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It's not really about sexism, ageism or whatever discrimination one wants to frame on her.
Physically speaking, our brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 or so. That's why we only learn to be less impulsive and "mature" when making decisions until the later stage in our 20s because our prefront cortex, which manages impulsive behaviours, only finishes its development until then.
Thus, young people can have a say in policy making. I'm not against that whatsoever. However, electing a representative whose physical development hasn't reached maturity... regardless how much experience she might have gone through life, it's physically impossible for her brain to be making the same level of impulsiveness (or the lack of it) as a more mature candidate when it comes to decision making.
Yet they are allowed to join the military/police and make split-second life or death disicions. A person who is 18 has more in common and with someone in there 20's and 30's then someone in there 70's does. You are also acting like if she gets elected she will be making major decitions all by herself. She will be one of 87 MLA's. That's if she gets elected.
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Physically speaking, our brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 or so. That's why we only learn to be less impulsive and "mature" when making decisions until the later stage in our 20s because our prefront cortex, which manages impulsive behaviours, only finishes its development until then.
Intelligence and decision making isn’t consistent across people.
An intelligent 18 year old with a brain that isn’t fully developed understands more than a 45 year old idiot with a fully developed brain.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Yet they are allowed to join the military/police and make split-second life or death disicions. A person who is 18 has more in common and with someone in there 20's and 30's then someone in there 70's does. You are also acting like if she gets elected she will be making major decitions all by herself. She will be one of 87 MLA's. That's if she gets elected.
It's not about whether she can make the right decisions, it's about the decision making process going through her brain. I never said I doubted her skills/experiences.
It's just physical.
She'd be more inclined to make decisions based on impulsive feelings than her more mature counterparts. If you believe that impulsive feelings are good for the society and be a better representation of the constituents that she represents, by all means, vote for her.
I'm just saying that when it comes to decision that can affect not just herself, but a majority of population, we shouldn't leave it up to impulsiveness, but a more careful consideration.
It's like a 22yrs old would generally be able to perform better at sports than a 14yrs old because they are at their physical prime.
Again, you want to frame me that I am ageism or whatever... I'm not. I'm just highlighting what human anatomy tells us.
It's not about whether she can make the right decisions, it's about the decision making process going through her brain. I never said I doubted her skills/experiences.
It's just physical.
She'd be more inclined to make decisions based on impulsive feelings than her more mature counterparts. If you believe that impulsive feelings are good for the society and be a better representation of the constituents that she represents, by all means, vote for her.
I'm just saying that when it comes to decision that can affect not just herself, but a majority of population, we shouldn't leave it up to impulsiveness, but a more careful consideration.
It's like a 22yrs old would generally be able to perform better at sports than a 14yrs old because they are at their physical prime.
Again, you want to frame me that I am ageism or whatever... I'm not. I'm just highlighting what human anatomy tells us.
I have seen plenty of older adults make impulsive and stupid decisions. MLA's also have very little power.
For age it depends on the sport.
She was 14 when she scored the worlds first perfect 10 in the Olympics.
Different sports have different primes. Gymnastics prime is younger, which is why people complained that Chinese gymnist has faked birth certificates and their athletes are actually younger than allowed
Back to 18 or 19 years old being classified as an "adult". I personally feel that this was just made up so that they can draft/enroll you into military way back and needs to be revisited, but unfortunately will not.
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Physically speaking, our brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 or so. That's why we only learn to be less impulsive and "mature" when making decisions until the later stage in our 20s because our prefront cortex, which manages impulsive behaviours, only finishes its development until then.
Physical development doesn't equate to intelligence, empathy, compassion, nor integrity.
I shouldn't be surprised you're the type who'll write off someone's qualification for a role based off ONE demographic characteristic.
Neuroplasticity plays a pretty important aspect here...I mean, that's why we've got folks in their 30's+ stuck on their old ideas...maybe even politicians lol. Maybe that's why so many are hard-stuck on their own ideologies and refuse to be compassionate and empathetic to to other walks of lives.......
And you guys continue trying to justify your points based on things I’m NOT talking about.
I’m talking purely from the physical development POV. If you can find me a peer reviewed article suggesting otherwise, I’m all ears.
Her not-fully-developed cortex will make her more impulsive, everything else being equal, than another person with fully developed cortex.
It’s like asking a 14yrs old kid with 3yrs of training vs. another similar build 22yrs old with also 3yrs of training. One is at physical prime, another is still developing. The 14yrs will be at a disadvantage. If I’m a coach picking player to play a game to win, I’d pick the 22yrs old if I didn’t know anything else.
And you guys continue trying to justify your points based on things I’m NOT talking about.
I’m talking purely from the physical development POV. If you can find me a peer reviewed article suggesting otherwise, I’m all ears.
Her not-fully-developed cortex will make her more impulsive, everything else being equal, than another person with fully developed cortex.
It’s like asking a 14yrs old kid with 3yrs of training vs. another similar build 22yrs old with also 3yrs of training. One is at physical prime, another is still developing. The 14yrs will be at a disadvantage. If I’m a coach picking player to play a game to win, I’d pick the 22yrs old if I didn’t know anything else.
NBA drafts are about future potentials. They are in for the long term business.
By the same analogy, we should always elect young people so maybe one day they can become GREAT politicians. Do you see the flaw in your idea? We do train politicians... by them having the experience to work with law, people in the community, political experience... but you don't elect them from nobody to a provincial representative at first shot.
Being a representative is a very different business. We want them to be able to function at their prime on the day they take office.
Going back to my previous example... it's a one-game only competition that lasts 60min (4yr or however long until the next election). You either win the game or lose it (the elected gets to push/pass/deny bills/proposals as they see fit). There is no coming back to this same game. It's not a Stanley Cup that takes place every year. (laws can get changed... but almost never retroactively... so if it didn't happen during this term, it's done). Do you choose a 14yrs old who has yet to reach physical prime or 22yrs old who has reached physical prime? They are both the same physique, same training and same talent. The ONLY difference is their physical given their age.
Again, I'm NOT discriminating or think she's not a good person.
I'm simply stating the fact of her physical limitations. Not mixing men and women in a professional competition is not sexism... it's about being fair due to the physical capabilities of each gender.
NBA drafts are about future potentials. They are in for the long term business.
In his first year at age 19 LeBron scored almost 21 points per game more than anyone on his team. That's straight from highschool. Ya but sure draft some someone who is older. Lol.
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And you guys continue trying to justify your points based on things I’m NOT talking about.
I’m talking purely from the physical development POV. If you can find me a peer reviewed article suggesting otherwise, I’m all ears.
Her not-fully-developed cortex will make her more impulsive, everything else being equal, than another person with fully developed cortex.
It’s like asking a 14yrs old kid with 3yrs of training vs. another similar build 22yrs old with also 3yrs of training. One is at physical prime, another is still developing. The 14yrs will be at a disadvantage. If I’m a coach picking player to play a game to win, I’d pick the 22yrs old if I didn’t know anything else.
Lol. And what does any of this have to do with voting for someone to represent a community?
I'm not looking for a 'prime' athlete or a war commander. You haven't even talked about her platform once
Pretty sure one votes for a MLA that will be focused on issues he/she finds important and shares similar values as they.
Justin Trudeau, that arrogant prick! Hope there is an internal revolt and he is turfed ... or if this does trigger election, that they get even less of a minority government.
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Has NDP cast their vote yet? The chance of a election is dictated by that, and I’ve seen no info saying they will not support the liberal minority yet.
It sucks, because liberals are the best party for Canada, but out of the three that actually matter, he’s the worst leader.
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Westopher is correct.
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It’s not beneficial for the NDP to risk this government collapsing. It’s their best chance currently of having a voice. With a conservative minority they risk having their agendas pushed out in favour of more centrist views and a con majority is even worse for them.
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Westopher is correct.
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Originally Posted by fsy82
seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Looks like NDP will save us from going to an election. Abstaining is a good signal to the Libs ... gawd, what would it take to turf the leader of a party while it is in power?
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said today that his party will not give Prime Minister Justin Trudeau an "excuse" to send Canadians to the polls in the middle of a global pandemic — an apparent signal that Trudeau's government will survive today's confidence vote.
In a news conference just two hours before a crucial confidence vote, Singh declined to say exactly how his MPs would vote or whether they might abstain.
"We are voting for Canadians. We are voting against an election," he said.
Erh... last time I checked, us has roughly 10x of cdn population?
There are states with more or roughly same # of people than entire Canada combined. And we are bigger than us in land mass.
I wish people would stop comparing our area to the US. 90% of Canada is a frozen wasteland and shouldn't be counted in terms of population density especially vis-a-vis COVID cases. For all intents and purposes Canada is a country with a very small livable area compared to the US. Furthermore most of our cities are the same if not more dense than than most of the US (NYC, SF excepted).
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