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whitev70r 04-28-2025 08:56 PM

^ concession speech and resignation as leader?

Isn't it embarrassing to not even win your own riding?

Manic! 04-28-2025 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9175168)
If only PP just drove a Corvette around a track a bit more...

Nardwar strikes again.

RevYouUp 04-28-2025 09:04 PM

Doesn’t matter who won, we’re due for a recession anyways, the common folk is leveraged to the tits. If pp won we’d all blame him for the recession and vice versa. Same shit different day

JDMDreams 04-28-2025 09:09 PM

Can pp even be leader if he lost his seat?

CivicBlues 04-28-2025 09:15 PM

Krusty Clark did it, she lost to David Eby in her own riding and had to force a by-election in Kelowna to get a seat.

Jason00S2000 04-28-2025 09:19 PM

Well... turns out I was right. I was saying I wouldn't be shocked if the Liberals won a majority with the elbows up rich boomers all voting red out of fear.

But I have some good news, turns out, my father was an American citizen when I was born, and according to the laws, I qualify for dual citizenship. In fact, I'm an American citizen by birth. Can't believe it took a Carney win for me to actually look into this.

Soooo... I'll be getting my father's birth certificate and military records and applying for a USA passport in Vancouver sometime soon. Movin' to Gnawleens once I get my proof of citizenship.

Have such a bad feeling about the future of Canada.

Teriyaki 04-28-2025 09:25 PM

^ best news I've heard all night.

Anyone else getting creepy ass vibes from this guy in the blue suit standing on the liberal stage? Shifty mfer

JDMDreams 04-28-2025 09:25 PM

Are you going to sew us some t shirts?

whitev70r 04-28-2025 09:26 PM

I'm OK with a Lib minority, going back to compass, I was centrist and Lib values and Con values were equal distance apart. Large Con contingent to keep Lib focused on economy, affordability, and no wacky Turd stuff to distract from what is central.

Q though ... how long can this minority government last? I don't want to see PP constantly put confidence motions every other week ... well, first he has to pay a Con with a seat to step aside.

Who does Libs find a partner with to pass bills? Might not be enough NDP seats to dance with, so he has to get Bloc on his side!

Great68 04-28-2025 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9175176)
Krusty Clark did it, she lost to David Eby in her own riding and had to force a by-election in Kelowna to get a seat.

At least in that case the provincial liberals had a majority in hand when they did that.

PP doesn't even have that. If your party loses the election AND you as the leader lose your seat, that's gotta be a good indication that no one has confidence in you.

unit 04-28-2025 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9175178)
Have such a bad feeling about the future of Canada.

yeah cause the US is heading in such a great direction rn lol

Manic! 04-28-2025 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9175178)
Well... turns out I was right. I was saying I wouldn't be shocked if the Liberals won a majority with the elbows up rich boomers all voting red out of fear.

But I have some good news, turns out, my father was an American citizen when I was born, and according to the laws, I qualify for dual citizenship. In fact, I'm an American citizen by birth. Can't believe it took a Carney win for me to actually look into this.

Soooo... I'll be getting my father's birth certificate and military records and applying for a USA passport in Vancouver sometime soon. Movin' to Gnawleens once I get my proof of citizenship.

Have such a bad feeling about the future of Canada.

Leave your kid and baby momma behind? nice.

CivicBlues 04-28-2025 09:32 PM

Yeah but they've got RFK Jr. running their Dept of Health, that's all Jason needs, his kindred spirit running anti-Vax campaigns until the cows come home. Surprised he didn't run for the border months ago.

ilovebacon 04-28-2025 09:39 PM

This is my first time serious about voting. I switched from conservative to liberal because I was more aligned to their policy, but damn Pierre speech at the end was wholesome. Liberal better hold on to their words.

unit 04-28-2025 09:43 PM

gotta hand it to the guy for losing gracefully and not pulling some trump shit.
that being said, that's how you're supposed to lose and that should be the norm, rather than go out crying like the orange man

whitev70r 04-28-2025 09:47 PM

Of all the present and past leaders, Carney is the most difficult to listen to. He has to learn how to make a speech and not chair a meeting. His cadence and placed to pause are all wrong. PP, Jagmeet are both better ...granted, they have had more experience.

!LittleDragon 04-28-2025 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9175183)
At least in that case the provincial liberals had a majority in hand when they did that.

PP doesn't even have that. If your party loses the election AND you as the leader lose your seat, that's gotta be a good indication that no one has confidence in you.

Under normal circumstances I would agree but PP got the Cons 42% of the vote and gained 20 (as of this time) seats. Under normal circumstances, he did a great job and probably would've won a majority. Justin's 2015 majority was with about 38% of the votes. 42% I think would be the highest in Conservative history. This election has been anything but normal... lol

snowball 04-28-2025 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 9175191)
gotta hand it to the guy for losing gracefully and not pulling some trump shit.
that being said, that's how you're supposed to lose and that should be the norm, rather than go out crying like the orange man

That's how they used to do it. Not sure what the hell happened in the last 15 years over in America.

Jason00S2000 04-28-2025 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9175185)
Leave your kid and baby momma behind? nice.

The family has one of their vacation properties down there. I am going to join them when they go back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 9175184)
yeah cause the US is heading in such a great direction rn lol

Reality check, chief:

GDP smack-down: $27.4 TRILLION (USA) vs. $2.1 TRILLION (Canada). That’s a 13× gap.

Corporate muscle: 139 U.S. firms in the Fortune Global 500; Canada limps in with 14.

Brand clout: Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Tesla… all American. Canada’s top brand barely scrapes the global top-100.

Unicorn census: USA: 653 billion-dollar startups. Canada: 21. Try not to blink or you’ll miss them.

VC firehose: $170 BILLION poured into U.S. startups last year; Canada got $6 B. That’s a near-30× funding gap.

Patent factory: U.S. inventors filed 10× more international patents than Canadians. Ideas live south of the border.

R&D horsepower: America spends 20× more on research and cranks out 5× the scientific papers.

Brain drain nightmare: Two-thirds of Canada’s best STEM grads bolt for U.S. tech hubs the moment they get their diplomas.

yray 04-28-2025 10:20 PM

$100 jason ends up in El Salvador

Jason00S2000 04-28-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by yray (Post 9175200)
$100 jason ends up in El Salvador

:lol :lol :lol

I'll have my USA passport, I'll be fine.

The boomers really, really, REALLY rallied behind "elbows up" and the Liberal party. Canadian boomers are the most staunch Liberals because they probably gained the most from real estate and immigration, and had one job their entire life and a great pension, along with watching the CBC for their news.

Boomers have such a narrow range of things they think about and care about, I knew Carney was going to win, just whether it was going to be a majority or a minority was the only question.

68style 04-28-2025 10:39 PM

You realize boomers are less than 24% of the population now and their numbers have been declining for years right?

Traum 04-28-2025 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9175181)
Q though ... how long can this minority government last? I don't want to see PP constantly put confidence motions every other week ... well, first he has to pay a Con with a seat to step aside.

Who does Libs find a partner with to pass bills? Might not be enough NDP seats to dance with, so he has to get Bloc on his side!

I am totally expecting Carney / the Libs to ask BQ to prop up their minority gov. After all, pandering the Quebecois used to be a normal feature of Canadian federal politics. And why would BQ say no when their sole purpose of existence is to disproportionately reap as much benefits out of the federal gov as they can for their own province? (usually at the expense of the rest of Canada, I might add)

In this sense, I can totally understand the frustrations that Alberta feels. They basically want the same special treatment and perks that Quebec always gets from Ottawa, but they never get it (while Quebec does), and they are the ones that are funding Ottawa to appease Quebec!

Jason00S2000 04-29-2025 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9175205)
You realize boomers are less than 24% of the population now and their numbers have been declining for years right?

But boomers VOTE. I wonder what the % of boomers voted compared to the 18-30 demographic.

Man, 9 years of the Liberals and now another term. Canada is just going to continue to get worse and worse.

whitev70r 04-29-2025 03:33 AM

If things stay the way they are, Libs only need 4 votes to pass any bill, they can dance with the 7 NDP members as well.


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