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The people killing someone while DUI made that same "mistake" far more than once, they just had it catch up with them once.
Wanting to throw more people in jail is all well and good if you think that's the correct approach, but it's not going to work when everything is already at capacity. Where's the plan to allocate more funding for more jails, guards, judges, and the rest of the justice system to actually support that?
Is it unreasonable to lock someone up for an extended period of time who has 30+ convictions?
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The Liberal candidate selected by Mark Carney to replace one who dropped out over a China-related controversy is a member of a Beijing-friendly lobby organization and has given talks at events honouring a Toronto group that advocates for the annexation of Taiwan by China.
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Onetime Toronto police deputy chief Peter Yuen, who is now carrying the Liberal banner in the Toronto-area riding of Markham-Unionville, succeeded Paul Chiang. The former MP stepped down April 1 after news broke that he had talked to reporters about how someone could take a Conservative candidate and human-rights advocate to the Chinese consulate to claim a bounty put on him by Hong Kong authorities.
Mr. Yuen appears to have a strong relationship with China’s diplomatic mission in Toronto. In 2014, the consulate held an event to mark his promotion to Toronto police superintendent. He has attended consulate celebrations, including one in January, 2020, that included a photo display on Xinjiang province that did not acknowledge Beijing’s brutal treatment of its Muslim Uyghur minority there. Canada’s Parliament adopted a motion in 2021 that declared China’s treatment of its Uyghurs a genocide.
Mr. Yuen has also spoken at and attended events of the Toronto branch of Chinese Freemasons, which has advocated for what it calls the “peaceful reunification of China and Taiwan,” a phrase rejected by the Taiwanese government, which contends that only the self-governing island can decide its own future. Ottawa’s position is that it opposes the use of coercion or force to unilaterally change the status quo of Taiwan.
The new Liberal candidate as of Wednesday was listed as honorary director of the Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada (JCCC), a Toronto-headquartered organization founded in 2002 with clear ties to China’s United Front Work Department. The UFWD answers to the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s central committee and oversees Beijing’s influence, propaganda and intelligence operations inside and outside of China.
Although listed as honorary director, Mr. Yuen said in a statement that his role with JCCC ended a decade ago. He declined to answer e-mailed questions from The Globe and Mail on whether he supports Taiwan’s self-determination, condemns China’s crimes against its Uyghur minority or disapproves of UFWD activities.
Instead, he pointed to his career with the Toronto Police as his qualification to seek election to Parliament.
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
I just voted at an Elections Canada office. You just have to remember the name of your Riding's Candidate and write it on a ballot (they have a list if you forget, but only for the riding the office is located in). You can vote in any location doesn't have to be your riding. In and out in 10 minutes.
Since I have time on my hands, I decided yesterday on a whim I'd apply to work at a polling station this year. Submitted an application and 24 hrs later they hired me. I am now officially a civil servant lol.
Crown prosecutor Mark Myhre told Bakan that Trakalo had been driving on Vancouver’s West Georgia Street at speeds up to 133 km/h, driving in the opposing lane and failing to stop at red lights.
Myhre said Hewa was declared dead at the scene while another was taken to hospital for emergency brain surgery.
The case will now proceed to sentencing. Bakan has ordered psychiatric and pre-sentencing reports as well as a Gladue report, done for Indigenous offenders as part of sentencing.
The court charge information was sworn Aug. 13, 2024.
Trakalo was granted bail on Aug. 19, 2024, with conditions including that he not occupy the driver’s seat of any motor vehicle.
Fund it. You actually think that’s an answer? Just let people like these back into society? Pathetic.
You can't throw someone into a jail cell that physically doesn't exist genius. Saying "fund it" is easy. What's PPs plan to actually build more of them?
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
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I'd like to hear why this plan bad.
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The proposed changes mean that people, especially repeat offenders, charged with home invasions, violent car theft or human trafficking would have to prove they deserve bail before it is awarded. Right now, prosecutors have to prove that denying someone bail is justified.
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Automatically revoking gun licenses for people convicted of violent crimes, particularly when those crimes include intimate partner violence.
Passing legislation making the RCMP responsible for classifying new firearm models rather than the gun industry.
Increasing funding to the RCMP's forensic laboratories to help law enforcement better track down guns used in crimes.
Strengthen the oversight of firearms licensing and enforcement.
"You can't be serious about being tough on crime if you're not willing to be tough on guns," Carney said. "You can't be serious about stopping intimate partner violence without being serious about gun control."
The Liberal leader said he would pursue these changes while respecting the right of hunters and Indigenous people to use firearms for sport and tradition.
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Introducing legislation to protect children from online crimes like exploitation and sextortion.
Giving new funding to the Canadian Centre for Child Protection.
Tightening laws to crack down on child-luring including by raising the maximum sentence.
Giving law enforcement more time to prosecute sexual offences against children.
Making hate-motivated murders, including femicide, a constructive-first degree murder offence.
Raising the penalty for the distribution of intimate images without consent.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Buying back anti tank rifles and bazookas stops intimate partner violence?
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From 2009—the first year that comparable data are available—to 2014, rates of police-reported family violence and intimate partner violence generally declined from one year to the next. This was followed by several years of gradual increases then relative stability from 2021 to 2022.
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From 2018 to 2023, police-reported violent crime increased 20%. Over the same period, overall rates of family violence (+17%) and intimate partner violence (+13%) also rose. Increases were noted regardless of gender, although they were larger for men and boys (+19% for family violence and +20% for intimate partner violence) than for women and girls (+15% for family violence and +12% for intimate partner violence)
Can someone point me to data/resources that outline what Honda describes as a totally failed criminal justice system? I'm asking so that I can form an informed opinion on the problem. Other than my opinion that the VPD has a terrible leader and is far too political I generally have no opinion on whether things are working or not - far as I have personally observed things are ok and there are far more important things for us to be focused on than crime and the system behind it.
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Intimate partner violence is rising worldwide. Is it happening more often? Or is there a possibility that people are actually reporting it with a higher frequency than previously, or both?
I can tell you when my step dad put my moms head through a door when I was 5, there were no cops involved....
The beacon of justice the US has seen the same increases in the same period.
We've talked about this before, the problem needs to be addressed at the root of it. Substance abuse, and a lack of respect for women are the drivers and need to be dealt with at the source. Punishing the act doesn't prevent it. There needs to be aim taken at the misogynistic and violent influences that capitalize on young male anger.
Parents need to stop raising pieces of shit.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Can someone point me to data/resources that outline what Honda describes as a totally failed criminal justice system? I'm asking so that I can form an informed opinion on the problem. Other than my opinion that the VPD has a terrible leader and is far too political I generally have no opinion on whether things are working or not - far as I have personally observed things are ok and there are far more important things for us to be focused on than crime and the system behind it.
I went from 2008 to 2024, almost every chart tracks from Federal conservatives, to the decade of liberals which almost every year was an increase over the last.
The data is all there.
To westophers point in being unreported, property crime and petty crimes have risen steadily during this period when undoubtedly you can say that both go frequently unreported and are not captured in that data, so increases over time are likely greater than the data shows.
No one reports when nothing happens lol.. so it obviously doesn’t go the other way.
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Intimate partner violence is rising worldwide. Is it happening more often? Or is there a possibility that people are actually reporting it with a higher frequency than previously, or both?
I can tell you when my step dad put my moms head through a door when I was 5, there were no cops involved....
The beacon of justice the US has seen the same increases in the same period.
We've talked about this before, the problem needs to be addressed at the root of it. Substance abuse, and a lack of respect for women are the drivers and need to be dealt with at the source. Punishing the act doesn't prevent it. There needs to be aim taken at the misogynistic and violent influences that capitalize on young male anger.
Parents need to stop raising pieces of shit.
I don’t disagree with anything youre saying, but you don’t find it a bit odd that that chart literally outlines almost to the month of federal leadership, with one considered tougher on crime and immigration and the other much more lax? It tracks perfectly.
As does the stats can crime index I posted above.
All of that is tangible data outlining everything I’ve been talking about here, it’s plain to see, from an unbiased source.
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Dunno, find some money wasted in frivolous causes out there, I’m sure there are many.
We can find billions of dollars to buy back useless firearms or house asylum seekers surely we can divert funding into public safety.
We’ve spent a decade funding countless useless causes, money is around.
You probably could have built multiple prisons with the difference in the F35 fighter program
Are you going to volunteer to be a prison guard too? Because we'll need to staff these hypothetical prisons as well. And like many thankless public service jobs no one wants to work them because Canadians are too good for that line of work. So we'll need more immigrants which raises the cost of living, which puts more people out on the street, which causes crime to go up.
You see, not so easy as just throwing money at it right?
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Violent crime in the UK follows almost that exact same path you outlined. I think it's fair to say government in power only can bear a certain amount of responsibility for those numbers. At the end of the day, these are choices made by the population and those choices go far beyond being based on the punishment at the time. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...and-and-wales/
I also want bail reform. I also want violent offenders off the streets. I also want multiple time violent offenders to be absolutely fucked by the system when the proof of the pattern emerges. But more than that I want people to be dissuaded from violence before it happens. I don't believe divisive rhetoric that comes from the modern day conservative majority addresses that. You can't deny PP has based his political career on gotchas and division, and so far, Carney isn't doing that.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Dunno, find some money wasted in frivolous causes out there, I’m sure there are many.
We can find billions of dollars to buy back useless firearms or house asylum seekers surely we can divert funding into public safety.
We’ve spent a decade funding countless useless causes, money is around.
You probably could have built multiple prisons with the difference in the F35 fighter program
That's an option, but is anyone actually planning to do that? Carney's plans (while I agree with them) will have the same issue. If they haven't actually outlined how they're going to get people charged quickly and where they're going to go once charged then increasing sentences is pointless because offenders just walk when there's nowhere to put them. Piles of intimate partner violence cases are already tossed out because they can't be processed quickly enough.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
I went from 2008 to 2024, almost every chart tracks from Federal conservatives, to the decade of liberals which almost every year was an increase over the last.
Correlation does not imply causation. I don't blame the Conservative gov'ts of Alberta and Sask for being the underlying cause of why the last decade have been a waste economically because they weren't entirely in control of their destiny - the correlation would say they are the reason per capita GDP has been flat for the last 10 years but it's not really a credible argument.
Implying that as soon as the Liberals took power that criminals decided to start committing more crimes is also not a credible argument. Cops don't get laid off right away, court budgets don't change right away, sentencing requirements don't change right away.
Point me to the underlying analysis of why the numbers moved the way they did - courts got fuller? did gov't relax laws? did funding get cut? When did those things happen and what are the actual correlations?
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