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threezero 08-13-2019 09:06 AM

Woke up today and saw almost every single one of my wechat public account posting an article on Hong Kong. None of these accounts ever reports the news (mainly shopping shit).

More recirculating of the same article on my wechat groups.

PRC is getting ready to roll in the army. At this point, they have done all their groundwork in their media and gathering support from their people.

Mainlander are on mob mode right now toward Hong Kong protestors. People cheering every injury inflicted on the protestor/non-protestors.

Honestly if Tiananmen 2.0 unfolds live, majority of the mainlander would be cheering for CCP.

Sorry to shatter hongers' dream of starting similar civil unrest in China,

yray 08-13-2019 09:12 AM

well hong kong hasn't even pulled the curfew card yet, if the hong kong police really wanted to clamp down on the riots I am pretty sure they are more than capable

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8956568)
^^ from the reddit post people find some uniform or some T-shirt that the police use and also they try to search his name up and the China police website and his name and face was shown (the page is taken down now) so this person pretend to be the press is actually a police in China? Not sure since things got so confused.

He had the same shirt that the thugs worse in the Tsuen Wan attack (blue shirt with I love HKPD on it)

He also had an HKPD officer's namecard.

He had no press credentials, and claimed to be a tourist. But it turns out he is from Global Times, which is basically The Onion, but people think it's real in China.

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8956569)
Woke up today and saw almost every single one of my wechat public account posting an article on Hong Kong. None of these accounts ever reports the news (mainly shopping shit).

More recirculating of the same article on my wechat groups.

PRC is getting ready to roll in the army. At this point, they have done all their groundwork in their media and gathering support from their people.

Mainlander are on mob mode right now toward Hong Kong protestors. People cheering every injury inflicted on the protestor/non-protestors.

Honestly if Tiananmen 2.0 unfolds live, majority of the mainlander would be cheering for CCP.

Sorry to shatter hongers' dream of starting similar civil unrest in China,

Not everyone in China is a brainwashed moron, don't worry

Badhobz 08-13-2019 09:36 AM

This whole thing is over, and most likely open the door for further CCP controls to ensure that something like this will not happen again. totally backfired

Manic! 08-13-2019 09:37 AM

https://pics.me.me/thumb_police-shot...0-61365309.png

threezero 08-13-2019 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8956573)
Not everyone in China is a brainwashed moron, don't worry

you are right not everyone but a good 90% is buying the narrative and these voices are the loudest and most influentials.

Just like not everyone supports the protest in Hong Kong, but the protester's voices are the loudest and most influential right now.

Unfortunately, the difference is the mainlander sentiment is actively controlled and back by one of the most powerful armies/regime in the world.

Nlkko 08-13-2019 09:53 AM

Is that the actual chick that got shot? I wouldn't show up again to get the remaining eye blinded.

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nlkko (Post 8956579)
Is that the actual chick that got shot? I wouldn't show up again to get the remaining eye blinded.

No I think she might be from the medical professionals' rally at Tuen Mun hospital today.

https://i.imgur.com/1WsgyZI.jpg

A lot of protesters are wearing eye patches after a cop shot that girl's eyeball out

pastarocket 08-13-2019 10:17 AM

Props to the protesters! Doing whatever it takes to stop the Chinese government propaganda machine! :thumbsup:

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/h...hnk/index.html

Protesters detain reporter for Chinese state-run tabloid


A man who was detained by protesters and zip-tied to a luggage cart has been identified as a mainland Chinese reporter for state-run tabloid newspaper Global Times, according to the editor-in-chief of the outlet.


“Fu Guohao, reporter of GT website is being seized by demonstrators at HK airport. I affirm this man being tied in this video is the reporter himself. He has no other task except for reporting. I sincerely ask the demonstrators to release him,” Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of Chinese and English editions of the Global Times, tweeted.

Hong Kong TV channel iCable, a CNN affiliate, reported that the man was wearing a yellow high visibility vest and that protesters were demanding to see his press ID, while shouting "gangster" at him.

According to local reports, protesters pinned him to the ground, seized his belongings and draped an "I love HK Police" T-shirt over him, as others tried to step in and stop the violence

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keifun (Post 8956476)
I will be heading to HK end of this month. Sigh.

Are there any other media sources other than the local news of when/where they protests happen? or do they just spontaneously appear on the streets?

Would like to know ahead of time so I can avoid it the sooner the better.

Seriously don't go

bcedhk 08-13-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8956585)
Props to the protesters! Doing whatever it takes to stop the Chinese government propaganda machine! :thumbsup:

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/h...hnk/index.html

Protesters detain reporter for Chinese state-run tabloid


A man who was detained by protesters and zip-tied to a luggage cart has been identified as a mainland Chinese reporter for state-run tabloid newspaper Global Times, according to the editor-in-chief of the outlet.

“Fu Guohao, reporter of GT website is being seized by demonstrators at HK airport. I affirm this man being tied in this video is the reporter himself. He has no other task except for reporting. I sincerely ask the demonstrators to release him,” Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of Chinese and English editions of the Global Times, tweeted.

Hong Kong TV channel iCable, a CNN affiliate, reported that the man was wearing a yellow high visibility vest and that protesters were demanding to see his press ID, while shouting "gangster" at him.

According to local reports, protesters pinned him to the ground, seized his belongings and draped an "I love HK Police" T-shirt over him, as others tried to step in and stop the violence


I would say otherwise. what they did pretty much damaged the reputation of the peaceful protests that happened at the airport.

The pro-gov/china media will squeeze the most out of this situation and point more towards the violence these protestors are causing.

What they should have done is , point him out from the crowd, then just tell him to leave or leave him alone. That said, from watching the RTHK video, you can tell the crowd has a lot of "gu wak jai" aka. gangsters mixed in wanting to stir shit up.

threezero 08-13-2019 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8956585)
Props to the protesters! Doing whatever it takes to stop the Chinese government propaganda machine! :thumbsup:

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/h...hnk/index.html

Protesters detain reporter for Chinese state-run tabloid


A man who was detained by protesters and zip-tied to a luggage cart has been identified as a mainland Chinese reporter for state-run tabloid newspaper Global Times, according to the editor-in-chief of the outlet.


“Fu Guohao, reporter of GT website is being seized by demonstrators at HK airport. I affirm this man being tied in this video is the reporter himself. He has no other task except for reporting. I sincerely ask the demonstrators to release him,” Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of Chinese and English editions of the Global Times, tweeted.

Hong Kong TV channel iCable, a CNN affiliate, reported that the man was wearing a yellow high visibility vest and that protesters were demanding to see his press ID, while shouting "gangster" at him.

According to local reports, protesters pinned him to the ground, seized his belongings and draped an "I love HK Police" T-shirt over him, as others tried to step in and stop the violence

FailFish I cannot believe people thought tieing up the reporter was a good move to stop the Propanda machine.

Is this a one side battle with no consideration for enemy intelligence? Is everybody just blindly doing whatever they feel is right without even checking in on the consquence. Just because the protestor turn off their mainland news and stop reading what is going on the other side of the border, it doesn't mean the propganda has stop.

The chinese media has pick this up to spin even greater propganda now. Media and the people is egging the government to "wash hong kong with blood"


If you are trying to stop the propganda at least check to see what the result is.

Protesters: Let tie up this reporter so they can't spin more propganda.
Also protesters: If I dont read the propganda it doesn't exist therefore our tactic of stopping the propganda is working

FailFish

Traum 08-13-2019 10:38 AM

Just going to share 2 insightful stories here from a front line Caucasian reporter in Hong Kong:

From Aug 11:

Quote:

I was very close to the girl before she got shot in the face.
It was near the junction of Nathan and Austin Road, by the bus stops. The whole area was full of medics and people in bright yellow clothes, indicating they were not protesters and keeping clear of the main fray at the police gate. Pretty much all the protesters were much further south, down Nathan Rd.

About 5 minutes before she was shot, I literally saw and heard a white projectile fly past my face. This was not a CS canister as it made a swish sound, and it didn’t make any noise against the shop front like canisters do. I was dressed clearly in yellow and orange. I turned to face the back end of the police station and could just make out a darkened balcony, with about 3 figures on it. Prior to that, you wouldn’t even know there was a balcony there in the night time.

There was no doubt in my mind, they tried to headshot me and missed. There was no one else within metres of me. Definitely not any black clad protesters. I crouched down behind the wall, and behind one of the large Banyans.

About 5 minutes later, the girl was shot 15 metres from me.
There isn’t a single doubt in my mind that who ever was shooting could see they were firing at people who were clearly visible as medics or media.
From only an hour ago:

Quote:

Sooooooo, the Airport turned out kinda crazy for me tonight. Had been live tweeting the discovery of the Chinese cop since it first happened.

After about an hour of him being quizzed, they tried to move him. It seemed that they would exit him via a human passageway. I was right at the front of the passageway ready to film it. It quickly became apparent that it wasn’t a passage way out but a gauntlet for a mass beating. The guy was already beaten up. Now the crowd began to punch and kick him.

Other media looked on and filmed. But I’m just not this kind of person, and I had to protect him, with my own body for nearly 40 mins.

Pretty intense.

Now...

I support escalation. I vividly understand how angry Hong Kongers are. I know I shouldn’t get actively involved. I also know that he was a Chinese cop, dressed as a protester, caught with sticks, and so had evil intentions towards HK.

But on a human level I could not stand by, or even walk away from a man being beaten to a pulp.

So yeah it was a rough ride.

The angry protesters respected what I was doing, and never intentionally hit me, not once. But, I got a few accidental knocks.

-

I’m sorry this happened.

I dunno what the outcome should’ve been. I don’t even know if my protecting him with my own body was the right thing to do.
-
This isn’t a war. It’s a revolution, we’re fighting a system, not individuals.
I think many protesters acted really badly tonight.

But, I also blame the HK police too. Their actions on Sunday, when they dressed up as protesters and then started beating and arresting people changed everything. Everyone is on a hair trigger now and riddled with paranoia and anger.

I said on Sunday, after this despicable tactic, any cop or agent provocateur caught by the protesters would be in life threatening danger.
Well, I was proven right tonight, and also got a proxy beating for it. 🤣

Anyway, I’m all fine. A few scratches and bruises over my body and face.
HK is very much broken. Only the government can stop this.

In the meantime, get out and protest whenever you can. Every little will help in the long run.

Footnote:I don’t believe the people trying to hurt the cop were other cops or agent provocateurs. I believe they were really angry protesters. Why do I think this? Bcus I would’ve been beaten much more if that was the case. The protesters never deliberately hit me, no matter how much I tried to stop them.
I found the 2nd post to be esp insightful. Esp with the bolded part, while I don't believe any cop or agent provocateur caught by the protesters would be in life threatening danger, I can assure you they will get a good hard beating. From that point on, the HKSAR gov / CCP will use it as the perfect excuse to pull a hard crackdown in whatever form it may take.

Mr.HappySilp 08-13-2019 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8956587)
Seriously don't go

Guess I should tell my parents not go in Sept then? Do you think things would have die down by then?

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8956590)
FailFish I cannot believe people thought tieing up the reporter was a good move to stop the Propanda machine.

Is this a one side battle with no consideration for enemy intelligence? Is everybody just blindly doing whatever they feel is right without even checking in on the consquence. Just because the protestor turn off their mainland news and stop reading what is going on the other side of the border, it doesn't mean the propganda has stop.

The chinese media has pick this up to spin even greater propganda now. Media and the people is egging the government to "wash hong kong with blood"


If you are trying to stop the propganda at least check to see what the result is.

Protesters: Let tie up this reporter so they can't spin more propganda.
Also protesters: If I dont read the propganda it doesn't exist therefore our tactic of stopping the propganda is working

FailFish

That's not why they subdued him. People have been disguised as protesters and press from the beginning, attacking, identifying, and arresting them. I am NOT saying that beating him up was right BTW. His press credentials were bullshit or non existant, he identified himself as a tourist rather than press. He had the same shirt on him that the triads have been wearing. They didn't want to risk it, so they subdued him. From there, since there are no leaders, things kind of went out of control.

Anyway, it doesn't matter what kind of fuel you give the propagandists in China. They make up whatever shit they want anyway, it doesn't matter if it's 10% true or 90% true. That is irrelevant.

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2019 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8956593)
Guess I should tell my parents not go in Sept then? Do you think things would have die down by then?

Who knows? the whole city could be up in flames by then. But if you have plans in the next few weeks I honestly think it's a bad idea to come. Airport seems fine at this moment, but only after a guy got arrested by public and beat up, a cop pulled a live gun on people to defend his life, and police have been shooting tear gas indoors at the MTR and airport, and housing estates. People have been arrested by simply walking around near the protest, including a former police officer who was detained for 48 hours while going on an evening stroll.

The way he describes it, there are no senior officers around, and it's just a bunch of junior officers not really knowing what to do. They are arguing with each other, yelling, punching and kicking holes in walls.. The police are in a state of chaos right now and can't be trusted (note I am not attaching maliciousness to that, it's just a fact)

SFU_wmc 08-13-2019 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Budong (Post 8956561)
this cop, good for him, could have gotten very ugly if he fired his gun, even tho yes he was rushed

https://twitter.com/Birdyword/status...99001414578177

I'm impressed. The public successfully saved another poor citizen from being arrested.

StylinRed 08-13-2019 12:16 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49330848

Cop was cornered and beaten in the airport, he had to draw his gun, they're so lucky the cop was restrained, anywhere else there'd be bodies on the ground


dachinesedude 08-13-2019 12:35 PM

where do these cops get their training from? multiple times over the past few months i've seen single cops getting mobbed, why would they put themselves in those situations?

Traum 08-13-2019 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dachinesedude (Post 8956613)
where do these cops get their training from? multiple times over the past few months i've seen single cops getting mobbed, why would they put themselves in those situations?

If it isn't obvious yet, the current crop of Hong Kong front line police primarily consists of poorly educated, poorly trained, and poorly disciplined goons. I am not at all surprised that they have forgotten their trainings, and let emotions take over when they are supposed to be executing a police operation in a coordinated and disciplined manner.

yray 08-13-2019 01:06 PM

you gotta realize that they are just part time beat cops

you wonder where were the airport police with the mp5s

Mr.HappySilp 08-13-2019 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8956614)
If it isn't obvious yet, the current crop of Hong Kong front line police primarily consists of poorly educated, poorly trained, and poorly disciplined goons. I am not at all surprised that they have forgotten their trainings, and let emotions take over when they are supposed to be executing a police operation in a coordinated and disciplined manner.

In case you haven't notice the requirements for HKPD have had their standards lowered and lowered each year because not enough people apply. I guess I would not enough people with moral applied so they have to get anyone they can.

trollface 08-13-2019 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8956568)
^^ from the reddit post people find some uniform or some T-shirt that the police use and also they try to search his name up and the China police website and his name and face was shown (the page is taken down now) so this person pretend to be the press is actually a police in China? Not sure since things got so confused.

Is this actually confirmed? It was literally a blurry pic of an excel spreadsheet.

trollface 08-13-2019 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 8955725)
Not trolling. Just funny cause he became famous as Mr. shotgun cop.
He is an officer and because of his ranking, he was allowed to have access to a shotgun. I can't imagine what would happen if he did fire any shots.
Of course, he's clearly aiming in this, what was before or after...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08...4863420630.jpg

Different perspective on the cop with shotgun.

https://www.facebook.com/Anti.OCLP92...2948337783738/
In this video, he was retreating.

We had a post on FB:
"OMG.. he's aiming with a real shotgun!!!!"
"What did you fucking expect? You want them to be using fake guns?"

Is it just me or does he have the wrong eye closed to aim that shotgun lol.


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