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Old 06-02-2020, 11:37 AM   #451
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If I recall, Rogers had decided long ago to go with Ericsson.
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Rogers already has limited 5G up, are they not going Huawei anymore?
Roger's hasn't used Huawei since the initial 3G roll out
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Both Bell and Telus just announced they will not be using Huawei for 5G rollout
A few months ago I didn't know if I was being stupid for wanting to cancel my Telus internet/tv and my Koodo phone to make a political statement...

Today, I'm glad I don't have to think about it anymore.
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Huge statement by both companies but was a no brainer given recent events
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Huge statement by both companies but was a no brainer given recent events
Don't kid yourself.

I think TELUS was the only company that came out and said they're going to be using HUAWEI. When Bell eventually released a statement saying they were going with Ericsson then TELUS had no other choice than to change course.

They're only doing this because of all the "CHINA IS EVIL" news that's been all over the news for the past several months.
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They're doing it because while the infrastructure might go up and be fine in 2021, things might be quite different in 2025 when China goes full North Korea and Canada is left with a 5G infrastructure that is no longer usable.
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Don't kid yourself.

I think TELUS was the only company that came out and said they're going to be using HUAWEI. When Bell eventually released a statement saying they were going with Ericsson then TELUS had no other choice than to change course.

They're only doing this because of all the "CHINA IS EVIL" news that's been all over the news for the past several months.
Oh I have no doubt about that. Telus had planned to use Hauwei from the beginning and only public opinion over the recent events made them begrudgingly change
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great news
Canada did good
poor Michaels though
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I'd love to read more about this. Can you hook a brotha up with a link?

Is that sarcasm? Aside from common knowledge and real life occurrences I'll just assume you don't read the news often
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Is that sarcasm? Aside from common knowledge and real life occurrences I'll just assume you don't read the news often
And, I'll just assume you are pulling you-know-what out of you-know-where
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poor Michaels though
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The Canadian government can intervene to end Meng's extradition trial. Should it?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/men...vene-1.5623991

The interview with family is worth watching
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1755278403885/

Funny, JT in question by a reporter on Monday said about the option:
“We’re not considering that. Canada has a strong and an independent justice system … anyone who is considering weakening our values or weakening the independence of our justice system doesn’t understand the importance of standing strong on our principles and our values,” he said.

Is this the same JT who strong armed Jody Wilson Raybould to bend the law for SNC Lavalin? How can he stand there and look so righteous about not influencing the judicial system?

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snc Lavalin was for the good of the country tho

and its funny how chinas paid for this new tactic of trying to convince ppl to free meng
im shocked our media is gobbling it up, sad

https://globalnews.ca/news/7075248/c...issive-target/

csis report on how Canada allows itself to be manipulated by china

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Singapore dropping Huawei to go with Nokia and Ericsson for their 5G backbone

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TBH I think any telecom with any brain wouldn't touch Huawei with a 10ft pole, whether their country is banning Huawei officially or not.

The US sanction brings too many uncertainties to the future. If one chooses to deploy Huawei's system and somehow critical components ended up being banned or whatever, you'd be left with a multi-million dollar investment that has no way to even maintain it.

This is also the reason why I think Telus, which was a big Huawei 5G advocate decided to drop Huawei altogether. It's not because of JT et al's pressure... but something that make more financial sense in the long run.
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Imagine this, your companies product offering is more expensive, maybe less developed, and have likely less immediate product available. Yet, now you're seeing orders left and right. Wonder how they're all feeling lol.
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Imagine this, your companies product offering is more expensive, maybe less developed, and have likely less immediate product available. Yet, now you're seeing orders left and right. Wonder how they're all feeling lol.
They and most other EU and NA, S. America, S. Asia, and SEA Intl. companies probably feel like they need to start to significantly scale up as the world relies on China less and less, while they bring themselves back to cold war era style relations.

Pretty soon the only countries willing to work with them will be North Korea, some authoritarian states around the world, and some developing African nations.
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I didn't think Nokia was still pursuing their 5G that's interesting!
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I didn't think Nokia was still pursuing their 5G that's interesting!
One of the bigger players in the 5G space
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One of the bigger players in the 5G space
I remember they were but thought their tech lost out to huaweis to the point they gave up
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https://globalnews.ca/news/7105816/c...-intervention/

Obviously, everyone knew without a doubt that the detention of Kovrig and Spavor was in direct response to the detention of Meng Wanzhou. However, until now China has always denied this claim and argued that the situations were not linked in anyway. Well, China's cards are finally on the table.
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I remember the group of morons piling on when I said, this shit should end. StylinRed, I suppose all these ex parliamentarians and ex supreme court judge are all infiltrated and influence by China?

Former parliamentarians, diplomats pen letter calling on Canada to release Meng

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/let...meng-1.5625669

A group of high-profile Canadians, including former parliamentarians and senior diplomats, say Justice Minister David Lametti should end extradition proceedings for Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou to give Canada a chance to "re-define its strategic approach to China."

In a letter to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dated June 23, the signatories say Canada has the legal right to intervene to free Meng and end the extradition trial that could send her to the U.S. They cite a legal opinion published earlier this week by Toronto-based lawyer Brian Greenspan.

The letter has been signed by former Supreme Court justice Louise Arbour, former Liberal foreign affairs minister Lloyd Axworthy, former Conservative foreign affairs minister Lawrence Cannon, former Conservative senator Hugh Segal and former NDP leader Ed Broadbent, among others.

The signatories say Lametti should set aside concerns about the rule of law — specifically Canada's obligations under its extradition agreement with the U.S. — and politically intervene to end the B.C. court proceedings that involve Meng.

"We contend that the time is past due for the minister to do just that: to end the Meng extradition proceeding and to bring the two Michaels home.

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make it conditional they return Michaels and unfreeze canola exports first before intervening

fuck still feels wrong, not unlike negotiating with terrorists
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As someone said before, Meng is worth 10 of each Michael in the eyes of the Chinese govt. If you are going to do a dirty with China, make sure we benefit from it. It’s a tough situation. Canada’s relationship with the US will suffer from such a move, but pretty clearly the US government will just forget about it like they do with every other issue that pops up for them. As much as I believe Meng whanzou should be punished, there’s no real reason that the US wants to do it that outweighs their desire to send a message to China.
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