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JDMDreams 04-04-2025 08:50 AM

But will he get security clearance :troll::joy:

pastarocket 04-04-2025 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9171963)
Vote Honda for leader of the Cons. He is well-researched, well informed, and one with creative ideas for Cons economics and ideology.

Honda, have you seriously thought about a career in politics? You have a passion for politics based on your numerous posts on this thread. Put your ideas into practice to try to make changes in the community?

Please, change your avatar! Turd is not the PM anymore! LUL

Traum 04-04-2025 09:17 AM

Honda, are you really telling me that the leader of a large corporation / institution doesn't make much of a difference if a sizable amount of the middle managers and front end grunts are the same?

Just look at Apple between Steve Jobs and Tim Cook. I am not saying Tim Cook is unsuccessful, but the Steve Jobs Apple and the Tim Cook Apple are pretty different.

If the bureaucracy below the CEO has gotten to the point where the company is no longer functional, then yeah, no person at the top can turn the ship around. But I don't think we are quite that disfunctional yet.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9171952)
The majority of people in the liberal party are the same ones responsible for failures of this regime. They have failed on major issues during their time in office. These are the same people returning.


Hondaracer 04-04-2025 09:27 AM

So on one hand, people here have spent years arguing Trudeau isn’t the one to blame, Trudeau isn’t behind the policies, he is just a figure head, etc. etc. endlessly this discussion has been had. The point has been made time and time again that the leader isn’t the one making the decisions and policies and legislation is brought through other MP’s and joint committees.

But now.. one guy has changed. He’s obviously a more competent individual than Trudeau, but overwhelmingly the people behind him, who a lot of you have said previously are the ones who make the decisions, are all the same.

I think it’s extremely optimistic, and frankly bordering on delusional to think this one guy has the power and capability of turning around this country/party based on his own intellect and influence while the vast majority of people surrounding him are the exact same characters who got us where we are today.

In reference to your leader of a large corporation comparison, let’s look at it a different way. If you bought anything, a TV, a car, a vacuum cleaner, and two times in a row, they turned out to be lemons. Would you go and buy a third one? Almost certainly not.

JDMDreams 04-04-2025 09:42 AM

Canada lost 33,000 jobs in March as unemployment rate rose slightly to 6.7%

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/can...2025-1.7501875

FeelsBadMan

RevYouUp 04-04-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9169609)
Snowflakes can't take a joke

https://globalnews.ca/news/11114500/...vancouver/amp/

Funny joke eh

unit 04-04-2025 10:07 AM

are you trying to say that anybody here would think that's an ok thing to do?

sonick 04-04-2025 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RevYouUp (Post 9171987)

By this logic anybody who voted for Trump is also as bad as the Proud Boys or J6 rioters.

Cry more.

westopher 04-04-2025 10:35 AM

I've heard of rocks being thrown through windshields from overpasses more than a few years before Tesla existed. I don't think this is as much of a political statement as people might want it to be.
Could be.

JDMDreams 04-04-2025 10:47 AM

Thanks for supporting my yilong shares by helping them sell replacement cars or replacement parts:joy::troll:

Manic! 04-04-2025 02:47 PM

Another one. This makes 5 so far. I got to put the over under at 12.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...-cpc-1.7502630

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The Conservative Party of Canada has dropped a Quebec candidate after he harshly criticized Liberal candidate and Polytechnique shooting survivor Nathalie Provost online.

CivicBlues 04-04-2025 03:05 PM

yeesh, it's almost as if the people most "passionate" about politics online should be the ones to stay far far away from an actual career in politics.

*Ahem*

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9171963)
Vote Honda for leader of the Cons. He is well-researched, well informed, and one with creative ideas for Cons economics and ideology.


Hondaracer 04-04-2025 05:30 PM

I’m not so delusional to think I could actually make a difference :lol

tegra7 04-05-2025 02:30 PM

Parliament Hill is under lockdown.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7503089

westopher 04-05-2025 02:44 PM

Guy didn't get the memo parliament hill was prorogued. Makes sense though because people this angry about politics that are as inconsequential as Canadas (not to say they don't matter, but we don't have fascism or threat to life with any political movements or acting governments) are usually because they understand absolutely nothing about it.

whitev70r 04-05-2025 04:46 PM

Voted today for municipal byelection ... lines were somewhat long, not that bad but workers say it was steady all day. I wonder if the turnout means that folks are NOT happy with status quo and want to vote 2 councillors in there that is NOT ABC.

supafamous 04-05-2025 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9172139)
Voted today for municipal byelection ... lines were somewhat long, not that bad but workers say it was steady all day. I wonder if the turnout means that folks are NOT happy with status quo and want to vote 2 councillors in there that is NOT ABC.

City staff apparently recommended that election staffing was only a quarter a normal election so it could be an error on city staff or turnout was actually better than expected.

BIC_BAWS 04-05-2025 11:40 PM

Is that what all the line ups by a gov looking building on kingsway was all about

Manic! 04-06-2025 12:50 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/fabulavanco.../3lm4trcj5ss2p

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heard from three sources earlier this evening that Mayor Ken Sim basically conceded the two open seats were lost to ABC in communications with party insiders.
April 5, 2025 at 11:43 PM
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SkinnyPupp 04-06-2025 02:13 AM

So is Vancouver going down the toilet or what?

GLOW 04-06-2025 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9172139)
Voted today for municipal byelection ... lines were somewhat long, not that bad but workers say it was steady all day. I wonder if the turnout means that folks are NOT happy with status quo and want to vote 2 councillors in there that is NOT ABC.

I received no notifications on this, is this only for certain ridings?

whitev70r 04-06-2025 07:34 AM

It was pretty low key, I got a card in the mail to remind me, saw some mention of it the news. Yah ... low budget but it looks like initial results is a repudiation of Sims. No ABC candidate won and 2 progressive (center) candidates Orr and Muloney will win.

Doesn't really matter in the bigger picture, ABC and Sims still have majority on council. But a symbolic message.

JDMDreams 04-06-2025 08:21 AM

What's wrong with abc? Vancouver seems like they are doing ok, less going broke and they are stepping up fixing Hastings

GLOW 04-06-2025 08:26 AM

I wouldn’t call it fixing, disrupting may be a more accurate word, it may look cleaner, wouldn’t call it improved or better, but that is a very complex problem

supafamous 04-06-2025 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9172186)
What's wrong with abc? Vancouver seems like they are doing ok, less going broke and they are stepping up fixing Hastings

There's the unserious stuff Ken/ABC has done and then the stupid stuff he's tried to do ranging from small but declarative things like wearing white sneakers and a puffy jacket to a Remembrance Day ceremony to building a private gym next to his office to hanging out with crypto bros to trying to kill the park board undemocratically (it seemed like he didn't actually know how to do it but went ahead with trying anyways - just plain stupid) to killing the Stanley Park bike lane (it relieved virtually no congestion and cost a lot of money) to not doing anything about the housing crisis to killing living wage requirements for city workers to giving Chip Wilson a holiday (fucking Chip??) to suspending the work of the integrity commissioner (b/c they were investigating him and ABC) to withholding (and lying) about crime rates (and collaborating with the cops to do it) to frequent/chronic absenteeism at council meetings (and his other board/advisor responsibilities).

For city gov't none of this rises to criminal levels but the list of small and medium sized bad behaviour is pretty long. Ken Sim is not serious about running Vancouver, he's serious about promoting himself and making it about himself. Considering he's got a majority on council he's easily the worst mayor of the last 45 years by a mile for how little he's done. The only one that's close to him in low performance has been Kennedy Stewart but at least he's got the excuse of a fractured council that he was not aligned with.

Off the record I've heard through word of mouth from city staff who describe him as unprofessional, unprepared, and uninterested in running the city - it's hearsay but it matches all the public behaviour. Folks like Stewart, Robertson etc all acted with integrity and seriousness.

Ken Sim said he was about the vibes when he was running and that's exactly what he's done. He's done nothing useful but be a lot of vibes.

Decent Reddit thread about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/c...his_two_years/


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