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SkinnyPupp 07-29-2020 03:46 PM
Yeah "conspiracy to commit public nuisance" is such a serious charge, definitely worth getting rid of a tenured professor for.

And I'm sure all those members voted on their own accord. 100%. Absolutely. Yup. The pro-protest university is still pro-protest I'm sure. SeemsGood

Come on man think about it a bit. If you're right, this would literally be the ONLY time HK isn't getting screwed in this entire thread.

SkinnyPupp 07-30-2020 03:46 AM
12 LegCo candidates banned from election for "opposing" National Security Law, which didn't exist a few weeks ago

bcedhk 07-30-2020 08:48 AM
another check mark to confirm that 1C2S is completely dead.

320icar 07-30-2020 08:55 AM
I guess the world is just gonna let this happen? I suppose any move would create wwIII

StylinRed 07-30-2020 11:44 AM
I still don't see anything wrong with the sacking of the professor

But wow at these candidates being banned

As for the world standing by, eh HK is China after all... If the world's going to let a few million uighurs be loaded onto trains and sent to concentration camps, they're not going to care about HK "never again" only applies to Europe I guess

Hehe 07-30-2020 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8994246)
12 LegCo candidates banned from election for "opposing" National Security Law, which didn't exist a few weeks ago

https://twitter.com/IndyWorld/status...80273589661696
This is all for the greater good of China (HK included) remember? :ilied::badpokerface:

SkinnyPupp 07-30-2020 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8994265)
I guess the world is just gonna let this happen? I suppose any move would create wwIII
The main thing they are considering right now is putting them on the Magnitsky list

underscore 07-30-2020 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8994284)
As for the world standing by, eh HK is China after all... If the world's going to let a few million uighurs be loaded onto trains and sent to concentration camps, they're not going to care about HK "never again" only applies to Europe I guess
It seems like so long as they act within their own borders nobody cares what governments do to their own people. There seem to be a pile of atrocities that have happened since WWII and continue to happen with little to no intervention. China's killing Uighurs, Chechnya is killing homosexuals, Russia is creeping into the Ukraine, etc, etc, etc.

CivicBlues 07-30-2020 03:20 PM
Are there any actual statistics on the number of Uyghurs killed in the camps? I'm not trying to be facetious here, but all I can find are references to "cultural genocide", but people seem to be parading out terms like "concentration camps" and "death camps" with scant evidence of systemic killings/executions.

edit:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...532_story.html

Quote:
For several years, China has been carrying out a cultural genocide, not mass killing of people but a mass extermination of their ideas and beliefs. In the camps, detainees are bombarded with the language and traditions of the country’s majority Han Chinese. China has said the camps were necessary to offset extremism and separatism in Xinjiang, scenes of periodic unrest and Chinese crackdowns over the years.
Please don't say "oh it's China you'll never get accurate figures". The fact is there isn't even a single article stating Even the Rohyinga genocide in Burma has evidence of killings and supporting statistics (up to 40k dead).

What's also amazing is that the HK protests of 2019-2020 have resulted in only 2 deaths.

StylinRed 07-30-2020 03:24 PM
^^^ a concentration camp doesn't mean a death camp

CivicBlues 07-30-2020 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8994301)
^^^ a concentration camp doesn't mean a death camp
I know that, but people are constantly equating the two terms on online forums, social media, even some news outlets.

SkinnyPupp 07-30-2020 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 8994300)
Are there any actual statistics on the number of Uyghurs killed in the camps? I'm not trying to be facetious here, but all I can find are references to "cultural genocide", but people seem to be parading out terms like "concentration camps" and "death camps" with scant evidence of systemic killings/executions.

edit:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...532_story.html



Please don't say "oh it's China you'll never get accurate figures". The fact is there isn't even a single article stating Even the Rohyinga genocide in Burma has evidence of killings and supporting statistics (up to 40k dead).

What's also amazing is that the HK protests of 2019-2020 have resulted in only 2 deaths.
You can commit cultural genocide without killing a single person

If you want evidence just google Uyghur + terms like rape, sterilization, boarding schools, re-education camps, defiling clothing, graveyard burial, cultural landmark destruction, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

CivicBlues 07-30-2020 03:52 PM
Exactly, so can we stop with the ChInA iS KiLliNg UyGhuRs misrepresentation? There's plenty of other stuff to bash China for.

SkinnyPupp 07-30-2020 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 8994306)
Exactly, so can we stop with the ChInA iS KiLliNg UyGhuRs misrepresentation? There's plenty of other stuff to bash China for.
But... Cultural genocide.... Rape. Torture. All the other shit...

SkinnyPupp 07-31-2020 03:31 AM
RIP

mikemhg 07-31-2020 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 8994306)
Exactly, so can we stop with the ChInA iS KiLliNg UyGhuRs misrepresentation? There's plenty of other stuff to bash China for.
That's an odd mountain to die on :lol

CivicBlues 07-31-2020 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8994348)
That's an odd mountain to die on :lol
Is it though? a lot of people have been using that as proof that CCP are literal Nazis and that people of Chinese ancestry are complicit like 1940s Germans. Using that to justify racist behavior against Chinese and other Asians (cuz they all from Chyna rite?). A couple years ago I saw graffiti over a Peaceful Restaurant sign that said something along the lines of "Free the Uyghurs" - no doubt because it's a Chinese restaurant and run by the CCP right? The narrative's obviously been supplanted by Covid but it's a slippery slope of logic when facts are skewed that way.

bcedhk 07-31-2020 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8994340)
Hk Gov: Forces people to go to work in crowded and indoor spaces, allows pro-bj events to be held, no testing required for foreign seamen since they are only in hk "temporarily'

also HK Gov: Voting is going to mean more deaths from COVID! SHUT IT DOWN!

CivicBlues 07-31-2020 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcedhk (Post 8994356)
Hk Gov: Forces people to go to work in crowded and indoor spaces, allows pro-bj events to be held, no testing required for foreign seamen since they are only in hk "temporarily'
:ifyouknow:

StylinRed 07-31-2020 03:08 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53616583
Quote:
Police in Hong Kong are seeking the arrest of six pro-democracy activists living in exile in Western countries, including the UK, media reports say.

The group reportedly includes former UK consulate worker Simon Cheng, well-known activist Nathan Law and US citizen Samuel Chu.

They are wanted on suspicion of violating a new security law imposed in Hong Kong by Beijing, Chinese state TV reported, calling them "troublemakers".

Hong Kong police declined to comment.
Well damn

Teriyaki 07-31-2020 03:19 PM
They're doing it. They're actually going to try to write and enforce laws for the entire world. What is this timeline we're living in.

SkinnyPupp 07-31-2020 03:21 PM

There's about 10 or 11 countries left after 6 canceled their extradition treaty

Hehe 07-31-2020 07:13 PM
With the recent development in HK, I'd honestly be active to avoid traveling through HK at all cost.

Not that I've done anything wrong IMHO... but it seems that having an opposing opinion about anything China does triggers this new HK law and god knows what would happen if I ever try to step on HK.

Sad because I have many friends in HK and totally love Cathay as well as all the HK food. :QQ:

bcedhk 07-31-2020 07:43 PM

6793026 07-31-2020 08:50 PM
Look at it this way, you can't be working for the liberal gov't if you go against JT.
You won't last long at Apple/Telsa? MS if you say F U Steve Jobs, Elon and Bill Gates and their leadership.

How's that different if you work at your job if you don't listen to your leadership. The movie, American Factory, fired those who wanted to start a union....

So.... how do you expect mr Joshua Wong to run for leadership / gov't if you are here to "go against" China while being influenced by anti china backers. Of course China is going to cock block you. What do you expect.... welcome you with red carpet?


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