You are your friends are in trouble now. The Chinese gov is sure going to come after you since you ratted on them.

My parents are going back to HK in Sept and with so much shit going on I don't really feel safe for them to go back. I myself and my wife will be going back to China in Sept. if I am don't return then well we know the Chinese gov is spying on RS as well lol.

Back on topic. To be honest I think people have lose hope for HK already. People who I know that are able to get out either got out already or is planning to. Is only a matter of time when only the poor or those who can't leave HK will be left, the semi wealthy, middle class will leave. A friend of mine went to the protests but she is basically given up on HK gov and is planning to either go to taiwan or Calgary. taiwan is closer to her family and Calgary coz a lot of friends are there. From what she said over the years is getting worse and worse in HK. Now with the HK police openly letting gang just beat up random people, not arresting them and hanging up on people when people call the police line for help. What good is the police if they aren't there to help and serve its citizen? I am sure there are some police that feels this is wrong and wanted to quit.

Has it even been confirmed where these tombs are though? Not everyone is buried in these small village graveyards... There are huge cemeteries that are easy for anyone to access. And these look like fancy tombs, not the very basic type you'd find in a village graveyard

As for vandalism, if you saw what they did to his office, you wouldn't be surprised that they'd do this to his parents tombs. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, this guy is the scum of the earth. But I'd say 9/10 it's a protester (probably a distant acquaintance who is familiar with Ho's family, or knew someone who was)

Hard eye roll

People asked who this Junius Ho guy is earlier... Basically a gangster/lawyer who is a pro-communist lawmaker in Hong Kong. You can read about his issues on his wikipedia page, including homophobic remarks, advocating for the killing of protesters ("What’s wrong with killing enemies in a war?"), and possibly setting up the whole thing with the mainland/triad thugs attacking people in Yuen Long.

Now he's issuing death threats against another lawmaker in HK. Literally a death threat! And this guy is a fucking lawyer! FailFish

Translation: "in the paths ahead, one path is a living path, the other path is one where you won't live. Which one do you want to choose, make your decision early. Good night."

https://www.facebook.com/RTHKVNEWS/v...2726308145516/

Live stream of some protesters blocking MTR trains in Admiralty.. Both my wife and her sister are stuck in traffic lol

Cops trying to reason with the guy, nothing physical so far. This is good police work so far, but they will probably have to arrest the guy.

I think the point they're trying to make is that the police are willing to show up for this, but they were nowhere to be seen in yuen long (well actually they were there, but left the scene)

He says Chu Hoi Dik and his followers are responsible for the grave damaging.. lol..
Chu Hoi Dik and Junius got into a very heated argument on TV in the morning where Junius stormed off from the interview, then got verbally rekt'd by a RTHK staff member off camera

The latest news scandal about this Lawyer Ho is that his parents tombs have actually been occupying crown land illegally:

https://www.hk01.com/01%E5%81%B5%E6%...8D%83%E5%91%8E

From the news reporting that came about as a result, you get to know the approximate location of where the tombs are:

https://goo.gl/maps/L7QHWGdp3AiDH6Eg7

Indeed, the tombs are in the hills, and looks difficult to access due to the terrain and vegetation. Given the difficulty to access the tombs, it seems very likely that whoever vandalized the tombs must already be familiar with the area / the tombs / the cemetery.

For those that don't really get how remote/out of the way some of these village plots are, it's not like the big open cemeteries we have in Canada.

To get to my grandfather's tomb in HK, we drove down some highway, pulled over on the shoulder, climbed up the 20m embankment, and then had to follow a single file path 100 to 200 m into the woods.

are they gonna make a motion picture about this event starring Andy Lau?

Australia, Queensland Uni

That junius ho guy is insane... The problem with things escalating like this is you'll get radicals, on both sides, radicals who will have had enough and start attacking prominent figures on either side, Junius is just making himself out to be a bigger target with bs like that

Can anyone on the pro-Beijing side be considered anything other than a radical? There are no legitimate arguments for any sort of law changes or integration, until starting in 2047

everything that possibly will happen on Saturday in Yuen Long will be because of him. I feel like this guy has lost the support of the triads, the villages he represents and possibly within the government.

To happyslip, im current still alive in China lol

Also China is always watching rs lol

Radicals are people that advocate violence and extreme measure to achieve their purpose.

You can support either side without being a radical.

Freedom of speech and democracy means anybody should be able to voice their own opinions and have their own political belief.


FailFish
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Junius Ho, Regina Ip and Ann Chiang are trying to get as much spotlight as possible in order to gain fame and support from the radical pro-china group for the upcoming November elections. For those who don't know who they are, Wikipedia and youtube pretty much sum up all the crazy shit they've said and done over the years.

junius Ho has reached an all-time low when it comes to starting drama. A clip has emerged with a conversation between two YL triad gangs saying Ho hasn't paid for their services yet and if he doesn't get the money soon, his "crazy guys" will do something soon (implying ruining his parent's tomb). LiHKG members are fact-checking this audio clip.

Clip in spoiler for those who understand cantonese.

Correct you are ... there are radicals on both sides.

Labelling everyone who holds an opposing view of an argument as 'radical' deserves a fail ... c'mon that's going to really help the process. :rukidding:

Right now, both sides need to call a time out and cool the eff down.

I think what skinny is getting at... is that there is no other side. China isn't supposed to interfere until 2047. That was the agreement. It's not a debate or like there's 2 sides to this that you can moderately be a part of.

You can't be against the law unless you're a radical.

signing an extradition policy with another government (governments in this case) isn't exactly interfering though

This thread is priceless. Both sides wearing tin foil hats accusing each other of the same thing. Everything is down to interpretation and hearsay. Nothing's ever based on facts because there's always a hidden force behind everything. :lol

i heard the whole clip and saw the whatsapp on junius Ho about "not paying."

1) would love to see if it's real; who's to validate, can police get a warrant such evidence
2) can it be used as evidence to even justify a case
3) is it even valid to be upheld in the court / justice system
4) would there be charges laid
5) can he be convicted

If #1 is valid, (proven it was him), even if we can't get all 1-5 down, his reputation would go down the drain. I can't ever see it happening though.

money talks. I'm guessing Apple Daily will be trying their best to get one of the triad members to rat him out.

So we just ignore the fact China installs figureheads in HK's governmental and justice systems to make sure everything they do passes over and that HK is doing what they want it to do long before its actually supposed to be that way?

FWIW China is attempting to do this in many countries, not just HK... think Australia, USA, Canada... even right here in Richmond. It was hardly anything but obvious to those who cared to even look casually at the situation that mayoral candidate Hong Guo in Richmond's last election was a poorly disguised PRC plant being funded from abroad. Was she heartily rebuked in that election? Yes... but China will only learn from these experiences and try again.

It's high time democratic countries stopped getting blinded by China's money and started limiting the visa and travel opportunities of its constituents in my opinion. Their goverment is not an ally of any free-thinking society or country, yet because of their monetary influence in western society we allow their citizens almost unparalleled levels of free movement that goes largely unchecked.

The Yuen Long incident has overshadowed another act of police brutality and obvious breaching of police protocol -- while the Yuen Long incidents were happening, protesters were also protesting outside the de facto CCP office in Sai Wan. The CCP logo on the building was defaced. In the ensuring police crackdown to clear the area, HKPD has again fired rubber bullets (and possibly bag shots) on the protesters without warning, and while aiming for the head (as opposed to the torso and limbs) with these "non-lethal" uses of force. News reports from this incident is difficult to come by, and unofficial channels have said that at least some protesters have been badly injuried, and is in critical condition at the hospital after the police shooting.

Personally, I question the authenticity of these clips that have been circulating. I've listened to a couple different ones, and they all follow the format of a monolog recording instead of a proper 2-sided conversation. Why would anyone pass a message along like that? On the other hand, the tone and language used in the voice clips -- esp the one from a middle age woman -- seems very natural and appropriate for someone in that kind of position (ie. having involvement in the local village / triad affairs). So I am not sure how to judge at least some of them.

Richmond .... why just stop at one burb, why not try to influence all of BC mayors & municipalities?

Union of BC municipalies (UBCM) said, Yes, we'll take China's money, thanks.
https://theprovince.com/news/bc-poli...-at-convention