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Old 04-01-2025, 04:04 PM   #10626
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To really make our society safer from the court system's perspective, we need to make our court system functional again because right now, it is functioning rather poorly at best.
OK. How does voting liberal achieve this if they didn't do anything until now?

carney's book and website doesn't even mention it.
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“PP’s legislation will do nothing”

Liberals - crickets…

How many drug offences does a place like Singapore have?

It’s pretty obvious, if there are substantial consequences to your actions, you’ll double think those actions.

I just posted the guy I grew up with, 30+ convictions, beats up a cop, then chokes another one, beats the fuck out of a nurse, and he’s been released

And he was ON BAIL while that happened.

There’s the story here:

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/h...-life-10454706

19 year old on bail with previous weapon offences, carrying a knife, violating is parole, stabs a 15 year old, ruins his and his families life. And the guy is smirking and “saluting” his friends in his sentencing hearing.

Nah bro, nothin wrong with sentencing in this country.

Everything is broken about the system. Sentencing is a huge part of it

Check this out

https://www.burnabynow.com/highlight...layed-10075757

The guy (crazy once again numerous charges prior to the murder, weird!) that murdered constable Yang in Burnaby has now been awaiting trial for over 1200 days and there are concerns the case will lapse..

For first degree murder if a fucking RCMP officer

If they can’t get this case through, it goes to show how broken this system is as a whole.
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It seems like libs are too comfortable doing nothing, they only care about staying in power.
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You did the whole comparing other countries thing before Honda.

You wouldn’t be able to do half the shit you do on a daily basis there either. You want full draconian your life is gonna change bigtime. You think you can smoke your weed or drive a car in Singapore?

If you want to cherry pick all the singular things you like about another society you better get started on making your own country custom tailored to your liking.
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We didn’t have to spend a billion dollars buying back rocket launchers and anti-tank rifles.

If you are caught with an illegal gun, you’re going to jail. Period.

Gun violence would fall off a cliff, and there’d be no need for a decades long legislation. Not one legal gun owner would oppose that. Yet we spent a decade and a billion dollars attempting to buy back guns no one has.

This endless cycle of Canada has a problem “oh it’s more complicated than that” argument is over. I’m done with it. I’m not admitting defeat or saying anyone is right or wrong but I don’t care to come here and argue any longer so I’m going to try and not.. if that’s possible.

If we’ve got a thousand idiots in govt. that can’t figure out social aspects of society, we’re done. Shit getting much worse is the most likely outcome.
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Well.. I think I’ve outlined in numerous times before but the incumbent govt. has proven time and time again, they are not going to fix those issues either.

So at the very least, it’s worth a shot to try something new, because things have only gotten worse this way.

There is no will to fix this problem.
Even if there is a will (and I don't actually think there's that much of a will) it simply doesn't rank high enough in any party's priority list to effect the kind of change you feel needs to happen.

Every party will fail at this in your eyes but it's because it's lower priority for them (and most of the rest of us) than it is to you. You want it to be number one and it's not top 5 for any of the parties (maybe #5 for the Cons?) so the problem to solve isn't which party to vote for but it's either you find ways to raise that priority with the parties/society (like I have little belief it should be a top 5 priority) or you revisit whether your perspective is actually accurate or realistic.

As Traum points out, the courts are the bottleneck right now and as I and others have noted solving it with housing, treatment etc is a huge expense and even if it's ultimately the best solution (more productive workers, less cost to treat than to incarcerate) it'll still cost tonnes of money. None of the parties are ready to put the resources required to solve it and society doesn't care enough to want them to solve it.

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It’s pretty obvious, if there are substantial consequences to your actions, you’ll double think those actions.
Well, when it comes to crime, Singapore is practically an autocratic state and their citizens accept it b/c of the general culture and political system - it's not exactly a state that supports free speech like a Western nation or general rights so a very harsh criminal system fits within their culture. It would absolutely not fit into Canadian society (or most Western worlds).
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We didn’t have to spend a billion dollars buying back rocket launchers and anti-tank rifles.

If you are caught with an illegal gun, you’re going to jail. Period.

Gun violence would fall off a cliff, and there’d be no need for a decades long legislation. Not one legal gun owner would oppose that. Yet we spent a decade and a billion dollars attempting to buy back guns no one has.

This endless cycle of Canada has a problem “oh it’s more complicated than that” argument is over. I’m done with it. I’m not admitting defeat or saying anyone is right or wrong but I don’t care to come here and argue any longer so I’m going to try and not.. if that’s possible.

If we’ve got a thousand idiots in govt. that can’t figure out social aspects of society, we’re done. Shit getting much worse is the most likely outcome.

Exactly, if you are caught driving with a restricted firearm unlocked in the city you volunteer to be sent to mars on starship. Nobody is hunting deer in Brampton or Surrey at 3am.
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OK. How does voting liberal achieve this if they didn't do anything until now?

carney's book and website doesn't even mention it.
You are correct that on this portfolio, voting Liberals doesn't change anything. What I wrote in that previous post applies to the current situation we are facing, meaning the situation is entirely caused by the Turdeau Liberals. In fact, the current shortage of working federal judges is caused by the Turdeau Liberals. There is no shortage of qualified individuals who can be federal judges, and have applied to become federal judges. But the application needs to be reviewed / approved by the Minister of Justice. I forgot who the person was in Turd's cabinet, but he/she had been extremely slow in approving those applications.

All I was saying in my last post is -- PeePee's campaign promise on having stiffer sentences is useless in actually reducing crime. He is proposing the campaign promise to make it look like he is doing something when it is really still nothing.

Is that better than the Liberals not saying anything on the subject at all? I wouldn't say so. One has a bad and completely useless plan. The other has no plan. Both are equally bad.
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and another one. This makes 4 for the cons. It would have been better if it was after the 9th.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...orth-1.7500698

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Lmao Mitch McConnell of all people voted against the Canadian tariffs. I wonder which Canadian company is greasing his palms
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The senate bill vote is just performative. There's no way that it gets passed in the House nor would Trump sign it into law when it gets to his desk.
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Lmao Mitch McConnell of all people voted against the Canadian tariffs. I wonder which Canadian company is greasing his palms
He's doing it because this could put the Republicans out of power for decades.

Same thing happened to them in the 30's, when they went tariff crazy (and yeah you know what else happened in the 30's)
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Gas dropped down to as low as $1.26'ish per litre the other day at Costco. It was so chaotic, I'm pretty sure it would serve as the first battlefield for WW3.
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$1.26 !! One of the few benefits of being in Ontario ... ONrdukes!
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I paid 126.99 today at costco this morning!!!! It's slowly creeping up now.
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Carney's press conference today about Canada's response. Every time I see him speak in public I'm more impressed at his depth of knowledge and understanding of the world and by his calm approach. No chest puffing but pointed in his language in what we will do.

Haters will say that it's all talk and there's nothing behind his words but the resume says it's not.
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The one thing I don't like is how they have coached him to speak much.... much..........more......slowly.

I know they all do it, but holy shit... at times he has the same cadence that Trudeau developed and it's irritating as fuck.
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Carney's press conference today about Canada's response. Every time I see him speak in public I'm more impressed at his depth of knowledge and understanding of the world and by his calm approach. No chest puffing but pointed in his language in what we will do.

Haters will say that it's all talk and there's nothing behind his words but the resume says it's not.
Who cares about his words. His actions matter.
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