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westopher 03-20-2021 11:19 PM

That’s the thing. Trudeau is pretty bad. He’s done some good, but overall looked like an idiot often. I do think he represents Canada fairly well on the world stage though, but more based on the comparison to the idiocy of many other world leaders.
But fuckin hell can someone seriously consider the clusterfuck that’s the Conservative party? Let’s not forget they actually had an anti abortion, homophobe, sociopath as a candidate that had a legitimate chance as a party leader (Derek Sloan) or the NDP, who really has only succeeded at complaining about everything while offering no feasible solutions for a single issue at hand. Or the peoples party which is basically just a fuckin Jordan Peterson book come to life.
All of the parties in Canada are kinda shit. At least any party that has a chance is just kinda shit, compared to many other countries that are maximum shit like republicans.
I just wish NZ would annex us at this point.

Traum 03-20-2021 11:24 PM

That is a nice jab on the GOP that you slipped in, Westopher LOL. :)

But on the whole, I agree with everything you've said there.

When election time comes, I'm gonna contact the Conservative candidate in my riding and ask him about climate change and why the Conservatives voted the policy down. If his reply is good, I will still vote for him. But if he is just beating around the bush, then I am just going to cast a spoiled ballot at the next election.

I cannot bear to vote for Trudeau again. But I can't vote for a party that denies climate change is real. FailFish

Manic! 03-20-2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9021479)
That is a nice jab on the GOP that you slipped in, Westopher LOL. :)

But on the whole, I agree with everything you've said there.

When election time comes, I'm gonna contact the Conservative candidate in my riding and ask him about climate change and why the Conservatives voted the policy down. If his reply is good, I will still vote for him. But if he is just beating around the bush, then I am just going to cast a spoiled ballot at the next election.

I cannot bear to vote for Trudeau again. But I can't vote for a party that denies climate change is real. FailFish


Can you also ask him if he thinks the earth is flat?
Remember stockwell day thought that man hunted dinosaurs.

whitev70r 03-21-2021 06:21 AM

I contend as I did many pages ago, Liberals with someone else as leader and PM would be ideal, someone who is less entitled, less arrogant, less crony, and someone who doesn't make extra work for the ethics committee once or twice a year.

underscore 03-21-2021 07:21 AM

I don't like Trudeau either, and I've never voted for him, but like westopher said what other real choice do I have? I'm hoping to be alive and in this country for at least another half century (and my kids well beyond that) but with how short sighted the Cons always are we'd likely end up broke or dead before then if their current membership was in charge of anything. The gov't needs to think long term and not just be reactive when it's too late, and I don't believe the Cons are capable of that.

Not to mention their anti abortion, and climate change BS.

whitev70r 03-21-2021 07:29 AM

Yah, to oust JT as leader of the Liberals is an internal matter and they'll put up with him as long as they are ahead in the polls or as long as the competitor is someone like O'Toole. JT has weathered a lot of controversies. It takes a LOT to oust a sitting PM and leader of the party, and regretfully, Canada does not have a maximum number of terms.

But it doesn't mean we can't critique his dumbass leadership. Wouldn't mind having a female PM like Chrystia Freeland.

Bouncing Bettys 03-21-2021 09:23 AM

Chrystia Freeland? I guess her previous work as Angela on MadTV might earn her the Millennial/Gen X vote.

mikemhg 03-21-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zedbra (Post 9021464)
Slap some black paint on his face, give millions to SNC, break ethics violations more times than any PM, double the countries debt from 150 years in just 2 years without legally having a budget, but O'Toole doesn't understand your f'd up version of climate change and that's it. Typical Canadian uniformed ball licker. We're doomed to Nanaimo intelligence.

Like you give a fuck about Trudeau in black face 20+ years ago :lol

Hondaracer 03-21-2021 11:36 AM

Well I think the black face is just part of the cumulative incompetence of his leadership.

Imo if you actually think Canada is in a better place with Turd these days as opposed to with Harper you’re either a blind liberal or you’re ignorant. There’s never been a leader plagued by non-stop scandal like this, likely in the history of the country. That’s without speaking to the way he’s essentially floundered on the world stage and put our country in an incredibly weak position globally.

Charles Adler on CKNW yesterday had the former CEO of GSK Canada, who had led the company for 15 years and he basically said that the lack of domestic vaccine production fell 100% on the current liberal party as they not only removed resources and priorities of domestic production, but at the same time torpedo’d relationships with companies like Pfizer etc (hence why turd never once actually picked up the phone and contacted the company directly)

It’s very disappointing that the Conservative party is so out of touch they can’t even patch together a mediocre assembly to challenge Turd. This is very similar to what happened in the states that if Donald trump had just been able to muster a half-ass campaign he probably would have won again. Same wirh the cons like all this stupid fucking climate denial and abortion opposition like for fuck sakes, but those issues aside and just create a party that has any sort of semblance of cohesion and you can probably take out the liberals..

CRS 03-21-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9021501)
Well I think the black face is just part of the cumulative incompetence of his leadership.

Imo if you actually think Canada is in a better place with Turd these days as opposed to with Harper you’re either a blind liberal or you’re ignorant. There’s never been a leader plagued by non-stop scandal like this, likely in the history of the country. That’s without speaking to the way he’s essentially floundered on the world stage and put our country in an incredibly weak position globally.

Charles Adler on CKNW yesterday had the former CEO of GSK Canada, who had led the company for 15 years and he basically said that the lack of domestic vaccine production fell 100% on the current liberal party as they not only removed resources and priorities of domestic production, but at the same time torpedo’d relationships with companies like Pfizer etc (hence why turd never once actually picked up the phone and contacted the company directly)

It’s very disappointing that the Conservative party is so out of touch they can’t even patch together a mediocre assembly to challenge Turd. This is very similar to what happened in the states that if Donald trump had just been able to muster a half-ass campaign he probably would have won again. Same wirh the cons like all this stupid fucking climate denial and abortion opposition like for fuck sakes, but those issues aside and just create a party that has any sort of semblance of cohesion and you can probably take out the liberals..

I'm the definition of a swing voter. I was a Stephen Harper conservative and am a Justin Trudeau liberal (at least first term). If Jack Layton was alive today, I would be an NDP.

Honestly, the political board right now is such a shit show that I am forced to vote who I least disagree with.

The conservatives are just so fucked with the old mentality that they couldn't muster the young vote at all. They can't flip anyone and is happy to just keep power in the prairies like that would win them an election.

The NDP with Jagmeet Singh has some interesting ideas but no real plan. He's more shooting for the stars than anything real.

The liberals are ehhhhh ideally not who I would want to vote for with their current policies but they're better than the other two.

Hondaracer 03-21-2021 01:15 PM

Like, I can’t believe in saying this but I might vote for NDP given the current circumstances ffs..

underscore 03-21-2021 03:22 PM

I'm curious how many people would vote NDP to get rid of Trudeau if there wasn't a risk of it allowing the Cons to win.

westopher 03-21-2021 07:48 PM

I certainly would, but I also think NDP lacks leadership at the federal level. I've been really happy with the NDP here in BC though, maybe more so than any government I've ever seen in power (where I live) since I have paid attention.

Teriyaki 03-21-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9021529)
I certainly would, but I also think NDP lacks leadership at the federal level. I've been really happy with the NDP here in BC though, maybe more so than any government I've ever seen in power (where I live) since I have paid attention.

Not much to add to this conversation other than, I miss the Jack Layton Era. That was NDP at their peak I think. There was just a great sense of optimism and energy around the party, not just myself but with a lot of my circle as well. Many of which I didn't think we agreed on politically somehow. Think its been about 10 years right about now since his passing.

Great68 03-22-2021 10:38 AM

Federally I think I mostly align as a Liberal. However they don't have a hope in my riding (They finished 4th behind the conservatives), the race is between Green and NDP, so I vote NDP.

Funny thing is that the Green candidate for 2019 was the former Liberal candidate in 2015. I'll give him credit though, he actually canvassed my neighbourhood and came to my door.

Manic! 03-23-2021 03:15 PM

LOL!!! They are going to lose upwards of 400K a year. That's not much compared to the number of people they have and the number of videos they make.


Manic! 03-23-2021 04:35 PM

Saw a facebook ad for this: https://vancouversun.com/sponsored/s...eTRjZkT79w660A

Quote:

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Traum 03-23-2021 08:29 PM

The 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing is a difficult situation because it smells so much like the 1936 Berlin Olympics. On the other hand, if you don't participate, it is a huge blow to the athletes because every Olympic is basically the pinnacle of their athletic career. :(

whitev70r 03-23-2021 09:25 PM

Hold an alternative Winter games somewhere else, in a country of Canada's allies ... that will really embarrass China.

SkinnyPupp 03-23-2021 10:34 PM

Call it the Nolympics and make it all about the sports and athletes, rather than dick wagging contests over who can build the most infrastructure that gets ignored for decades are

Hondaracer 03-24-2021 05:54 AM

Or just boycott everything outside of the events

No one attends opening and closing ceremonies, don’t do interviews with local press, etc.

underscore 03-24-2021 08:54 AM

The Olympics is such a pile of wasteful trash anyways.

68style 03-24-2021 02:46 PM

I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that way... nothing against the athletes but they’re a sidebar to all the enrichment of powerful people that’s the real reason it keeps going on.

Hondaracer 03-24-2021 03:05 PM

I love the Olympic, always have

But it’s pretty clear since Athens or so, the modern day games is a bit of a sham

Zedbra 03-25-2021 08:52 AM

More Liberal patronage. $237 million contract for ventilators to an ex Liberal party MP, who insisted on payment upfront, only 500 delivered to Canadians and 20,000 sitting on the shelves. This pandemic has been a Liberal hay day for patronage, yet no one seems to mind

https://thepostmillennial.com/trudea...QQkYVcUaIGvFE0


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