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supafamous 03-30-2025 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9171150)
Nobody likes Juggles. If Eby became Federal NDP leader, watch the popularity numbers climb but I don't see that happening.

I'm a big fan of Eby because he's a technocrat who listens (enough) but I don't see him as inspiring enough to be a Federal NDP leader. I think he struggles even as BC NDP leader/Premier - he's totally smart enough and otherwise skilled enough except he doesn't have the body language or charisma of a leader.

I think a healthy John Horgan would have wiped the floor with Rustad in the last election with his blunt everyman personality whereas Eby was on the ropes so much he was throwing stuff at the wall (like killing the carbon tax) to squeak out a win. Eby's body language at news conferences is often of the "I'm just here so they don't fine me" variety - that sorta just him though.

Wab Kinew, Manitoba's NDP Premier, seems like he has the personality to lead the Federal NDP though but I'm far more skeptical about his policy chops.

supafamous 03-30-2025 08:24 AM

Fun Fact: Every Prime Minister since 1900 save one (Meighan) has a shitty Arts degree. None have even a business degree or a technical degree. Bunch of fucking losers who couldn't get jobs in their fields and had to become Prime Ministers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ademic_degrees

Manic! 03-30-2025 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171180)
Will Carney act on this?

Conservatives demand Carney fire candidate who said Tory should be turned in for Chinese bounty

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...ory-should-be/

As soon as the cons kick out the guy who said "Aboriginals need to learn the value of hard work more than then they need compensation for abuse suffered in residential schools"

Jason00S2000 03-30-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9171186)
I'm a big fan of Eby

Buddy... are you insane?

Have you seen how bad the fucking DTES has become? This is 100% on progressives. They are completely A-OK with drug gulags that eliminate the poor, misfits, and disabled.

Jason00S2000 03-30-2025 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171179)
Just LOL @ brahs trying to defend shitty arts degrees.

The odds of finding a job with a shitty arts degree in your field of study is extremely low according to StatsCan, obviously.

I have more respect for people going into the trades than someone pursuing a laughable arts degree.

If just getting rich is your only focus in life, then just being greedy is more valuable to that pursuit than any degree.

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9171183)
Yeah, Pierre Pollievre took 11 years to get a liberal arts degree in International Relations and couldn't find a job in his field so he ended up as a Conservative MP and normalised assholes like you who think getting an education is embarrassing.


Did I stutter? A BA is virtually useless. You have a less than 5% chance of finding a job that is relevant to your degree with a shitty BA degree. Maybe if you are lucky and go to grad school, it increases your chances of finding a job relevant to your degree like Carney did. More often than not though, you just dig the debt hole deeper and become over qualified for a job at Chuck E Cheese.

Just LOL @ BA degrees and those who defend it:) Do you have a gender studies degree or something?

Hondaracer 03-30-2025 10:56 AM

The budget will balance itself - an English major

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9171210)
The budget will balance itself - an English major

It's a Vibecession - another BA pleb

mikemhg 03-30-2025 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9171143)
You know some shitty people then. All the teachers I know went into teaching because they wanted to be a teacher.

I think this is actually an interesting character study.

Why is it the resident conservatives here have such a cynical view about undertaking a career to help the public or their community?

This is is fundamentally how these people think, everything in their head is managed by greed, by money, the idea of wanting to do something for the better good is unheard of in their mindsets. They lack a true moral compass, they see the world as merely transactional, eat or be eaten.

Once you start to see that, you understand American politics and the type of people who are ardent Republican supporters.

mikemhg 03-30-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171179)
Just LOL @ brahs trying to defend shitty arts degrees.

The odds of finding a job with a shitty arts degree in your field of study is extremely low according to StatsCan, obviously.

I have more respect for people going into the trades than someone pursuing a laughable arts degree.

Fuck man, you're insufferable.

Hondaracer 03-30-2025 11:28 AM

I don’t think it has anything to do with that view, it’s just the reality of the situation these days.

Kids blowing vape clouds and on their phones non-stop it’s a direct comparison to nursing. A shittier and shittier profession with fewer and fewer people getting into it for the “right” reasons.

Compared to 20 years ago, how many people do you think are becoming teachers now to enact change in their community and better lives than today? Half as many?

In another 20 years from now this concept you guys are harping on won’t even exist.


Jason00S2000 03-30-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9171176)

Fix the education system,

How about:

1. Elementary school education is completely revamped. No more 30 kids to a classroom learning all of the same stuff from a single teacher.

1a. Children should spend Elementary school studying a wide range of topics and a combination of human and AI teachers should evaluate the kid's primary and secondary strengths, passions, weaknesses, and special needs. Some kids will learn better outdoors, some are more physical, some are better at spatial tasks, hand-eye coordinaton, a few are poets, dreamers, and many are decent at nearly everything but excel at nothing. Like the "vaccine", a blanket approach to everyone isn't the best case scenario, at all.

2. High school is completely revamped. No more studying mostly the same shit as everyone else all day. Change it so that people who showed an aptitude for things in elementary school are given the choices to focus on what they're good at, the learning environments they excel at, and, in some cases, should be able to start working in like grade 10. An education should be tailored to the specific needs of the student, the student shouldn't have to conform to the rigid and fucking boring structure of being forced to learn the same way and take the same courses as everyone else.

Why wasn't the McBadge saved and used as an educational tool for teachers to show how to fabricate interior space, patch a boat hull, and keep the thing floating and teaching students marine law, maintenance, and weatherproofing? Certainly there could have been uses for that iconic vessel.

Teachers Unions will fight this tooth and nail, because the current system is woke as fuck and teachers drool over having more power over kids and being able to pump their heads full of woke nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9171176)
Fix the healthcare system

1. Imagine instead of waiting in a massive line for a doctor, you could visit an AI-powered robot that was open 24/7 and instantly knew your entire medical history. The office would have every tool needed to diagnose you and the AI would be able to access a live human at any moment if needed. These facilities, open 24/7, would be placed in between a walk-in clinic and a hospital.

1a. Imagine the healthcare outcomes if you could, if you choose, use your Apple watch health data, your diet, exercise info, profession, even your self-reported stress and mental health levels, to access various services in order to improve your quality of life. Instead of construction workers burning out doing 10+ 12 hour days and then crashing completely, the AI doctor itself could contact your workplace and request days off in advance, noting your physical and mental health thresholds have been surpassed. As someone who worked in health and safety for only a year, I can tell you flat out that workers often say nothing about burnout until they're completely fucked and cannot even get out of bed a few hours before a shift.

1b. AI and robots need to become a bigger part of our lives, but doctors and the healthcare industry make so much money, they, too, will fight tooth and nail to keep healthcare expensive, scarce, and keeping them driving new Mercedes. My own mother-in-law is a specialist doctor, and, trust me, that bitch is 100% about the money and not about caring for people. But hey, she's the multi-millionaire and I'm the guy who can't afford to eat today.

2. During COVID, they found numerous interesting things, like vitamin D levels in people who died from COVID were found to be low, now, of course, did you hear anything from the government during COVID about vitamin D supplements? No. Chances are, because vitamin D is cheap. They could have sent people out, door-to-door, leaving vitamin D and other supplements for everyone to take. They don't do this because nobody is going to profit from it.

2a. Diet and exercise are so important to stay healthy, so why are all of the cheapest and most accessible foods the least healthy? Because of things like:

Lipitor, Pfizer's cholesterol-lowering medication introduced in 1997, held the record for the highest cumulative sales for many years. By 2017, Lipitor had generated approximately $150.1 billion in revenue.

You'll never hear any politician talk about taking drastically different approaches to our current systems, because they are all paid to simply placate the voters and keep the system marching on as usual.

It would take a visionary and a true leader to shake Canada out of its torpor, but when you have globalist banker elites like Carney, life-long puppets like Little PP, and your artists like the Jason Bryans of this world unable to even feed themselves or speak online, you'll simply get more of the same old, same old, with zero change on the horizon because your entire society is captured by the woke-fueled, Liberal orthodoxy.

So, you can basically just focus on making more money and being greedy for an easy life, or you can vote red or vote blue and then stomp and cry when things continue to get worse. Insulating yourself with money is the only solution outside of making art and hoping to have an effect on culture. But the gatekeepers will make sure nobody even hears you.

Good luck, elbows up! :lol :lol :lol

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9171213)
I think this is actually an interesting character study.

Why is it the resident conservatives here have such a cynical view about undertaking a career to help the public or their community?

This is is fundamentally how these people think, everything in their head is managed by greed, by money, the idea of wanting to do something for the better good is unheard of in their mindsets. They lack a true moral compass, they see the world as merely transactional, eat or be eaten.

Once you start to see that, you understand American politics and the type of people who are ardent Republican supporters.

The quality of teachers and the schooling here is so subpar, especially compared to China.

严师出高徒

GS8 03-30-2025 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9171186)
I'm a big fan of Eby because he's a technocrat who listens (enough) but I don't see him as inspiring enough to be a Federal NDP leader. I think he struggles even as BC NDP leader/Premier - he's totally smart enough and otherwise skilled enough except he doesn't have the body language or charisma of a leader.

Considering he's 6'7", I wouldn't be surprised if he reserves his body language and takes a pensive approach, whereas chest pumping might make him look like a pro wrestler :lol

With the Federal NDPs subterranean popularity, I'd say take any risks you can on a new leader at this point. Angry Sailor Mulcair & Creatine Cretin Singh weren't those answers.

I got to participate in a sit-down interview with Jack Layton back in 2010. He had answers for everything. No rhetoric. All meat, no fat. The NPD's torch hasn't be relit since he died.

Jason00S2000 03-30-2025 12:17 PM

The government is 100% in support of the Palestine protests and the shit-eating pigs have their orders to protect the march.


underscore 03-30-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171179)
I have more respect for people going into the trades than someone pursuing a laughable arts degree.

So you don't respect tradespeople, anyone with a BA, or teachers. Why should anyone give two shits about your opinion?

supafamous 03-30-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9171221)
Considering he's 6'7", I wouldn't be surprised if he reserves his body language and takes a pensive approach, whereas chest pumping might make him look like a pro wrestler :lol

I can't believe I didn't know he was 6'7". I had some inkling he was tall but never paid any attention to it. I did a little Googling and it seems like the Cons tried to turn his height into a story due to a podium that was built to accommodate him and shorter members of his team: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...m-bc-1.6857421

unit 03-30-2025 01:21 PM

Imagine the world with people only doing jobs that V… finds respectable. You wouldnt have a functioning society anywhere.

supafamous 03-30-2025 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171208)
Did I stutter? A BA is virtually useless. You have a less than 5% chance of finding a job that is relevant to your degree with a shitty BA degree. Maybe if you are lucky and go to grad school, it increases your chances of finding a job relevant to your degree like Carney did. More often than not though, you just dig the debt hole deeper and become over qualified for a job at Chuck E Cheese.

Arts degrees are so useless that someone who gets one earns about 30-35% more money over their careers than a high school grad regardless of the actual field of work they do.

The pursuit of education is, in nearly all cases, a good thing. The person pursuing it ends up making money and society benefits from having a more capable individual contributing to society. (They also tend to become less conservative.) Insulting the pursuit of education is childish.

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171208)
Just LOL @ BA degrees and those who defend it:) Do you have a gender studies degree or something?

And if I did? In addition to being a general asshole are you also a casual misogynist? Basically the best and brightest that the Conservative Party can come up with when it comes to volunteers? Sounds like you should be a candidate.

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9171229)
So you don't respect tradespeople, anyone with a BA, or teachers. Why should anyone give two shits about your opinion?

Perhaps you should read with more precision because my comment implied I respect the excellent tradespeople throughout Canada far more than someone with a shitty arts degree.

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9171232)
Arts degrees are so useless that someone who gets one earns about 30-35% more money over their careers than a high school grad regardless of the actual field of work they do.

The pursuit of education is, in nearly all cases, a good thing. The person pursuing it ends up making money and society benefits from having a more capable individual contributing to society. (They also tend to become less conservative.) Insulting the pursuit of education is childish.

Hmmm, 30-35% more than someone without a high school education.....B.C. min wage is $17.40. Wow, so an extra $5 more per hour? lmfao very impressive. When I was in University, my co-op was paying $35/hr. Just LOL if you are not wagemaxxing.

Honestly they would be better off being in the trades rather than going to University for the sake of being in University with a questionable career path. Especially if you are in a program that doesn't offer co-op. If they were in the trades, they would make far more money. I will always advocate for trades over the albatross of a BA degree.


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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9171232)
And if I did? In addition to being a general asshole are you also a casual misogynist? Basically the best and brightest that the Conservative Party can come up with when it comes to volunteers? Sounds like you should be a candidate.

Maybe if you paid a little more attention in high school, you could have been admitted to a STEM program.

Most of these BA programs tend to be pure cash grabs. It is questionable if you actually learn something of value in these programs that makes you remotely employable. They are often the easiest programs to get into and they are not remotely competitive. These degrees are so saturated and useless. Sorry pal

underscore 03-30-2025 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171236)
Perhaps you should read with more precision because my comment implied I respect the excellent tradespeople throughout Canada far more than someone with a shitty arts degree.

You stated you respected them more, not how much. When normal people pick something out of the blue to compare to, they choose things that are close together because you imply proximity.

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9171239)
You stated you respected them more, not how much. When normal people pick something out of the blue to compare to, they choose things that are close together because you imply proximity.

I will make it clear for you, bromigo:

God Tier: Mathematics, Comp Sci, Engineering, Medicine, Law, MBA
Top Tier: Business degree, Trades, Geo Sciences, Pharmacy
Mid Tier: Biology, Chemistry
Low Tier: All bullshit BA degrees:failed:
Shit Tier: Women's Studies, English, Philosophy, Communications, Relegion, etc etcBrokeBack

Don't have a conniption fit

westopher 03-30-2025 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9171237)
Hmmm, 30-35% more than someone without a high school education.....B.C. min wage is $17.40. Wow, so an extra $5 more per hour? lmfao very impressive. When I was in University, my co-op was paying $35/hr. Just LOL if you are not wagemaxxing.

Honestly they would be better off being in the trades rather than going to University for the sake of being in University with a questionable career path. Especially if you are in a program that doesn't offer co-op. If they were in the trades, they would make far more money. I will always advocate for trades over the albatross of a BA degree.



Maybe if you paid a little more attention in high school, you could have been admitted to a STEM program.

Most of these BA programs tend to be pure cash grabs. It is questionable if you actually learn something of value in these programs that makes you remotely employable. They are often the easiest programs to get into and they are not remotely competitive. These degrees are so saturated and useless. Sorry pal

High school grad isn't what we'd call someone without a high school education. You are really throwing out the reading comprehension insults for someone that has that much difficulty themselves.

VRYALT3R3D 03-30-2025 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9171242)
High school grad isn't what we'd call someone without a high school education. You are really throwing out the reading comprehension insults for someone that has that much difficulty themselves.

Nice try pal.

BA degrees are still shit tier degrees.


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