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ae101 04-23-2019 04:49 PM

Folding smart phone
 
samsung fold just release, thoughts?

Koflach 04-23-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ae101 (Post 8945966)
samsung fold just release, thoughts?

Nope, it's been delayed due to too many issues with the screen.

underscore 04-23-2019 06:10 PM

How are people who are supposed to be reviewing smartphones that inept at using a smartphone that they mangled the screen like that?

SSM_DC5 04-23-2019 06:29 PM

Because they are removing what appears to be a factory screen protector, but in hindsight, it's supposed to be there and stay on to prevent damage.
For that specific Instagram poster, he broke it taking off that protector and Samsung sent a replacement no questions asked.
Him or maybe other reviewers started to notice warnings being put on the newer phones to leave the protector on when the original had no such warning.

320icar 04-23-2019 07:17 PM

I checked out after I heard it’s gonna cost more than $2000usd. Get fucked

whitev70r 04-23-2019 07:29 PM

Stupidest idea ever.

Hehe 04-23-2019 08:08 PM

https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...you-should.jpg

They dived into it without first figuring out what exactly a foldable phone brings to a user as far as UX goes.

So far, Samsung and Huawei have both demonstrated that they aren't much more than a smartphone with larger screen real estate. But that's about it.

That shows how far behind they are from becoming the next Apple (THE player who everyone tries to copy). Although Apple isn't exactly doing its thing anymore.

IMO, they are doing the fold wrong. They both went with a 50/50 split. I don't really think it's a hardware limitation as flexible OLED demos clearly showed that the whole thing was flexible.

The only useful design that I can think of as a fucking geek would be 25:50:25 (yes, 2 folds).

When the phone is closed, it has a virtually notch/bezel-less main screen. The additional 2 folds basically provide area needed for controls (think Nintendo Switch), keyboard... etc. And when fully opened, it gives the perfect 21:9 for movie playback (landscape) or an extra long vertical reading experience that matches to the current app design components... only extending it.

Right now, the Samsung fold opens to a 4:3 screen ratio? all app needs their UI to be re-written to take advantage of that ratio. Or else you are left with black bars no matter which orientation you put it.

Mr.HappySilp 04-24-2019 12:01 PM

Never was interested in Folded smartphones. Just wish they could come up with something that takes advantage of the VR tech we have today. IE maybe a true VR or 3D screen display that doesn't require a head gear. Image how awesome it would be if you can skype/video chat your family/friends as a 3D model of their face or sourronding area (Think of Star Wars communicator). That's what we should go for. Of course that's way too advance for our current tech now.

I think having longer battery life or even a phone that can withstand drops without breaking or shattering is what most people would want. Not some folded screen crap that break twice as easily as the current non folded phones we have.

BIC_BAWS 04-24-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8946057)
I think having longer battery life or even a phone that can withstand drops without breaking or shattering is what most people would want. Not some folded screen crap that break twice as easily as the current non folded phones we have.


This doesn't sell well, when looking at a P&L. Planned obsolesce allowed for further profits with add-ons such as warranties.

Mr.HappySilp 04-24-2019 01:23 PM

^^ of course it won't a lot of cell phone manfactures make a ton off warranties (IE Apple with their Apple care). Also if you break your phone that you been using for 2, 3 years you are most likely to get a new one than to have it fix (since the cost to fix a phone is usually 50% or more of a new phone).

I am sure phone makers can make their phones stronger and more durable and still look decent at the same time.Is like how they are slowly taking away features that's useful and making us pay for those features IE removeable battery, headjack, IR blaster just to name a few.

underscore 04-24-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SSM_DC5 (Post 8945986)
Because they are removing what appears to be a factory screen protector, but in hindsight, it's supposed to be there and stay on to prevent damage.
For that specific Instagram poster, he broke it taking off that protector and Samsung sent a replacement no questions asked.
Him or maybe other reviewers started to notice warnings being put on the newer phones to leave the protector on when the original had no such warning.

So RTFM? It's a totally new piece of design, take the 5 seconds to actually read about the new features it has before mangling it.

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8945994)
That shows how far behind they are from becoming the next Apple (THE player who everyone tries to copy).

You're joking right? Apple hasn't been innovative in ages, all they do is remove features and then add them back, or copy features everyone else has had for several years already.

BIC_BAWS 04-24-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8946062)
I am sure phone makers can make their phones stronger and more durable and still look decent at the same time.

Of course they can. But they won't LOL. Appearance is just their excuse.

There's also the matter that gorilla glass hasn't had upgraded technology in years.

SkinnyPupp 04-24-2019 07:29 PM

I have always called this kind of thing a solution looking for a problem.

The tablet thing is pretty cool, for the very few people who would need such a thing

twitchyzero 04-24-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8946105)
I have always called this kind of thing a solution looking for a problem.

The tablet thing is pretty cool, for the very few people who would need such a thing

tablet/flagship phone sales are down in the toilet, there's only so many cameras you can add on the back and be as discrete as you can get with the front cam until everyone's out of ideas

about time we took advantage of OLED's flexibility, although these devices scream gen 1 beta testing

personally i want to go the other way, back to a dumb phone...i deleted my social media

give me an apple watch with one week battery life and i'll call it a day...tired of carrying around the phone/wallet/keys...everything should be tappable in my ideal world

punkwax 04-24-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8946062)
I am sure phone makers can make their phones stronger and more durable and still look decent at the same time.Is like how they are slowly taking away features that's useful and making us pay for those features IE removeable battery, headjack, IR blaster just to name a few.

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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 8946104)
Of course they can. But they won't LOL. Appearance is just their excuse.

There's also the matter that gorilla glass hasn't had upgraded technology in years.

I believe all the major phone manufacturers have the technology for better/stronger phones they could build today but they’re phasing it out so we all keep going back to the well for new ones. For example, Samsung offering waterproof phones and then Apple following suit. I bet both had the ability to release waterproof phones well before they did and they just wanted to see who would blink first. From a recurring revenue perspective, it’s not in their best interest to release a dominant phone right away as they make more money by releasing smaller feature updates with each new phone.

Or should I take off my tinfoil hat? :badpokerface:

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8946120)
everything should be tappable in my ideal world

:ifyouknow:

fliptuner 04-24-2019 09:50 PM

Still waiting for some iteration of the Seabird :badpokerface:


iwantaskyline 04-25-2019 06:38 PM

After this phone and the Note 7, not sure how people can still buy a Samsung product.

Mikoyan 04-25-2019 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 8946206)
After this phone and the Note 7, not sure how people can still buy a Samsung product.

Because the mainstream alternatives are LG and Huawei.

SSM_DC5 04-26-2019 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8946065)
So RTFM? It's a totally new piece of design, take the 5 seconds to actually read about the new features it has before mangling it.
...

Perhaps, it wasn't clear in my original message, so I'll rephrase.
The original phones sent to reviewers had zero warnings, therefore there is nothing to read.
The replacement phones started having warnings.

underscore 04-26-2019 07:39 AM

I'm not talking about a warning label, I mean the actual manual. I would think anyone trying to review these things should actually read the manual to learn about all the new features instead of just bumbling though and missing half of them. If they aren't even getting the manual with the phone to know about the new features then wtf chance would these reviews have of being useful?

Mikoyan 04-26-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8946229)
I'm not talking about a warning label, I mean the actual manual. I would think anyone trying to review these things should actually read the manual to learn about all the new features instead of just bumbling though and missing half of them. If they aren't even getting the manual with the phone to know about the new features then wtf chance would these reviews have of being useful?

Most manufacturers include only a quick start guide at most. No one includes a manual. There's usually a URL for the actual manual pdf. Why waste money printing it when most users never go through it?

I can guarantee that if Samsung releases the fold with that built in screen protector, even with the warning sticker, there will still be enough dumb MFs that will still peel it and complain that they didn't know.

iwantaskyline 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

That "screen protector" is only one of the problems of that shit design.

Dave 2D explains the other design deficiencies pretty well in this video.


Manic! 04-26-2019 09:53 PM

Everything in tech has been getting smaller except the screen. This is a 1st gen product. Give it a few years.

ae101 04-27-2019 04:21 PM

my friends got the vivo dual screen phone, it isnt bad as u can check msg while u game and stuff

i ask him about the folding phone and his responds was "my dual screen phone is innovative right now while the folding phone is cool, but i dont think i can shell out that kind of money for something just to look cool (thats more then the preimum iphone and thats not as innovative as my vivo)"


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