There is way more of the cons are scary boogey men because feelings are going to be hurt VS maybe there is a better option out there than re-treading the same sacks of shit we’ve had a decade of because it’s a more comfortable option.

Champagne, Freeland, etc. those people are -done- they fucked us. If you continue to support people like this frankly, you’re a fool.

I gotta vote early cuz I’m going to be in England on the regular voting day. Hope everyone else gets out to do it too!

Good luck getting rid of Jenny Honda haha one can only hope

At a very high level, I can see the logic of wanting to vote for someone who claims he will bring change to Canada and not keep the status quo. And in some regard, PeePee appears to offer that. I can also see Honda's legitimate skepticism on how a Carney gov would largely continue to have key Turdeau appointees to server in key positions (ministers). I can even see and acknowledge that Carney has continued to fail in providing a good, strong answer to his Brookfield tax heaven questions -- I have no doubts that what he did in Brookfield is entirely legal. I even think that as the vice chair of Brookfield, his decision to put the investment funds in Bermuda is entirely sensible. At the same time, I also agree that the Bermuda thing does not make Carney look good, and it raises the question of whose interest Carney will serve should he become PM.

And this last point is very concerning. When you couple it together with how there'll be a large carryover of Turdeau loyalists as ministers, it is not at all difficult to be concerned that the status quo and rot will continue to happen.

That said, I would also say PeePee is far from being an ideal, or even just promising candidate. I find a lot of his policies to be populist -- they seem to address the superficial concerns, but become questionable as soon as you delve deeper into their actual effectiveness. Take his latest 3-strike rule. It is definitely a populist policy that would work well at first glance. But policies have a lot of nauances in them, and he is intentionally dumbing it down to appeal to his populist supporters.

His open embracement of all 6 demands from Big Oil Alberta is also deeply troubling to me. Yes, the World has already past the point of no return on climate change, but adding even more fuel to the fire when we should be changing course as much as we can is just dumb.

What I am trying to say is -- as time goes on, and the veneer of a fresh promsing candidate wears off, I acknowledge that Carney will not be the idealistic leader that we hope for. Anyone who thinks Carney will dramatically turn the Canadian ship around is deluding himself. That said, between Carney and PeePee's fault, I still think Carney is the more capable and viable candidate, esp in the face of dealing with a chaotic Trump. The economic outlook for the next 4 years are not going to look good regardless of who becomes PM, and both Carney and PeePee are gonna blame Trump for it. But in the end, I believe a Carney-led Liberals will take us to a better place than a PeePee-led Conservatives.

In a Carney-led gov, we'll need to keep an eye out for gravy train favours to rich corps and such. And we'll need to keep an eye out for Chinese influence -- there has been some new allegations of how Communist China is flexing its influence to prop up Carney thru their typical channels, and how another Liberal candidate has close ties with PLA.

You must have read it well given you can’t articulate a single point

This reads like pot calling the kettle black. I really don't see how what you've listed is any different than what you're asking Westopher to list. Like what are these virtue signalling climate change policies? And what are the (obvious) drawbacks to their approach to crime, bail, and resource legislation (all of which people have pointed out are unrealistic and don't actually address the problem).

You're being a hypocrite here.

Eliminating gun buyback isn't some in depth point that goes further than eliminating interprovincial trade barriers. I truly don't understand how you think you've got some extra grasp here.
Congrats though I guess.

Just as you say the Liberals climate initiatives are nothing more than virtue signaling, I also find PeePee's so-called crime and bail reform to be little more than virtue signaling as well. I think I have already mentioned before in the thread that the real issue that needs to be fixed first is properly funding the judicial branch and our correctional facilities. Once the ball is rolling on that front, then there needs to be proper bail reform instead of just some 3-strikes-and-you're-out sentencing.

I forgot to mention in my last post that there is some skepticism on whether there are actually any new or untapped demand for Canadian LNG and petroleum products. PeePee has claimed more than a few times that as part of his climate change policy, he wants to sell Canadian LNG to India and other places in the world to replace dirty coal. But there are also signs that these international energy demands actually want to skip LNG altogether and jump directly from coal to greener alternatives like solar and wind because at this point in time, solar is actually the cheapest method of energy generation.

The difference is.. I actually listed something? lol

https://x.com/jasjohalbc/status/1910...BXGGzdZwUeAfbw

Brutal takedown by Doug Ford’s campaign manager on how PP and the Cons have blown a 25 point lead. Dude is pissed. No surprise that Ford and team are sitting this out.

Nardwuar is one of the best music journalists in the world.

His video with Carney has over 85k views in 13 hours

PP's video at a private members race track for the one percent has 35K views is 48 hours.

pp is so out of touch with Canadians.

Carney also spend zero dollars on the video. I wonder how much pp spent.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...nior-1.7506836

The Vancouver Police Department Homicide Unit is investigating the death of a 92-year-old Chinatown senior who died after being assaulted in an alley.


WTF I hope they get hanged.

What proportion of viewers are Canadians? Since that is unknown, it's pointless to make comparisons

Well Jagmeets video has only got 27k views and it was released at the same time. Carneys now has over 111K views. Right now only bout 30% of the views have to be Canadian to beat PP's video and that number is only going to get lower.

LOL, I just finished watching the Carney/Nardwuar video and caught the bit about the hip flip game where Chretien, Martin, and Justin all did it but Harper said no and his security hauled Nardwuar away. Fits the profile and stereotype of Cons.

I mean, in Harper’s defence he was physically unable to play such a game. This is an actual photo of him ready for bedtime going wild (by his standards) in a green onesie:

https://i.imgur.com/IGjm8ol.jpeg

The other guy who beat the other elderly person in China town got off with no charges as well. 93 year old broke his hip from being pushed by a career criminal, charges stayed heheh

https://globalnews.ca/news/11117086/...r-assault/amp/

Better the elderly than us.

senior lives matter



i hope they do, i every day i get closer and closer to being in that demographic :alone:

It’s amazing that in the vast majority of the states, if you were drinking and driving and killed someone, with zero previous record and regardless of circumstances you’d get 10-20 years, no question. Obviously a totally heinous, preventable crime but otherwise “decent” people made one mistake and they are in prison for a decade.

In Canada, you can have 50 serious charges, a career criminal, be charged with second degree murder of vulnerable, innocent, people, and you could bet your life you will spend less than 5 years incarcerated. You destroyed a family, you committed the worst crime imaginable, and you are locked away for less than 10% of your life.

It’s absolutely insane. Let alone all the examples previously of pre-mediated murder or domestic violence murders where people are released serving less than half their term

And surprise surprise! Not one of them is rehabilitated and virtually all of them commit further crimes shortly after being released.

Bring back plastic grocery bags even if they have a fee on them for turtle sanctuary

Or you can claim Affluenza after killing 4 in a DUI car crash and get off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch




Carneys video now.
129,164 views 16 hours ago #1 on Trending

Same! I just submitted my mailed in ballot.

lmfao he got rekt hard:fullofwin:

Or you could get 3 months in jail in the US for 3 counts of sexual assault. Or you can kill a young black kid with a bag of m&ms and serve no time because you were scared. Don't act like US is some fucking beacon of justice.

Ok, name another country where there are actually laws that fit the crime, can we be like them? lol

Please, just the repercussions for your heinous actions, that’s all I’m asking.

That old man just got what he deserved I guess

Edit* sorry old MEN, multiple people in their 90’s, amazing.

The people killing someone while DUI made that same "mistake" far more than once, they just had it catch up with them once.

Wanting to throw more people in jail is all well and good if you think that's the correct approach, but it's not going to work when everything is already at capacity. Where's the plan to allocate more funding for more jails, guards, judges, and the rest of the justice system to actually support that?