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Manic! 01-11-2019 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8935440)
Why not a compromise?
Introduce private option to offer competition.

BC already has a private option for comprehensive. If B.C. allowed private companies to offer basic insurance they would just cherry pick the drivers with the best record, ICBC would be stuck with all the other drivers increasing cost for everyone who can't get private. Ever had a speeding ticket?

welfare 01-11-2019 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8935443)
BC already has a private option for comprehensive. If B.C. allowed private companies to offer basic insurance they would just cherry pick the drivers with the best record, ICBC would be stuck with all the other drivers increasing cost for everyone who can't get private. Ever had a speeding ticket?

Right. So the drivers with clean records would pay less.
I see your point.

underscore 01-11-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8935426)
It's great for people who have no claims history and no ticket history... but get a ticket (even just ONE ticket!) or have an affinity for auto-cross or a particularly rare and valuable type of vehicle and you're at the mercy of them deciding they just don't want to sell you a policy anymore. Do some research on it in the USA how companies spy on their customers to see if they are doing risky stuff like auto-cross (Wooo! So risky!) or modifying their vehicles in any way and then blacklisting them.

I've mentioned these example in other threads, but I'll say them again because things like this are a big reason I like having ICBC. In Oregon an insurance company found out that a guy did a rally cross event with one of his cars. They then cancelled the policy for that car, his daily driver, his wifes car, and their house. In Quebec a buddy spent ages trying to be able to drive his RHD car when he moved there for work because no insurance company wanted to cover it.

Personally I'm willing to pay a little extra to know I'm not going to have to deal with bullshit like that, or having to spend a bunch of time comparing insurers to make sure there isn't some fine print that lets them weasel out of paying a claim. And like westopher I'll pay a little extra now knowing that the same system made it so I could actually afford to drive when I was a broke teenager.

westopher 01-11-2019 08:50 PM

Welfare I agree with private companies being allowed in for sure. I’m not arguing that ICBC can be the only option. Simply stating that a private system isn’t without its flaws, and an example of ICBC bringing a positive.

welfare 01-11-2019 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8935450)
Welfare I agree with private companies being allowed in for sure. I’m not arguing that ICBC can be the only option. Simply stating that a private system isn’t without its flaws, and an example of ICBC bringing a positive.


If it were black and white, there'd be nothing to discuss.
Looking at all the pros and cons of both systems and then weighing them is a logical formula to draw conclusion.

welfare 01-11-2019 10:17 PM

And it just occurred to me that this is an automotive enthusiast site lol.
So there will be a bias.
But the general population who use their vehicles strictly as a mode of transportation, and play by "the rules" would probably be keen on private.

ImportPsycho 01-12-2019 10:17 AM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...buse-1.4974344

Another Photo op for JT


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01...7310441898.jpg

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Ms al-Qunun shared a snap on social media of her in first class enjoying a glass of wine as she jetted off to Canada as a refugee
I have zero sympathy for this girl.
Other women get no help because they don't have smartphone and social media account?
Gtfo...

Mr.HappySilp 01-12-2019 10:45 AM

^^

Instead of worry about other maybe JT should focus on our citizens first? We still have 2 Canadians detain in China without any charges being laid, without the right to see a lawyer or rarely have Canadians officials helping them. Oh and they are being integrated.

Or maybe JT is doing this to avoid dealing with real issues which he doesn't have ability to solve.

Speed2K 01-12-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8935449)
I've mentioned these example in other threads, but I'll say them again because things like this are a big reason I like having ICBC. In Oregon an insurance company found out that a guy did a rally cross event with one of his cars. They then cancelled the policy for that car, his daily driver, his wifes car, and their house. In Quebec a buddy spent ages trying to be able to drive his RHD car when he moved there for work because no insurance company wanted to cover it.

Personally I'm willing to pay a little extra to know I'm not going to have to deal with bullshit like that, or having to spend a bunch of time comparing insurers to make sure there isn't some fine print that lets them weasel out of paying a claim. And like westopher I'll pay a little extra now knowing that the same system made it so I could actually afford to drive when I was a broke teenager.

Yes, I've read about this happening in California & NJ as well. The insurance company snooped through the social media postings for one guy and saw a picture of his car on track and so they cancelled all his policies (including home), the reason, "In the agents words, "We only insure regular, drive-to-work cars."". SMH

Manic! 01-12-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8935448)
Right. So the drivers with clean records would pay less.
I see your point.

maybe only the top 5 or 10% will get cheaper insurance everyone else would pay more. You're over 65 no private insurance, you had a speeding ticket 10 years ago no private insurance etc.

Manic! 01-12-2019 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportPsycho (Post 8935489)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...buse-1.4974344

Another Photo op for JT


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01...7310441898.jpg



I have zero sympathy for this girl.
Other women get no help because they don't have smartphone and social media account?
Gtfo...

She was facing a death sentence if no one helped her. But I agree with you we as a country should be helping more people that don't have social media access.

Infiniti 01-12-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8935491)
^^
https://youtu.be/6V0hBsv3Nwg

Instead of worry about other maybe JT should focus on our citizens first? We still have 2 Canadians detain in China without any charges being laid, without the right to see a lawyer or rarely have Canadians officials helping them. Oh and they are being integrated.

Or maybe JT is doing this to avoid dealing with real issues which he doesn't have ability to solve.

You really have no idea how government and diplomacy works do you!? Canadian diplomats along with officials at Global Affairs Canada have been working tirelessly behind the scenes to secure the release, and at the very least, lawyer visitations as well as consular support to the two detained Canadians. This isn't a case where Canada is dealing with some small developing nation where it can throw its weight around and apply pressure. Our country is basically at the whim of the Chinese authorities on this matter.

Hence, why we are applying pressure by reaching out to our allies for support so that we can create more noise on the issue and create bad publicity for China. Its our best bet at securing the results we seek as a country for the detained individuals.

westopher 01-12-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8935509)
You really have no idea how anything works do you!?

Fixed.

belka 01-12-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 8935341)
White challenger

The airbus 310? YKA handles much bigger, we've got the C17 occasionally

C17 needs way less runway length. I thought for some reason YKA was only 6000ft.

Tegra_Devil 01-12-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by belka (Post 8935542)
C17 needs way less runway length. I thought for some reason YKA was only 6000ft.

8000ft. There was a 2000ft expansion 7 years back I believe

jasonturbo 01-14-2019 04:08 PM

Listen to this blithering idiot...

https://twitter.com/ctvqp/status/108...69574435196929

Canadian political landscape is such a joke, I can't stand any of the party leaders.

welfare 01-14-2019 05:03 PM

^^^NPC party leader^^^

Jmac 01-14-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonturbo (Post 8935875)
Listen to this blithering idiot...

https://twitter.com/ctvqp/status/108...69574435196929

Canadian political landscape is such a joke, I can't stand any of the party leaders.

He memorized talking points well; too bad they completely avoided the question he was asked multiple times.

I honestly have no idea who I’ll vote for. Even May, who I was on board with, has really pissed me off this term (e.g. not running a candidate in Singh’s riding as a “political courtesy” because he’s a federal party leader. What happened to democracy? If the people in that riding want him to represent them, they’ll vote for him. They shouldn’t be forced to vote for him because every other party steps aside).

richardmozis 01-16-2019 03:03 PM

Running on good policy and ideas? Naah, let's just go the lazy route and ask voters to vote on ethnicity and end up botching that too.

Burnaby South Liberal candidate quits over her racial comments about NDP leader

Acura604 01-17-2019 12:45 PM

LOL.. she's such an embarrassment to the Chinese community...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tion-1.4981998

She was in.

Then she was out.

Now Karen Wang wants back in, asking the Liberals to reconsider letting her run in next month's Burnaby South byelection — despite handing in her resignation Wednesday.

But in a statement, the Liberal Party of Canada says it has refused Wang's request for a second chance.

"As mentioned yesterday, recent online comments by Karen Wang are not aligned with the values of the Liberal Party of Canada. The Liberal Party has accepted her resignation as a candidate and she will not represent the Liberal Party in the Burnaby South byelection."

Hehe 01-17-2019 02:33 PM

Seriously I have 0 sympathies for Karen Wang.

She clearly had very little understanding on how democracy works. How low does one have to be to be playing the ethnicity card? And to be asking to be back in immediately after you resigned?! I know everyone deserves a second chance, but SHOW that you are worth it before asking.

Democracy is about people electing candidates to represent them. You want people vote? Tell us WHY you deserve my vote? Like I give a single fuck whether you are Chinese, Indian, Sikh, Black or whatever color/race/ethnicity. All I care is about whether your ideology is in line with mine.

If she's serious, she should take some time off, do a lot of volunteering in the community, get to know your constituents and your community by talking and engaging with them.

And seriously... do some work. I was shocked I couldn't even find her Wiki page. How are your voters suppose to know you if you don't even show up on Google search? (well, now she does... all news about how she had to resign and crying back like a 5yrs old). Make it happen and show your expertise, experience, and ideas for your community and let them know. I did some googling for it and gave up after page 4.

yray 01-17-2019 03:01 PM

https://www.burnabynow.com/opinion/b...how-1.23604235

holds press conference and gets the boot

:lawl:

Teriyaki 01-18-2019 03:49 AM

Damn what a gong-show. Its almost reverse entitlement. I'm Chinese, chinese people should vote for me regardless of my views, political prowess, and how idiotic I am that I can't even hide my overt racism. SMH.

Digitalis 01-18-2019 09:34 AM

10 counselors in vancouver 0 asians 0 east indians, race card:awwyeah:

welfare 01-18-2019 10:27 PM

It is possible her comment was misinterpreted or taken out of context.
As it was translated into English, things can get lost.
I don't know whether that is the case. But it is possible.


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