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Old 02-17-2019, 01:53 AM   #26
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truth is, most young Chinese in China here don't really give a Fuck about politics and those that do are pretty much dumb fucks

one of my friends is a dumb fuck that tells me dumb shit like this all the time and I have to prove him wrong, but he will end up telling u that "u dont much about the stuff in china"

charlie is just like my dumb ass friend, he believes that media pumps out fake stories and real news sources are cctv china
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:12 AM   #27
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...medium credibility corroborating this narrative.... Canada has a history of this if you want credible info, do you really think it something different this time?
Still waiting on your sources..
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:27 AM   #28
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Im not a huge Chinese nationalist, but the least qualified people to make a moral statement on imperialism is white people.
I feel like peoples education on a topic, knowledge and experiences probably determine how qualified they are to comment on something. Not something an 8 generation removed uncle was part of.
If I joined the KKK and my grandfather was a human rights activist for African Americans in the 60s that doesn't make me a human rights activist. It works both ways.
Someone being white, black, asian, latino, etc has no bearing on their qualifications.
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True, but it's hard listening to Europeans and their decedents preach about moral and political values when literally half the problems are caused by the same group of people.

People have long memories and vendettas are occasionally generational. Ask any minority group here and they can probably tell you a story of how Europeans or decedent's of Europeans has fucked them over. Ideally we should not judge as you said westopher, but this isn't realistic for most.

Anything Europeans says regardless of truth and validity will be taken through the historic context of imperialism and social Darwinism. That's unfortunately unavoidable.
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True, but it's hard listening to Europeans and their decedents preach about moral and political values when literally half the problems are caused by the same group of people.
Who should be saying it then? Every racial group has blood on its hands and horrible people in its history. Having historical ties to the same part of the world as some other prick has absolutely zero bearing on someones personality or knowledge.
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True, but it's hard listening to Europeans and their decedents preach about moral and political values when literally half the problems are caused by the same group of people.

People have long memories and vendettas are occasionally generational. Ask any minority group here and they can probably tell you a story of how Europeans or decedent's of Europeans has fucked them over. Ideally we should not judge as you said westopher, but this isn't realistic for most.

Anything Europeans says regardless of truth and validity will be taken through the historic context of imperialism and social Darwinism. That's unfortunately unavoidable.
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i can see where badhobz is coming from but to make it an statement of absolute is unfair

yes, the average hippie with the bumper sticker likely never stepped outside of North America and get most of their education on the topic from some biased-ass facebook link

but what if the 'activist' and his/her family spent years living abroad helping poor communities? his/her stance shouldn't count just because his/her blood is more European than the average yellow-skinned person?
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Still waiting on your sources..
The Ukraine and Syrian one? or the 53 million one for Venezuela?
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i can see where badhobz is coming from but to make it an statement of absolute is unfair

yes, the average hippie with the bumper sticker likely never stepped outside of North America and get most of their education on the topic from some biased-ass facebook link

but what if the 'activist' and his/her family spent years living abroad helping poor communities? his/her stance shouldn't count just because his/her blood is more European than the average yellow-skinned person?
Thats it. It's not mean to be an absolute statement, it is however just the sad state of affairs in the world. Sins of the father often carry to the son even though it's unwarranted. Ive said this before, the most dissinfrancised group is white males. You guys get blamed for fucking everything and often it's not your own fault. But people paint in broad strokes and often you are the casualty of these sweeping generalisations.
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True, but it's hard listening to Europeans and their decedents preach about moral and political values when literally half the problems are caused by the same group of people.

People have long memories and vendettas are occasionally generational. Ask any minority group here and they can probably tell you a story of how Europeans or decedent's of Europeans has fucked them over. Ideally we should not judge as you said westopher, but this isn't realistic for most.

Anything Europeans says regardless of truth and validity will be taken through the historic context of imperialism and social Darwinism. That's unfortunately unavoidable.


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Like I said already, Canada has a history of this... would you let a 5 time convicted rapist to sleep over in your families home?
Its common sense.
Both sides of WWI and WWII was funded by the same people that run Canadas bank and country today. They built Hitlers war machine when the country was broken, then sent Canadians to get killed by Hitlers army. This is a fact... now to turn around and say no Trudeau is a new president and things are different is being a basic robot.
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Like I said already, Canada has a history of this... would you let a 5 time convicted rapist to sleep over in your families home?
Its common sense.
Both sides of WWI and WWII was funded by the same people that run Canadas bank and country today. They built Hitlers war machine when the country was broken, then sent Canadians to get killed by Hitlers army. This is a fact... now to turn around and say no Trudeau is a new president and things are different is being a basic robot.
Still waiting on those sources Charles. In the mean time, I'll keep an eye on the thread for when you do post them.
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