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SkinnyPupp 08-12-2019 02:38 AM

People walking home from the airport. I can't even


Tim Budong 08-12-2019 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8956428)
There's no way that should not be considered. Wouldn't a government want their own police force to be accountable?

and have beijing and the CCP lose face?

doubt it

SkinnyPupp 08-12-2019 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Budong (Post 8956430)
and have beijing and the CCP lose face?

doubt it

Oh that's a totally legitimate reason, what was I thinking!

SkinnyPupp 08-12-2019 07:36 AM

I'll just say one more thing for today... Today I've noticed a lot more people having a say, or taking action in HK. Friends, family, people on IG, these people have kept their politics to themselves, until now. I think last night may have been a turning point in a way. Carrie Lam says that the protesters "have no stake in society". She is basically calling them useless jobless bums. But these people are the future of HK. And behind them stand a lot of professionals - doctors, lawyers, bankers, civil servants. EVERYONE who is not brainwashed wants the government to resolve this by answering to the reasonable demands.

It's crazy that I'm seeing people chime in who I never thought would. This really is getting bigger every week. It's not just the fringe people, it's not "students wasting their summer vacation". It's not "cockroaches" it's not people who "have no stake in society". It's everyone who isn't brainwashed or completely stupid.

BTW I saw the video of that girl who got her eyeball shot out... Do NOT go looking for it. China newspapers are saying she was attacked by a protester. I swear, the stories they come up with are so fictional, they seem more fake than The Onion.

Mr.HappySilp 08-12-2019 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8956415)
https://twitter.com/dakkikong/status...00114786443264

More people than ever are showing up at the airport, in response to last night's violence by the police. Many are wearing eye patches, in honor of the young medic who (allegedly) will lose vision in that eye when a police office shot her with a beanbag round (edit: Confirmed ruptured right eye)

There's been word that they've started targeting medics, so protesters don't have any support in case of injury. Countries at war don't even do this.

https://i.imgur.com/2UzDYxY.png

Target medics.... ok so if that's the case can all doctors, nurse, ER refuse service to all the police and their relatives then? I mean why should they help you if your intention is to target them and injury them?

yray 08-12-2019 08:21 AM

If the same thing happened in china, the terminal bridges would've collapsed

https://i.imgur.com/wbyqVyx.jpg

hi-revs 08-12-2019 01:03 PM

I haven't been following this news too much, but dont these protesters have work? Is HK pretty much shut down due to the protest? Are regular civilians safe on HK streets?

Anyone care to fill me in?
TIA

Infiniti 08-12-2019 01:45 PM

PAP is ready to roll in if HKPF doesn't get a better grip on things.

gilly 08-12-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8956468)
PAP is ready to roll in if HKPF doesn't get a better grip on things.

They ready. Border of HK in Shenzhen



keifun 08-12-2019 01:59 PM

I will be heading to HK end of this month. Sigh.

Are there any other media sources other than the local news of when/where they protests happen? or do they just spontaneously appear on the streets?

Would like to know ahead of time so I can avoid it the sooner the better.

asian_XL 08-12-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keifun (Post 8956476)
I will be heading to HK end of this month. Sigh.

Are there any other media sources other than the local news of when/where they protests happen? or do they just spontaneously appear on the streets?

Would like to know ahead of time so I can avoid it the sooner the better.

You should be safe most of the day time. Protestors wear black and they are likely harmless. It is wise to stay home at night, if you are out there, make sure you keep your eyes or ears around, make sure no one is walking near you.

twitchyzero 08-12-2019 05:30 PM

hkg reopened

StylinRed 08-12-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gilly (Post 8956472)
They ready. Border of HK in Shenzhen


https://twitter.com/AlexandreKrausz/...47525442056193

https://au.news.yahoo.com/hong-kong-...032334351.html

APCs too... China says its just a drill... So maybe, hopefully, just a scare tactic

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8956511)
https://au.news.yahoo.com/hong-kong-...032334351.html

APCs too... China says its just a drill... So maybe, hopefully, just a scare tactic

Same thing happened during 2014... I actually saw some APCs myself. It was weird but I don't think it means anything necessarily.

However they have started calling HKers "terrorists" and have been dehumanizing them from the start. They are acting more and more like they'll treat HKers the same way they treat Uyghurs. Not flat out military intervention, but slowly and methodically pick them out of the population, and send them to camps to be never heard from ever again.

I think many protesters see no future for themselves in HK anyway, and are more than willing to give whatever they have to the cause, even if it's a futile effort.

StylinRed 08-13-2019 02:34 AM

Oh they've done it before? Weird, but I guess that's a good thing

HK airport cancels flights again today

twdm 08-13-2019 05:47 AM

UN human rights council releases statement saying Hong Kong Police using non-lethal weapons in a prohibited fashion against Hong Kong protesters. Yep still no need for independent investigation and police will still say they did nothing wrong.

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/...24888&LangID=E

Quote:

Spokesperson for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights: Rupert Colville
Location: Geneva
Date: 13 August 2019
Subject: Hong Kong, China

The High Commissioner is concerned by the ongoing events in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (Hong Kong SAR) and the escalation of violence that has taken place in recent days.
The High Commissioner condemns any form of violence or destruction of property and urges everyone participating in the demonstrations to express their views in a peaceful way. She notes the Chief Executive’s commitment to “engage as widely as possible” and to “listen to the grievances of the people of Hong Kong.” She calls on the authorities and the people of Hong Kong to engage in an open and inclusive dialogue aimed at resolving all issues peacefully. This is the only sure way to achieve long-term political stability and public security by creating channels for people to participate in public affairs and decisions affecting their lives.
The rights of freedom of expression and peaceful assembly and the right to participate in public affairs are expressly recognized in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, as well as the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which is incorporated in the Basic Law of the Hong Kong SAR.

The UN Human Rights Office has reviewed credible evidence of law enforcement officials employing less-lethal weapons in ways that are prohibited by international norms and standards. For example, officials can be seen firing tear gas canisters into crowded, enclosed areas and directly at individual protesters on multiple occasions, creating a considerable risk of death or serious injury. The Office would urge the Hong Kong SAR authorities to investigate these incidents immediately, to ensure security personnel comply with the rules of engagement, and where necessary, amend the rules of engagement for law enforcement officials in response to protests where these may not conform with international standards.

The Office urges the Hong Kong SAR authorities to act with restraint, to ensure that the right of those who are expressing their views peacefully are respected and protected, while ensuring that the response by law enforcement officials to any violence that may take place is proportionate and in conformity with international standards on the use of force, including the principles of necessity and proportionality.

Mr.HappySilp 08-13-2019 07:43 AM

^^ well yea just all talks and nothing will be done. China will just come out and say this is their country and not outside force/nation should interfere and saying the UN should mind their own business.

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8956546)
^^ well yea just all talks and nothing will be done. China will just come out and say this is their country and not outside force/nation should interfere and saying the UN should mind their own business.

It's a bit more complicated than that, considering they are a founding member of the UN. They agree to adhere to these standards, and if they don't, I imagine they could get kicked out. This is probably a big step in the international community stepping up, something the UN didn't do in 1989

I'm not expert but that's how it looks to me

yray 08-13-2019 08:05 AM

they tied a main-lander to a luggage trolley

ROFL

https://www.reddit.com/live/133sixros7tu5

shits gonna get out of hand

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 08:21 AM

If you want to know why it was a HORRIBLE tactic for the police to dress as protesters... Well here you go.

And to the morons who physically assaulted the guy... Yeah you might have just fucked over all of Hong Kong

Like I said, I think Sunday night was a turning point

inv4zn 08-13-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8956551)
It's a bit more complicated than that, considering they are a founding member of the UN. They agree to adhere to these standards, and if they don't, I imagine they could get kicked out. This is probably a big step in the international community stepping up, something the UN didn't do in 1989

I'm not expert but that's how it looks to me

There's inherent distrust in the UN...and for good reason.

When Saudi Arabia is on your Human Rights council it kind of detracts from your authority.

Although considering how China is alllll about not losing face, maybe this will do something, I donno.

6793026 08-13-2019 08:40 AM

I'm no expert either; when is it necessary to have an independent investigation into violations?
Serious incidents involving police officers that's for sure, of course we are aware of ICAC.
Don't all the HK police have to report and get investigated by Hong Kong Disciplined Services ?

I think to use a blanket term to say Police attempt to kill HK citizens are just way to far fetched. (811)

Did police offices use too much force at times? (regardless of which clip of youtube you watch) Hell yeah, it goes for anywhere from US to HK.
Did some of the protestors go overboard. Yup. 90% were peaceful and the last 10% remained to be on scene even when black flags were raised notifying tear gas is being deployed.

What I found interesting was tear gas in MTR. Not going to address the bullshit on "people could die cause MTR is a confined space when you deploy tear gas" blah blah blah.

How do police disperse rioters when they all run down into MTR these days? I gotta say the cops did go trigger happy esp when it came to the paintball guns.

Tim Budong 08-13-2019 08:41 AM

that guy tied down is a CCP journalist with the Global Times.. or.. state run propaganda...
From the protestor's scrum just now, he was taking pictures of people, so the crowd asked for press pass, none, he tried to run, then said he was tourist, but found his passport etc..

They beat his ass... i do not agree thatholding the airport hostage is a good idea.

this cop, good for him, could have gotten very ugly if he fired his gun, even tho yes he was rushed


SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 08:47 AM

That was a close call man

This could all end tomorrow... None of the demands are outlandish at all. "saving face" is not a good reason whatsoever. They are losing face every minute, every single thing the govt and police done have been ushering people to be more angry and violent. So don't be surprised when you see people do that shit.

This cop didn't start beating the shit out of the woman, but they've seen that enough times that they felt they had to rescue her.

The cop broke out of his formation to go after someone... These cops have no idea what they are doing. It's a miracle he didn't kill someone

Mr.HappySilp 08-13-2019 09:05 AM

^^ from the reddit post people find some uniform or some T-shirt that the police use and also they try to search his name up and the China police website and his name and face was shown (the page is taken down now) so this person pretend to be the press is actually a police in China? Not sure since things got so confused.


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