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El Bastardo 07-22-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8993223)
She reminds me of those ultra-right conservatives that run down in the Southern bible-belt, it's bizarre seeing that type of candidate here in Burnaby, of all places.

The PPC doesn't attract the best and the brightest, folks!

Manic! 07-22-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by El Bastardo (Post 8993495)
The PPC doesn't attract the best and the brightest, folks!

But didn't you run for the PPC?

El Bastardo 07-22-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8993502)
But didn't you run for the PPC?

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mikemhg 07-22-2020 11:20 AM

I love that she grew up in Uganda with her parents being missionaries.

Only validates what we Africans have always said about white missionaries that come to the developed world to "help" the people.

They are bigots in sheep's clothing.

westopher 07-22-2020 11:36 AM

For a long time terrible people have simply used religion as a metric to trick others (and themselves for that matter) into believing they have some sense of morality.

whitev70r 07-22-2020 09:40 PM

Bill Morneau, our country's finance minister, couldn't keep track of his own family finance and only found out yesterday that he should have paid back WE $41K for some travel expenses back in 2017 ... hmmmmm.

Hehe 07-22-2020 11:04 PM

I think the oppositions are waiting for the rabbit hole to go a bit deeper before the non-confidence vote.

Anyone else think an election could be coming soon? Maybe this time next year as latest?

Infiniti 07-23-2020 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8993609)
I think the oppositions are waiting for the rabbit hole to go a bit deeper before the non-confidence vote.

Anyone else think an election could be coming soon? Maybe this time next year as latest?

Not likely. The Cons don't even have a leader, and its highly unlikely the Cons double down on Scheer as a ticket to victory. If anyone is gonna call an election, its the Libs. Despite the controversy, their numbers are still up, which would potentially allow them to gain a majority.

El Bastardo 07-23-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8993619)
Not likely. The Cons don't even have a leader, and its highly unlikely the Cons double down on Scheer as a ticket to victory. If anyone is gonna call an election, its the Libs. Despite the controversy, their numbers are still up, which would potentially allow them to gain a majority.


Pierre Poilievre wisely skipped this election cycle and is going to come in on the next one. Hes the best one to head up the Cons IMO.

Milkman Scheer's doughy ass was unsuitable for heading up the party of MacDonald. I don't see an obvious replacement for him though, but they could put a mop and a bucket on the stage and have a better chance than Scheer would.

My solution would be to get Jack Layton's DNA and bring him back Jurassic Park style. Jagmeet is a bright and charismatic guy but he appeals too far to the left and too much to the very very young voter (who won't go out and vote on election day) to make a dent with the NDP.

Hondaracer 07-23-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8993601)
Bill Morneau, our country's finance minister, couldn't keep track of his own family finance and only found out yesterday that he should have paid back WE $41K for some travel expenses back in 2017 ... hmmmmm.

And again, like his boss Turd, using the “I didn’t know” excuse.

The arrogance in the wording of his “apology” shows how much crooks like him actually give a fuck about public accountability. So gross.

welfare 07-23-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993647)

The arrogance in the wording of his “apology” shows how much crooks like him actually give a fuck about public accountability. So gross.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f2e4...itemid=6945518

Hondaracer 07-24-2020 11:48 AM

Telus and Virgin cut ties with We:

https://apple.news/AzoizLO9KTVKDgKEjROgtVw

BuT ItS NoT a ScAnDAl!!!

Manic! 07-24-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993800)
Telus and Virgin cut ties with We:

https://apple.news/AzoizLO9KTVKDgKEjROgtVw

BuT ItS NoT a ScAnDAl!!!

No one cares.

GLOW 07-24-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993647)
And again, like his boss Turd, using the “I didn’t know” excuse.

The arrogance in the wording of his “apology” shows how much crooks like him actually give a fuck about public accountability. So gross.

i'm picturing him chuckling like rick martel...

i can't take the current scandal seriously so i can just post wwe stuff


Manic! 07-29-2020 01:38 AM

This is some welfare type shit. FailFish watch the video.

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The "Canadian Revolution" camp and its supporters tried to do a citizens' arrest of Trudeau for SNC Lavalin / treason / pedophilia or something again in Ottawa today.

It didn't go as planned.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d...justin-trudeau

El Bastardo 07-29-2020 07:03 AM

The more these fringe wingers throw out the word "Pedophile" the less this term has real meaning.

Pedophile is being diluted from meaning "someone who has committed a heinous crime against children" to just "someone I don't like".

These fringe wingers care less about children and more about hurting people they don't like with outrageous accusations.

Bouncing Bettys 07-29-2020 08:09 AM

^Are these the same fringe wingers who label anyone who doesn't line up with their ideologies 100% as racists and Nazis?

Manic! 07-29-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8994135)
^Are these the same fringe wingers who label anyone who doesn't line up with their ideologies 100% as racists and Nazis?

How bad did your feeling get hurt when someone called you a racist?

El Bastardo 07-29-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8994135)
^Are these the same fringe wingers who label anyone who doesn't line up with their ideologies 100% as racists and Nazis?

Yeah man. They're on the left AND on the right. Thats why I didn't identify a specific part of the spectrum, even though this guy skews heavily to the right.

Racist, Pedophile, Nazi, Communist
:moderated::moderated::moderated::moderated:

All shit labels applied to opponents of people's opinions to dehumanize them and avoid having a productive discussion with someone who might challenge their beliefs.

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Manic! 07-29-2020 04:05 PM

JT could shoot a man in downtown toronto and still get elected.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gre...olls-1.5666287
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After soaring in the polls for months thanks to the government's handling of the pandemic, support for the federal Liberals is now taking a hit from the WE Charity controversy.

But that outbreak-induced polling surge has provided Prime Minister Justin Trudeau with a bit of a cushion — one that likely would still win him an election if one were held today.

Traum 07-29-2020 04:48 PM

For the life of me, I can't see how the federal gov's handling of the pandemic was any good. Except for freely handing out record amounts of free assistance money, the Liberals totally dropped the ball on early prevention, containment, and subsequent on-going measures to slow the pandemic despite clear signs from overseas as well as warnings from the locals. The Health Minister, Patty Hajdu, and chief public health officer, Theresa Tam, were especially disastrous in their handling of the pandemic. Among the almost 9000 lives that have been lost to COVID-19, a whole lot of them could have been saved had mandatory quarantine and/or border closure be put in place at the early stages of the outbreak, and widespread mask wearing be recommended.

Even the government assistance money came out in a piecemeal manner, where subsequent policies are only there to patch up oversights and stuff they missed out in the earlier policies, while still leaving certain things fall through.

It boils me up that despite all these failings, JT is still seeing strong public support...
FailFish

Manic! 07-29-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8994186)
For the life of me, I can't see how the federal gov's handling of the pandemic was any good. Except for freely handing out record amounts of free assistance money, the Liberals totally dropped the ball on early prevention, containment, and subsequent on-going measures to slow the pandemic despite clear signs from overseas as well as warnings from the locals. The Health Minister, Patty Hajdu, and chief public health officer, Theresa Tam, were especially disastrous in their handling of the pandemic. Among the almost 9000 lives that have been lost to COVID-19, a whole lot of them could have been saved had mandatory quarantine and/or border closure be put in place at the early stages of the outbreak, and widespread mask wearing be recommended.

Even the government assistance money came out in a piecemeal manner, where subsequent policies are only there to patch up oversights and stuff they missed out in the earlier policies, while still leaving certain things fall through.

It boils me up that despite all these failings, JT is still seeing strong public support...
FailFish

Only 9000 deaths. We have done better than most and we did the best out of the G7. None of the opposition parties or other provinces had any better ideas.

https://time.com/5851633/best-global...nses-covid-19/

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Canada (98,645 cases; 8,035 deaths)

The only entry from North America you’ll find on this list… and the responses between the Canadian and American federal governments to Coronavirus could not diverge more. Of course, this is not an entirely fair comparison, as healthcare systems and federalized powers differ between the two neighbors. Be that as it may, it’s hard not to conclude that Canada’s universal, publicly-funded approach to healthcare isn’t better suited for handling a global pandemic.

Even in things that are potentially comparable between the U.S. and Canada—say, public messaging coordination around the virus between health agencies and national and local governments, or monetary support of international efforts to cooperate on pandemic responses—Canada is faring much better. And a critical component of that has to do with not letting the pandemic response be seized by partisan politics, relying on science to guide the healthcare responses instead (it remains to be seen if the same will hold true for subsequent economic stimulus measures).

Some academics contend that it was Canada’s experience (and more specifically, its failures) with SARS almost 20 years ago that better prepared them for this current pandemic—that experience convinced many Canadians that the federal government has a critical role to play in health care, which before had been the responsibility of the provinces, and the country spent the last decade-plus finding ways to integrate the two. Combine that with significant fiscal and monetary measures taken by Canada (one of the richest countries in the world, and one that values social safety nets at that), those looking towards North America for global leadership in these trying times would probably do well to train their sights a little higher.

Traum 07-29-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8994192)
Only 9000 deaths. We have done better than most and we did the best out of the G7. None of the opposition parties or other provinces had any better ideas.

https://time.com/5851633/best-global...nses-covid-19/

I'd hardly call finishing first among a bunch of losers as any sort of achievement. Esp when you take into account the signficant portion of Asians / Chinese / Taiwanese / Hong Kongers that live in Canada and their collective experience during SARS, Canada could have and should have done far better.

Richmond has the lowest COVID infection rates among all major Canadian municipalities, and this is no small coincidence given the large Chinese population there, and the precautionary measures as well as high alerts that they took upon themselves. There were calls to close the borders or quarantine incoming travellers. None were taken until it was too late.

For quite a long while, Tam was tooting every ridiculous claim that WHO fed to the World, when there were evidence abound that China was blantantly lying. More upsetting is the fact that Tam hailed from Hong Kong, so it was inconceivable that she was unaware of the general sentiments on the pandemic coming from the Hong Kong sources.

But that is how it is. People are happy that the federal gov bailed them out during the lockdown months. I am not denying that. I am just disappointed that Canadians failed to see the failures that could have been prevented.

Manic! 07-29-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8994194)
I'd hardly call finishing first among a bunch of losers as any sort of achievement. Esp when you take into account the signficant portion of Asians / Chinese / Taiwanese / Hong Kongers that live in Canada and their collective experience during SARS, Canada could have and should have done far better.

Richmond has the lowest COVID infection rates among all major Canadian municipalities, and this is no small coincidence given the large Chinese population there, and the precautionary measures as well as high alerts that they took upon themselves. There were calls to close the borders or quarantine incoming travellers. None were taken until it was too late.

For quite a long while, Tam was tooting every ridiculous claim that WHO fed to the World, when there were evidence abound that China was blantantly lying. More upsetting is the fact that Tam hailed from Hong Kong, so it was inconceivable that she was unaware of the general sentiments on the pandemic coming from the Hong Kong sources.

But that is how it is. People are happy that the federal gov bailed them out during the lockdown months. I am not denying that. I am just disappointed that Canadians failed to see the failures that could have been prevented.


So which country do you think did better? Also which political party in Canada did the best?

Traum 07-29-2020 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8994239)
So which country do you think did better? Also which political party in Canada did the best?

Taiwan and Vietnam did the best, and they were able to do that because they did not blindly follow WHO's BS.

Also, if you think the Liberals won the last election, I'd say you're incorrect. Rather, it was the Cons that failed to take the win, and they have no one but themselves to blame.


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