Canadian politics thread

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by supafamous

I think each party leader should be required to wear the colours of their parties to the debate instead of all wearing navy blue suits. It'd be awesome.

The debate stage and the suits make it look like they're in the latest Men in Black sequel

[Hondaracer]

Yea, red for the clown hehe

[supafamous]

They're eating the moose! They're eating the beavers!

Jesus, this debate is off the rails.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by westopher

What I'm about to say isn't based on numbers, it's purely observational, but the last 4-6 months seem to have been an improvement. I've worked DT the whole time and I don't think anything was markedly different until 2021. Covid exacerbated drug use and mental health crisis as well as isolation that definitely drove more people down there. I can't tell you why there's been an improvement, but likely due to them walking back the "free drugs" initiatives and maybe because that useless piece of shit Adam Palmer retired?

I concur. Last 4 months for sure. Tbh, the idea of having to "deal with" homeless people in DT was a worrying thought since I work quite a bit in DT now. I went from never going to DT for the last 10 years to being in DT a few times a month. Having said that, I was pleased to be wrong and everything does look much cleaner.. almost reminiscent to 2010 Olympics.. FIFA 2026?

Originally Posted by unit

change can actually be for the worse, thats what we're afraid of here.
look at what's going on in the states. people didnt want the status quo so they voted for the leopard and now they're wondering why the leopard is eating their faces.

If PP had as strong as a background as Carney, I'd vote con.

I asked my younger brother (23) if knows anything about politics. And he said no, but I'm voting for Mark Carney or anyone else's name that sounds interesting bc idc. Sounds like with the younger crowd, politics is still the same - boring and a yolo vote (which is what got Trudeau in supposedly) so this is gonna be interesting.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Can you quantify any of that?

I wouldn't say they are as morally repugnant as the Republicans down south, however their policy agenda and goals of the privatization of public goods and services, the whittling down of government and regulations are strikingly similar.

Harper is the leader of the IDU, a conservative thinktank that works directly with the Republicans to push a global conservative agenda.

The Fraser Institute, another conservative thinktank is heavily funded by the Koch brothers, who as you might know are the founders of the Heritage Foundation, a thinktank that's currently rolling out their shitty agenda in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute

"The institute has received donations of hundreds of thousands of dollars from foundations controlled by Charles and David Koch, with total donations estimated to be approximately $765,000 from 2006 to 2016"

So if they're not the same, they certainly seem to sleep in the same bed with one another.

[JDMDreams]

Watched a few minutes, kinda a waste of time just insulted each other, ganged up on carney and didn't give him time to respond. Pp still sounds like an idiot just with catch phrases but no real answer on how to do shit.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

I wouldn't say they are as morally repugnant as the Republicans down south, however their policy agenda and goals of the privatization of public goods and services, the whittling down of government and regulations are strikingly similar.

Harper is the leader of the IDU, a conservative thinktank that works directly with the Republicans to push a global conservative agenda.

The Fraser Institute, another conservative thinktank is heavily funded by the Koch brothers, who as you might know are the founders of the Heritage Foundation, a thinktank that's currently rolling out their shitty agenda in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute

"The institute has received donations of hundreds of thousands of dollars from foundations controlled by Charles and David Koch, with total donations estimated to be approximately $765,000 from 2006 to 2016"

So if they're not the same, they certainly seem to sleep in the same bed with one another.

This kinda feels like the same road as globalist Trudeau and Carney etc. though

It goes both ways if you’re willing to accept that there is a greater agenda being pushed by the conservatives, ultimately the same can be said about the liberals. Zionism, whatever you want to call it.

Favouring groups which have political influence. It happens on both sides. If you are saying the liberals are immune from this type of conflict, I’d say you’re not being reasonable.

[SkinnyPupp]

Streamable

[westopher]

Is that AI?

[Qmx323]

He said "gagged" lol not gay, I thought he said gay too, but realized this wasn't a Shane Gillis bit.

[!LittleDragon]

YouTube

[Manic!]

pp could get his security clearance but refuse to look at any classified documents.

So this was the press area for the English debate. One reporter for the Hill times goes off on rebel news because they had 5 reporters when other media outlets where only allowed 1 each. Rebel news also asking really long questions to to waste time so pp has to answer less questions.

Streamable

[Traum]

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D

This whole thing about Ford only interested in "profits for themselves and their friends" is pure fantasy and conjecture. There is no proof of it. Period.

The following beg to differ:

- the whole Greenbelt Scandal
- the Ontario Place Spa
- beer at convenient stores ahead of time
- Service Canada at Staples
- for-profit long term care homes scandal
- paying more money to private healthcare providers when there is capacity in public hospitals

These are just a couple of things that I immediately thought of off the top of my head. I'm sure Ford has done far more than the above.

[GS8]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

https://streamable.com/8nccij

On my critical listening headphones, he clearly says 'gagged'.

Originally Posted by Manic!

pp could get his security clearance but refuse to look at any classified documents.

So this was the press area for the English debate. One reporter for the Hill times goes off on rebel news because they had 5 reporters when other media outlets where only allowed 1 each. Rebel news also asking really long questions to to waste time so pp has to answer less questions.

https://streamable.com/tnqrwy

On my critical listening headphones, I wish I was deaf.

[supafamous]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-elect...another-story/

Most Canadians feel as safe or safer than 10 years ago, Nanos poll finds. Conservative voters are another story.

The majority of Canadians feel as safe or safer in their neighbourhoods than they did 10 years ago, according to the latest public issues polling from Nanos Research – but Conservative voters are a significant exception.

The survey, conducted for CTV News and the Globe and Mail, highlights some of the deep divides in voter perspectives heading into this month’s federal election.

Overall, 59 per cent of respondents across the country either said they felt “about the same” (46%), “safer” (8%) or “somewhat safer” (5%) than they did a decade ago, while 38 per cent said they felt “less safe” (28%) or “somewhat less safe” (10%).

The remaining three per cent told pollsters they were unsure.

Results varied among different demographics, but the only group in which a majority of respondents reported feeling at least somewhat less safe was Conservatives.

Among supporters of Pierre Poilievre’s party, 59 per cent either said they feel “less safe” (48%) or “somewhat less safe” (11%) in their own neighbourhoods.

That’s compared to 26.5 per cent of Liberal voters, 23.6 per cent of NDP voters, and 18 per cent of Bloc Québécois voters.

Different responses by region, age

Nik Nanos, chief data scientist for Nanos Research, noted there were notable differences between regions and age groups as well.

“Respondents in the Prairies, Ontario and B.C. are more likely than respondents in Quebec to say they feel somewhat less safe or less safe than they did 10 years ago,” said Nanos, in a statement.

“Younger respondents are also more likely than older respondents to say they feel somewhat less safe or less safe.”

Access the latest Nanos polls and national survey results here
Geographically, the Prairies had the highest number of respondents who reported feeling at least somewhat less safe, at 44.8 per cent, while only 25 per cent of those in Quebec said they same.

More than two-in-five (43.7%) respondents between the ages of 18 and 35 said they felt either less safe or somewhat less safe, a significant increase from than those age 55 and older (32.6%).

Trust in the court system

Nanos Research also asked respondents whether they trust Canada’s court system to dish out appropriate punishments to violent criminals, and found similar variations among those with different political leanings.

Overall, 54 per cent of Canadians said they either “trust” (27%) or “somewhat trust” (27%) the justice system in that regard, while 42 per cent said they do “not trust” (29%) or “somewhat not trust” (13%) it.

The remaining four per cent said they weren’t sure.

Conservative voters were by far the most likely to express at least some lack of trust in the courts, at 65.8 per cent, compared to just 23.8 per cent of Liberal voters. NDP and Bloc voters were in between, at 36.4 per cent and 31.6 per cent, respectively.

The survey was conducted online and over the phone from April 14 to 16, among 1,351 randomly selected adults. The results carry a margin of error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

[whitev70r]

^ Sorry, do not believe poll or one of those where data is twisted to a particular viewpoint. I recall that question and had to think twice. Sure, I might feel as safe in my neighborhood (Richmond, Burnaby, Port Moody, insert your burb) but as a city, when I have to go DT to work ...no. It has definitely gotten worse in the last 10 years.

[Traum]

I would have to say I am reading the above poll results about our court system with a pretty big grain of salt. To me, the operative word in the question is "convicted", meaning that the court is actually able to try the accused and find him guilty. So the question pretty much amounts asking whether people think sentencing for convicted violent criminals is appropriate.

That is a fundamentally different question than whether our court system is functioning properly -- IMO, it isn't bcos the backlogs are too long etc. It is also a very different question than whether Canadians trust our court system to appropriate sentence convicted criminals that committed non-violent crimes, or have repeatedly committed non-violent crimes.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

This kinda feels like the same road as globalist Trudeau and Carney etc. though

It goes both ways if you’re willing to accept that there is a greater agenda being pushed by the conservatives, ultimately the same can be said about the liberals. Zionism, whatever you want to call it.

Favouring groups which have political influence. It happens on both sides. If you are saying the liberals are immune from this type of conflict, I’d say you’re not being reasonable.

Aren't conservatives the most pro-Zionist of the bunch?

What party sleeps with Christian evangelicals? You know, the whole biblical belief of the coming of end times, and Israel's significance to that?

The problem with that is both parties seem to be beholden to that sweet Israeli lobbying money, while one has it intrinsically attached to their religious ideology.

As for Globalism, hate to tell ya, all of these guys follow that doctrine, no matter how much PP wants to give you a song and dance about "bringing it back to home."

[mikemhg]

If you want further proof on that Honda, look who Bibi supports and who he doesn't.

https://x.com/netanyahu/status/19104...article-850444

Tell me who is the Zionist party here.

[Badhobz]

So I really don’t know who to vote for.

Carney seems okay. He’s not turd and he had a legit background in finance and economics.

Pp: he’s not turd. That’s about it. He doesn’t have that much in terms of platforms.

Ndp and the rest are just worthless.

I kinda wanna vote for PP just to get out from having the liberals in power again.

[whitev70r]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

So I really don’t know who to vote for.

Carney seems okay. He’s not turd and he had a legit background in finance and economics.

Pp: he’s not turd. That’s about it. He doesn’t have that much in terms of platforms.

Ndp and the rest are just worthless.

I kinda wanna vote for PP just to get out from having the liberals in power again.

Then go to next level of decision making ...who do you think would represent your riding best out of the two top parties whose values you align with.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Then go to next level of decision making ...who do you think would represent your riding best out of the two top parties whose values you align with.

I have the opposite problem. I like the con candidate in my riding.. but I like carney > pp overall LOL

[whitev70r]

^ yah, that's a tough one. But we have to realize, this isn't the US, we don't vote for the PM per se. I mean we do indirectly ...

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Then go to next level of decision making ...who do you think would represent your riding best out of the two top parties whose values you align with.

My local guy it some liberal buddy guy that I don’t know or care. The system is fucked.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Aren't conservatives the most pro-Zionist of the bunch?

You know who rules you by noticing how hard you are punished when going against certain groups!

Meanwhile, the old-world conflict, staged protests are protected by police, free from criticism on social media, and, in fact, look like they are arranged and spread by the government. Convoy people would already be in jail if they did 10% of the shit the Palestine protests have got away with and continue to get away with. The police practically escort the Palestinian protests around and let them get away with intimidation and roughing up people who dare to film them.

If you think Canada is still a free country you are completely delusional. It is an illusion of choice for 9-5 slaves.