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So with this unprecedented level of unemployment that Canada is now reaching, can someone explain the logic behind importing an unprecedented level of migrants? Our minister of immigration doesn't really go on to explain it very thoroughly. https://globalnews.ca/news/6949767/i...avirus-canada/ |
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https://vancouver.craigslist.org/d/g...bor/search/lab https://vancouver.craigslist.org/d/f...ity/search/fbh https://vancouver.craigslist.org/d/security/search/sec https://vancouver.craigslist.org/d/r...ale/search/ret If you can't get a job right now it's your own fault. |
Finding A job vs. THE job are very different thing. Sure, a person with a PhD in science can apply for a janitor position, but that's an awful waste of human resources. The problem Canada, and pretty much many many countries in the world is that very problem. People with or without qualification are fighting for the very limited positions available. And many of them would be consider underemployed, as they have the ability to do so much more. And a person goes from making 10k a month to 4k.... it might sounds nothing... just a temporary thing. But when you have MILLIONS of people like that, the economy is in huge shit. That's why I think anyone who's expecting a V-shaped recovery is in lunacy. |
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Because of the low birthrates. This is inter-generational issue that will happen in the next 10 - 20 years. This demographic headwind is a major issue in Western Nations. Canada is in competition with other countries to add bodies - but the correct bodies to boost its economy. Highest chances of that are people who are wealthy immigrants and the educated who have skills that would benefit the Canadian Economy. Folks who would create - jobs - resources - add to the GDP If Canada fails to attract the correct people, it's game over for us. This is the long game that Western Nations are doing. |
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why is immigration needed while unemployment is reaching record highs in canada? Especially immigration at record numbers? Does that seem logical? What is the rush? |
Unemployment was at record lows before the pandemic, although you and I will both agree that plenty of people in the employed category are underemployed (thats a global issue I'd put forward though, and also probably the biggest issue that the millennial/gen Z people will face)they are basing these immigration policies on the speculation that this unemployment spike will just be a spike. |
Again though, what's the rush? Wouldn't it be prudent to wait and see first? This pandemic could,and likely will, take years to recover from economically. And that's not for a lack of people. It would seem that this government will be importing more of the precise problem that we're trying to remedy; an excess of people with a lack of jobs. |
I certainly think they are focusing on both. I agree, promoting immigration shouldn't be a priority, but I also don't think it is as high on their list as people who are against it are trying to paint the picture that it is. Everything has an angle. There are job shortages in certain sectors, but there are also shortages of workers in many sectors. Look at the fish processing on the east coast. No one wants to do it, and as a result Canada will be losing out on a fairly substantial contributor to our GDP. What's even worse, in my eyes, is the needless wasted food as a result, which will drive up prices of seafood in a damaged economy. I know it's not massive, and I'm not trying to say that it is, but thats just one example, and there are more. More expensive food, in a poorer country is a big fucking problem in my eyes. |
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You want that person with a Masters or PHD in a STEM field, but you can pay that person a much lesser salary than their peers. Why not ? Corporations that setup shop here like that. That's the reason why MSFT opened up shop here in Vancouver. Companies in the states are limited to how many H-1B visas they can grant to potential immigrant employees. Being in tech for 14 years for a $40B multinational. A few years back, we terminated our local QA head and a number of QA personnel. We replaced them with contract workers who are fresh off the boat Indians. Instead of the invisible hand of the free market doing what it needs to do (e.g. less supply, more demand, more $$ with the demand), we have ample supply of resources again and corporations do not have spend much $$. I remember reading articles a while back when McDonald's could not get enough employees to work at their Ft. McMurray Branches. Simple resolution for that is raise the wage until you attract the talent. However, McDonald's isn't willing to do that. The alternative that they did, hire a bunch of fresh off the boat immigrants. |
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A lot of businesses have closed their doors for good. That's not a spike. With cerb ending in October, and a lower demand for workers, the options people have will be few. As you said previously, these immigration figures were drawn up when unemployment was at record lows. Now that we're 180 out from those projections, it just doesn't make any sense to me that those figures wouldn't be reconsidered. Strictly from an economic standpoint. Quote:
Importing cheaper labor while the supply here is already at record high, i just can't see that as much other than sidelining Canadians in dire need. these decisions are exactly what determine an economic rebound. |
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Even businesses that are open or now reopening, most can't operate at full capacity due to health guidelines for distancing. There's no telling which businesses will be able to sustain that. Or shutting down due to a second wave. Do you think it's a good idea at this time? With the uncertainty of employment the country faces? Your personal opinion. |
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I'm more of a universal basic income type of guy. No cerb qualification scenario. Just give $ straight to the pockets of every adult citizen on a regular basis. This can act as a safety net for our society. Also, capitalism that doesn't start at $0. |
Just to clarify, i was asking your personal thoughts on the decision to maintain Canada's highest ever level of migration, not the reopening of businesses or the measures they are being required to adhere to. I'll stop beating this dead horse now though. Doesn't appear that anyone is too concerned with it for some odd reason. |
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Also this: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...-covid-19.html |
During the great depression, Canada's immigration numbers fell to below one tenth what they were prior. This obviously isn't the great depression. But it is the only comparison we have to the figures we are seeing.and i am weary of where we'll be this time next year.. |
What interesting times we live in. *Edit - originally the story was just reporting on the NDP seeking funds, hence the welfare comment from JJ. The NDP seeking help is interesting, but nothing compared to the corporate-backed Libs and Cons. I haven't seen a comment from Maxime Bernier, but I suspect he wouldn't approve, as he is against corporate bailouts and such. |
Our government spending as responsibly as ever, I see. https://nationalpost.com/news/no-nee...eign-residents Quote:
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I wonder how much it would cost to buy a SIN number. Or 20. Or 100. Why not make it 1000. No one's counting anyways. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sto...raud-1.5232037 |
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