioned in the pieces.
“Peter Reese retained me as a consultant for a very short period of time,” Ricchiazzi said. “Those fees were not in exchange for advertising or content.
Last year, Ricchiazzi received $2,000 (U.S.) and the Buffalo Chronicle received $1,000 (U.S.) from a political committee supporting Joel Giambra’s run for governor of New York, according to election records.
The website posted at least five articles supporting Gambria’s candidacy, including one headlined: “Giambra, a proud moderate, seeks the GOP nomination with a bold plan.”
Ricchiazzi said the payments were “for consulting services rendered.”
Aside from its content, Ricchiazzi’s site appears to also mislead readers when it comes to its ads. While ads for a local pizzeria owner and retired New York State Supreme Court Judge Frank R. Bayger appeared on the Buffalo Chronicle, both said they had never heard of the site.
“Whoever is doing this, it could be harmful to me. I cherish my reputation. I’m a very active trial lawyer,” Bayger said.
Asked about the ads, Ricchiazzi said that he pays for the Buffalo Chronicle out of his own pocket and gives most of the ad space away for free.
“Some of the advertisements that appear may have been sold through third-party advertising sales agents,” he said. “Given that I don’t charge for ads anyways, I wasn’t too concerned with it.”
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Seems kind of unreasonable for you to take issue with any of manics posts given this little tidbit.
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Warren Kinsella's Daisy Group consulting firm was behind a social media campaign to put the People's Party of Canada on the defensive and keep leader Maxime Bernier out of the federal leaders' debates, according to documents provided to CBC News.
The documents outline the work done by several employees of Daisy on behalf of an unnamed client. A source with knowledge of the project told CBC News that client was the Conservative Party of Canada.
The plan was first reported Friday night by the Globe and Mail.
According to a source with knowledge of the project, who spoke to CBC News on condition they not be named, the objective of the plan, dubbed "Project Cactus," was to make the Conservative Party look more attractive to voters by highlighting PPC candidates' and supporters' xenophobic statements on social media.
The source added that Daisy employed four full-time staffers on Project Cactus at one time.
Kinsella is a lawyer, anti-racism activist and former Liberal strategist who has been a vocal critic of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau.
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May faced criticism from her own supporters in July when it was reported that Kinsella had been hired for her party. May told The Star that Kinsella's involvement, to set up a quick-response communications unit, was short-lived.
When asked Friday for comment about his work on the anti-Bernier project, Kinsella issued a short statement.
"We don't ever discuss client matters," Kinsella said in an email. "We are always proud, however, to be fighting racism and intolerance."
Simon Jefferies, a spokesperson for the Conservative Party of Canada, told CBC News, "We do not comment on vendors or suppliers we may or may not be using."
'Seek and destroy'
Documents seen by CBC News outline a plan to "seek and destroy" the PPC and prevent Bernier from getting into the leader's debates.
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The project was designed with three phases, according to the documents.
The first involved research and branding in March and April. The second was identified as a "launch phase" known as "seek and destroy," running from April 16th through to June 30, the start of the pre-writ period when new restrictions kicked in for third-party advertising.
The third phase, to run "July 1st 2019 to TBD" was called the "full steam ahead phase," where the team would "push Maxime Bernier and the PCC off their messages – forcing them, instead, to defend instances of hate speech and sympathy for racism."
Portions of a WhatsApp Chatroom set up by Daisy for Project Cactus and shared with CBC News show Daisy employees workshopping tweets critical of PPC candidates or supporters before asking Kinsella's approval. The tweets were then published on STAMP Out Hate, a Twitter account set up April 24, 2019 for an existing anti-racism nonprofit run by Daisy.
Part of the plan involved setting up a Twitter account related to an anti-hate initiative connected to Daisy, known as Standing Together Against Misogyny and Prejudice, or STAMP. (Twitter)
In the documents seen by CBC, drafted prior to the launch, STAMP is described as a screen for the project and its client.
"Daisy will create an arms-length organization that cannot be linked to the client or any participating organization. This organization will run a proxy war room public relations campaign that allows real Canadians to shine a light on the prejudice and hate that is associated with the PPC," a Daisy consultant writes.
Anti-PPC tweets dried up after June 29
Tweets for the STAMP Twitter account that were workshopped in the chatroom and later tweeted out by the account are still visible online.
The STAMP Out Hate account lambasted the PPC, its candidates and its supporters right up until June 29, a day before new election rules regarding third party advertisers came into effect. The account has since stopped attacking Bernier's party but has continued to tweet anti-racists messages.
There is no indication whether any further work was done after June 29.
An anti-PPC tweet sent out by the STAMP account on June 29, the final day before new third-party advertising rules kicked in. (Twitter)
The emails outlining the plan for Project Cactus say "Daisy will work to ensure this campaign is not named as a third party." Later, in the Whatsapp chat provided to CBC News, a Daisy Group employee asks when the date for third-party spending rules kick in.
Another employee replies, "June 30" and the first employee responds, "great thanks!"
CBC News reached out to multiple employees involved in the chat but either did not receive a response or were told they would not comment.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
Regading allowing doctors the right for them to choose to practice to their personal beliefs - what is wrong with doing such? We make many accommodations for other 'classes' or religions, that is the best part or Canada.
What if the doctor was Vegan and didn't want to work on patients who eat meat? Your beliefs should not effect other people. People have died because they where refused an abortion. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/27/w...-abortion.html
Lot's of people who work in fast food restaurants are from India and don't believe in eating beef or pork. Imagine pulling up to a drive thru and ordering a bacon cheese burger and the person on the other end saying we are only serving chicken or fish right now because of our cooks beliefs. I bet you would be pissed.
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Interesting take Manic. Immigrants put aside their cultural/religous beliefs in order to perform their job and participate in Canadian society? What happened to multiculturalism and diversity?
Yup, he's trolling. Just a month ago, he was shitting on people for putting their beliefs aside for the job. Now he's saying it's okay.
Just because they don't believe in eating beef or pork does not mean you can't. A Sikh will never push their religious believes on another.
My problem with scheer is he lies. He could say I don't believe in abortions but I believe it's up to a woman on what she wants to do with her body. But instead he tries to play both sides by saying it's settled law but allows his MP's to bring up new legislation that would reduce or ban access to abortions.
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My problem with scheer is he lies. He could say I don't believe in abortions but I believe it's up to a woman on what she wants to do with her body. But instead he tries to play both sides by saying it's settled law but allows his MP's to bring up new legislation that would reduce or ban access to abortions.
They ALL lie ... get over it. Want me to start with JT?
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Start with Singh.
How about saying he won't work with any gov who purchase a pipeline and the change his stance by saying he is willing to work with Libs (who purchase a pipeline) just to stop the Cons. After just a weekend change his mind and ask voters to vote for NDP completely forgetting what he said and try to back paddle when ask by a reporter.
Look at who owns #MontrealGazette which endorsed #Scheer - billion-dollar American hedge-fund. Their endorsement is further proof that #CPC is supported by big money foreign corps that don't give a crap about Canada or Canadians. #IVoteLiberal
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